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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 03:32 PM
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I totally stink too, but dont black beauties have a dark chest or belly? I honestly dont know. I was having trouble telling if 6 week old joeys were WF or standard. CRAZY
-Amber Nicole Mama to 2 Mastiffs... Sonja & Angel and A Slave To Many... A loving wife to Chris ***Sprinkled With Sugar Paradise*** http://swsp.weebly.com
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 03:42 PM
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Yes, from those photos, I'd say without a doubt that he is.
He has such bold and thick markings on his face, arms and hands. Very stunning boy you have there!
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
[Re: HagridsHut]
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12/10/10 04:00 PM
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No. He is not a black beauty. His markings are not dark or distinct enough.
Sorry! He's a beautiful classic grey though!
People in general are not good at distinguishing. When you have a TRUE BB. There is not doubt in your mind.
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:01 PM
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He looks like a BB to me. He has some of the same markings my BB girl has...
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:13 PM
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Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders.
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
[Re: HagridsHut]
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12/10/10 04:13 PM
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Since I have always wondered about my 2 females, I will take pictures of them tonight and we can compare... maybe we will both learn something new about BB
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:22 PM
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His markings are very dark, but dont most BBs have very thick very dark markings around the eyes and down the forehead and almost like a strap from the ear to the eye? It looks like he could be but his markings arnt as thick as most ive seen. Maybe he has a small percentage of BB in him. All that matters is hes a handsome fella!!!
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:23 PM
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:26 PM
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That 3rd pic is the cutest!
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:29 PM
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On a side note, I also do not think that BB is a specific color like WF is. I think it is like light vs dark brown hair. That being said, I do think that two darker gliders will produce darker joeys and that two lighter ones will produce lighter joeys, but they are all still a type of gray
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:31 PM
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Yeah, she passed out
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 04:40 PM
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I have also had trouble with the distinguishing... and to make matters worse, I have a pair that facially LOOKS like BB... but the rest of the body is standard, so they aren't considered BB... and their joeys are the same as them: Adam Eve Duke (their last joey)
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 05:04 PM
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Wow thats crazy! They def look like BBs. There adorable! All of them! I want to get my boyfriend a BB some day as a gift. we have a standard grey now, and a wfb on the way. But he really wants a boy. Maybe ill get him a BB boy some day! There gorgeous!
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 05:12 PM
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On a side note, I also do not think that BB is a specific color like WF is. I think it is like light vs dark brown hair. That being said, I do think that two darker gliders will produce darker joeys and that two lighter ones will produce lighter joeys, but they are all still a type of gray Meghan- I actually agree with you 100%! However, the lineage database does distinguish between Classic Grey and Black Beauty, so I'm trying to be as accurate as possible when listing classifications. -Alicia
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 05:25 PM
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hun... I'm not sure. I want to say that he isn't... like mine... but I always have trouble too!
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 05:31 PM
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You can see loads of BB and Standard pics here - Color Variations - for comparison.
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 05:50 PM
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I think I'm going to take the easy way out and just classify him as a Classic Grey! I've looked at those photos FOREVER and am even more confused now than when I started! Oi!! This is maddening!! And, here I was hoping to be able to add a new little gremlin to my sig!! -Alicia
Andromeda, Malfoy, & Peeves; Arthur & Lily Severus Snape, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn, & Molly Weasley ... Glide free, my little angels! We will love and miss you FOREVER!
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 05:57 PM
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I wasn't sure what my joeys were until I went to a gathering and was told that mine are BB's. I have been told that BB's have a Grey underbelly, and that the stripe from the back goes to the nose and around the nose. With that being said and looking at the pictures, I don't think that he is a BB. Looks more like a darker colored standard Grey to me.
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 10:00 PM
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I would say he is a beautiful grey glider. I am under the impression that the characteristics for a BB are black knuckles, dark chin strap and a silver belly fur as opposed to creamy belly fur. I do have a BB but don't have her pix on this computer to show you right now.
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/10/10 11:54 PM
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I can't see his belly. BB has very thick mascara, thick stripes, pretty much every black marking emphasized. The black knuckles (greys have a hint, BB it's like a sharpie marker was drug across their hand) and the silvery belly is a dead giveaway. If you have a BB next to a grey, the distinction is obvious. Pictures don't always help since lighting and background vary so widely it can be very difficult to judge.
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Re: Is James a Black Beauty?!
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12/11/10 12:19 AM
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Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders. could you out some up here ?
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