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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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07/12/10 07:37 PM
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I believe that if there is not a female in the household, they may get along fine. I have sold twin males for pet-only to people who have no other gliders, and they have gotten along just fine as they grow. Also, with the rescue that I did last year, there was a cage with two intact males and a female... and they didn't have issues at my home (both neutered while in my care). I think it might be a personality thing, if you have two dominant males, or a more submissive male it makes a difference. Personally, as a breeder, I will never have intact males together other than twin joeys that leave together.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: wildlifeangel]
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07/12/10 09:28 PM
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I purchased my two un-neutered, and, to this date, they get along fine! They are two years old, and both really nice, and neither one seems to think he is the dominant one. If they ever fight, I do have another cage for temporary housing until they get neutered, but for now, they are fine.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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07/13/10 10:09 AM
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Jay & Silent Bob are both un-neutered (4 yrs old brothers). They get along pretty well actually. The only time I ever hear crabbing from them is when they are in their pouch...my guess is one is moving around, adjusting, etc and wakes the other one up. I have 2 pouches in their cage, but they've never slept apart. They share the same food bowl, water bottle, etc. Would I try and introduce 2 un-neutered males? Probably not. But J & B have been together since birth, will never be with a female (I took them in at 2 yrs old), and are very comfortable and happy with each other.
Last edited by buttercup; 07/13/10 09:48 PM. Reason: added glider ages
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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07/13/10 09:22 PM
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I am going to say no, I took in a rescue over a year ago. He was intact and had been living with his twin who was also an intact male. His twin had died and they brought him to me. He had over groomed his tail, his scent glands were huge and crusty. I am sure that his poor environment attributed to some of this.
I took him in and had him neutered two weeks later I noticed hair growing on his tail. I introduced him to another neutered male here in the house and they got along great. Sadly he crossed over the Rainbow bridge about a year later.
I would not house two unaltered males together.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: tlc_in_chitown]
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08/09/10 02:50 PM
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I had two intact male gliders that after fives years I still could not put together. One would always try to dominate the other. I wonder if only intact males who've grow together can get along.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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08/09/10 04:57 PM
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I had two brothers who were not neutered and they got along good for the first few months. Then the more dominant male started taking over the food, toys, wheel, etc. Had him neutered and they get along great now, with the more submissive male not neutered. I had a father and son who were both neutered. I had to separate them when the son was about a yr old because the dad would attack him, when the mom was in heat.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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12/10/10 02:45 PM
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we have four males all un-neutered none of them are twins or brothers and they all get along great! to boot they also have a female living amongst them and they all seem to be fine. I wondered if there was a alpha amongst them but they seem to be all socially on the same level
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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12/11/10 10:14 PM
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My friend has two intact males together. Not related in any way. They are her only gliders. They get along perfectly!
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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12/12/10 12:14 AM
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we have four males all un-neutered none of them are twins or brothers and they all get along great! to boot they also have a female living amongst them and they all seem to be fine. I wondered if there was a alpha amongst them but they seem to be all socially on the same level This is definitely NOT a good idea. I would neuter the males, or remove the female to prevent problems even though it seems you've been pretty lucky so far. This is not a chance I would ever consider taking. As Melissa noted, the breeding of this female alone is a huge problem. And I would hate that at any moment, they start fighting over the female. I couldn't imagine having to care for a glider like what is pictured above! That is so sad, and completely preventable!! My opinion is intact males can live together peacefully as long as there is no female with them. However, if they ever start to show dominance problems, I would have them neutered.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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12/12/10 01:35 PM
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Also read my note on having more than one intact male housed together when there is a female glider around here.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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12/12/10 01:52 PM
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I'd like to say that I agree with a few others on this point. The only way for two intact males to get along is if there is no female in the equation. Even then, brothers would be your best bet.
I would NOT suggest having two intact males anywhere near a female, and of course, there's always the exception that makes the rule. But please be careful. I've even known some intact male/neutered male/female trios that have gone wrong.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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12/12/10 03:35 PM
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This is kind of "on" topic but with a twist lol!
I have a 8 month old neutered male & a 4month old intact male that I will be doing intros with soon.
I was hoping that because one of them is neutered that everything will be fine & I will not need to go thru the expense & stress (mine) of neutering my new guy.
What are your thoughts/opinions?
Lisa
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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12/12/10 04:23 PM
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I think your best bet is to get the other male neutered as well. I wouldn't be worried if they were brothers and had been together their entire lives, but since they don't know each other, you might run into aggression issues with the intact male. Of course, you can always start the intro process (swapping pouches etc) and see how it goes, but getting the intact male neutered would be safer.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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12/17/10 02:47 PM
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My experience: Sugar & Nibbles (both males) are my first gliders, and they were rescues. They lived together for at least a year before they got to me intact, and they lived with me after they got here, intact, for at least another year. Never had a problem. Now when I did get them neutered, it wasn't until well after that, that I introduced my little girl Destiny into the picture. They are a happy trio. (Lisa: I would have your second guy neutered, and it will cut down on the marking and the smell immensely )
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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01/02/11 03:44 AM
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I brought in a rescue group of 11 gliders, 7 intact males and 4 females, all breeding age that all got along just fine. Because I never knew if they could have been related or not, the males were all neutered and they all found a home together (luckily!). Aside from this, I have had several males (all intact) live together with several females like a natural colony. Part of the success of this situation is due to the size of thier cage and availability of space to get away from one another I believe, but they always all slept together, ate together, and I've never had any issues what so ever. The down side to this, is that if there are joeys that come out of this group you'll never truly know who dad is (and sometimes mom I've heard, as one mom could have a joey and steal anothers and raise it as her own). So, from that perspective, multiple males in with females is not a good idea. But, multiple intact males as pets only works sometimes. I really believe it is a personality thing too. You may have a couple of boys that do fine together, and then you could have boys that get along for a while and then have issues, or ones that never get along. Better safe than sorry I'd say... neuter them.
Edit: I have heard of several people who have a neutered male in with a breeding pair that act as a 'nanny' to the joeys though. I personally don't see a problem with having a neutered male in with the breeding pair.
Last edited by StarlightGliders; 01/02/11 03:45 AM. Reason: Added *** line
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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01/02/11 07:58 AM
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I've had two males together with no problems - now I only have Kiki - Junior passed n I really don't want another glider - so Kiki will be my last
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
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01/24/11 10:44 AM
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As per this thread, it described two intact males (father and son) and a female in the same cage and the consequences . . . Can someone please answer this question for me: At what age should the male offspring be seperated from the father and mother so this type of behavior does not happen? I had read on this board that males reach sexual maturity at around 3-4 months OOP. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: JeremyandLexie]
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01/24/11 10:35 PM
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MJ111
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Thanks for the info I'm going to start a new thread because I have alot of other questions about seperating babies from their parents. Thanks again.
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Re: Intact males...can they get along?
[Re: sugarlope]
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01/25/11 04:20 PM
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I had a piar that had a boy joey then had a female joey. not long after the female joey came out of the pouch I had to seperate the babies from mom and dad. mom and dad were not letting the babies eat and they lost weight. but after I seperated them the babies were fine and gained the weight back.
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