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White Tip x Normal Pairing
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12/21/10 12:32 PM
12/21/10 12:32 PM
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Garry
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Advance Merry xmas guys..
Just wanna find out if theres anyone out there who done pairing a normal ( white tip x normal parents ) to a normal ( both normal parents ) and successfully produced a white tip joeys..? thanks..
Note: can anyone widely explain to me the white tip variation..? thank you very much.. good day.. =)
Last edited by Garry; 12/21/10 01:09 PM.
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Re: White Tip x Normal Pairing
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12/21/10 01:17 PM
12/21/10 01:17 PM
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Yes, I have gotten WT joeys from normal WT pairings and have gotten WT joeys from the normal joeys from the WT / normal pairings. WTs just kind of pop up when they feel like it around here. I have Rain ( WT grey ) with Summer ( WF 66% leu het )and they have had one WF/WT joey & two normals that have had WT joeys with normal mates. Saphirra ( WT grey ) with Emerald ( grey newly proven 100% leu het ) have had two tiny WT joeys and 3 normals. 1 of the normals has had a WT joey with a normal mate.
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Re: White Tip x Normal Pairing
[Re: tbull]
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12/21/10 01:44 PM
12/21/10 01:44 PM
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Garry
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Yes, I have gotten WT joeys from normal WT pairings and have gotten WT joeys from the normal joeys from the WT / normal pairings. WTs just kind of pop up when they feel like it around here. Thanks tbull!! thats an excellent answer that i needed.. =p so, by your experiences.. we can now prove that WT mutation can make HETS.. WT is also a Recessive color like leucistic, albino, and cremeno.. There for: (example) Leucistic + Normal = 100% Leu Het (always) Notes: This is breeding out, and a recommended pairing. Normal color offspring. we can now say that if i pair a WT x Normal.. the offpring of it will became 100% het WT RIGHT!?! =) on the other hand: (example) 100% Leu Het + 100% Leu Het = Leucistic (25% of the time) 100% Leu Het (50% of the time) Normal (25% of the time) Notes: Approximately 1 in 4 offspring will have the recessive color. 3 in 4 offspring will have the normal color. 2 in 3 of the normal color offspring will have the recessive color gene. These are sold as having a 66% chance of having the leu gene. This is not breeding out and is not a recommended pairing. there for, the said thing is.. i cant have a WT offspring with a 100% HET WT x Normal.. because i need 100% het WT x 100% het WT to produce a WT one.. right..? (25% chance) and the other chances of getting one is WT x Wt(100% chance) and WT x 100% het WT (50% chance)
Last edited by Garry; 12/21/10 02:01 PM.
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Re: White Tip x Normal Pairing
[Re: Laurens_Babies]
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12/21/10 02:29 PM
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Garry
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@Laurens_Babies, thanks for sharing ma`am.. Then they had triplets I got a WT (big one!) a WF/WT and a WF. Sadly none of these joeys lived to be able to see what they produced. Sorry for your loss.. =( You see what I'm saying? Its not a science like leu is. My theory is that the WT gene passes but not all the time. It doesn't have to be displayed to carry. The stronger the background yes the greater the chance is to carry but as far as WT compaired to WT het passing the gene.. WHO KNOWS? Now i get it.. so no one knows how it works, like its kinda just your luck or how strong the gene is passed.. so, pairing a het WT to a normal one will pop a WT too.. its just a matter of luck..? =? hehe.. thanks for the replies.. very appreciated..
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Re: White Tip x Normal Pairing
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12/21/10 02:35 PM
12/21/10 02:35 PM
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With white face or mosaic gliders, atleast one parent has to BE a wf or mosaic for the joeys to be wf or mosaic.
With leus, both parents much carry the gene (either leus or hets) in order to produce leu joeys. Two leu parents should produce nothing but leu offspring.
But neither of these rules seem to apply to wt gliders.
They say there is an exception to ever rule. Wt's seem to be that exception.
I had Everest (wt) with Addison. Both came from wt parents. They had only one joey, no wt. But that joey went on to have wt joeys of her own. (they had to be seperated when Addison was pregnant due to aggression from Everest)
I now have Everest with Sierra. Both wt's. They have had 1 wt joey, the rest were not. The one wt joey has had wt of his own. (Everest is now neutered)
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Re: White Tip x Normal Pairing
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12/22/10 10:31 AM
12/22/10 10:31 AM
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Garry
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Thanks for the replies guys.. helps me alot.. ;D BTW, i need your opinion here.. i have right now 2 females siblings came from a WT x Normal pairing.. i paired them to one of my normal males here to make a trio.. is it a good move to have a trio right now..? or do i need to stay with the normal pairing thingy..? thanks guys..
Last edited by Garry; 12/22/10 10:32 AM.
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Re: White Tip x Normal Pairing
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12/22/10 04:00 PM
12/22/10 04:00 PM
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Trios are very tricky. Either they will work or they won't. It is hard to predict. You will want to watch for any dominance issues such as them keeping one away from food or one sleeping by herself most of the time. And of course any fighting. Until they get to breeding age, you will not know if it is going to work or not.
I have had such bad luck with trios/quads that I didn't think I would ever even attempt it again but I now have a trio that is just AWESOME. In addition to the twin sisters and their mate, their neutered son also lives with them. The currently have three joeys oop, one single and one set of twins, and they all 4 take care of the joeys. I even caught the twin sisters sharing the feeding of the two little twins.
This seems to be unusual to have such a harmonious trio though. You have to remain prepared to seperate if necessary and be prepared for it not to work out. Many things CAN go wrong from baby stealing (where one female steals the joeys from the other), canabalizing and other similar problems.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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