So, we built the cage. Now, we are going to put a hole in the floor, run a PVC made tube from this cage down the floor, into the other cage on the bottom floor. That cage is 5 ft high. My plan is to have the two cage connected together, on two different floors. Here is a pic of the almost finished cage, which is almost 8 feet high. We are still putting some shelves in the cage, along with a mount so I can attach the stealth wheel to the pvc hardware. I'll post more pics as we finish this. This is my Christmas present from my family.
Meeko Pudge
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1043625 12/19/1011:35 PM12/19/1011:35 PM
My question to you is are you going to have 2 cages on two different floors so they can go from cage to cage? Like through the pipe?? I would be scared of that to be honest. I would feer something/someone would get stuck in the pvc pipe. (because of them passing things from one cage to another-I could be wrong)Are you going to put something on the inside to line the PVC so they can climb??? And then what if you NEED to get to them and they are in the Pipe!?!?
I think it is a good idea, and I am not tring to discurage you by any means, just trying to see your vision. And wondering if you have answers to some of the concerns that I would have. I just cant come up with anything...but I am not very good at building! lol
I will say...if you can make it work I will be SUPPER envious lol My fuzzies have an awesome cage, but yours would be kick but!!!
Please keep us updated...I cant wait to see this one pulled off!!! lol
Gliders can chew through the mesh. If they do get a hole through the mesh between the two cages you may have gliders running around inside the walls. You cannot observe them in the connecting tube or check it easily for damage caused by chewing.
They may also be able to pull any insulation that may be between the floor above and the ceiling below through the mesh.
Love the vision...I'm still trying to wrap my head around it though. The idea is really cool...but I, too, would be SO nervous about them chewing through it or getting stuck or...or...
I'm not overprotective by any means, but I DO worry because our monkeys are so incredibly smart. And even more so, incredibly persistent, as we all know. If my Bandit wants something, he's bound and determined to get it. If a glider decides he/she is in the tube and wants that "something" inside the walls that WE can't see....there's no telling what they would do to get at it.
Not trying to discourage your plan, crisis...just talking through all the "what-if's" to make sure your babies are always safe!
Gliders can chew through the mesh. If they do get a hole through the mesh between the two cages you may have gliders running around inside the walls. You cannot observe them in the connecting tube or check it easily for damage caused by chewing.
They may also be able to pull any insulation that may be between the floor above and the ceiling below through the mesh.
I agree with this. It just doesn't sound safe to me.
The cage in the bedroom looks plenty big enough for two gliders. I usually am all for "The bigger, the better!" but in this case I think I'd rather have my gliders on one floor and accessible to me.
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1044173 12/20/1010:47 PM12/20/1010:47 PM
I would try the pvc pipe with mesh lining. And maybe make it to where you can close off the holes somehow if need be. And so the pipe is able to be pulled out for cleaning and checking the mesh. That way also, if a glider decides to hang in there and you cant get them out, you can just pull the pipe out.
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Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1044208 12/21/1012:15 AM12/21/1012:15 AM
What about using a piece of 6inch diameter pvc pipe to go through the floor and then have a fleece vine that goes between the two cages they can climb up/down between cages? That way, IF you have to, you can stick your arm down through the pipe but with the vine, you can just pull up the vine and put a cap on the pipe if you want to seperate the two cages for short term.
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Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1044228 12/21/1012:39 AM12/21/1012:39 AM
Looks like a cool idea as long as you take the above safety precautions. I was going to suggest you get a dollar store type shower curtain to line the walls behind the cage to protect the walls. Gliders can be very messy! Think 2 yr. old!
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Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1044254 12/21/1002:18 AM12/21/1002:18 AM
Wow Teresa! I had some concerns with the original idea, but I think your idea with the larger pipe they cant escape & using the fleece vine solved most of them. The idea itself is like everything else we face with these little guys. It has it's pros & cons. I like the ambition as well though. Let us know what you decide.
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1044338 12/21/1010:24 AM12/21/1010:24 AM
It's a neat concept, but I wouldn't try it. I'd be too nervous the gliders would escape between in the wall, or that I couldn't get to them in an emergency. It would be less work, and much safer to just build two cages - carry the pouch down and put them into the other cage for awhile.
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Another thought - If you are upstairs and want to talk to your gliders, they may be in the down stairs cage. If you are down stairs, they may head up stairs.
I see a fun game for the gliders, and lots of exercise running up and down stairs for the two legged members of the family.
The cages are all done. Here are some pictures. I used landware netting and plastic gutter running from the top of the first cage, elbowed into the landware clothwith cable ties, more cable ties making the pipe, with another 2 riveted plastic gutters running up the ceiling.. (protected from all insulation), elbowed into the 8 ft cage.
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Meeko Pudge
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1044733 12/22/1012:55 AM12/22/1012:55 AM
Everyone... The wood is treated in the new cage. The gutters are all drilled together and tied with cable ties. The cable ties are all easily accessible in case of an emergency. The land ware cloth is also tied with cable ties which are also easily accessible if I need to get the gliders out. I made the tube with landware cloth so I am able to clean it. (spray it out, and poop will fall thru onto the floor) I did not want the pee sitting in the tube. Tre gutters are also easily cleanable as I can take them down and wash them, or power spray water down them to wash away any urine. My walls are also painted with washable paint. My home is also glider proof, as I even have landware cloth ladders in my toilets. Thanks so much for worrying about them! So, I woke up this morning and my gliders were in a different cage! LOL.... Not too sure if they have figured out how to go back, but they figured out how to get out of the cage upstairs to the one downstairs.
Meeko Pudge
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
[Re: crisis668]
#1044959 12/22/1005:23 PM12/22/1005:23 PM
Does the tall cage have a pan in the bottom that can be removed for cleaning? It appears that you would need to move the bed to get to the cage for cleaning.
The whole set up looks like a lot of work to clean - more than I would want to do on a weekly basis.
The cage on the 2nd floor has a door that opens. The cage floor has mesh hardware on the bottom, and linoleum flooring over that, as it only needs to be wiped out. There is no pullout tray. I clean all of my cages every day. (* I have other animals) Any fleece, I wash 1 x a week, but I wipe down all urine and food daily, as I think it is much easier to keep up with it on a daily basis, rather than a weekly basis concerning any animal, inside your house, or outside. I like my house clean, and leftover food particles laying around is yucko!
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Meeko Pudge
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1046957 12/27/1001:41 PM12/27/1001:41 PM
I Think its pretty awesome!!!! Nice job! I just completed my 6 1/2 foot PVC cage and my gliders LOVE it! It is also made with the hardware cloth and its been working great! They haven't chewed it at all, it wipes down quickly and easily and I also wipe it down every day. One question though.... Do you have to put their food in both cages? or Just in the cage that they happen to be in when you feed them... Just curious. My worry would be that if they went into the lower cage after you fed them upstairs, and couldn't remember how to get back up, went hungry at night time....
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Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1046959 12/27/1001:50 PM12/27/1001:50 PM
Cool! I just wasn't sure because he said that he wasn't sure if they knew how to get back up to the top room yet. I do hide treats and food all over my cage, I just wasn't sure if the scent of the food upstairs would be strong enough if they were in the cage downstairs
Sarah- Wife and Mother of 4 children, 1 dog, 1 turtle,1 gini pig, and 6 Sugar gliders; Posie, Snowflake, Icaras, Sweet Pea, Rascal, Dale
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
[Re: crisis668]
#1047004 12/27/1003:30 PM12/27/1003:30 PM
For a while I had two cages attached side by side.
The gliders had access to the smaller cage through the 4 feeder doors (secured open) on the larger cage.
I fed them in the small cage each night - and kept their pouches in the large cage.
They roamed back and forth between the cages. The best part was I only had to clean up the pan and wipe food off the bars in the small cage. The other cage pan had very little waste in it. If I had space in my glider room, I would attach a 'dining room' small bird cage to each of my flight cages for feeding. If the small cages had a removable grate and pan, it would definitely cut down the daily clean up.
crisis668, I think the idea is very neat, but I won't close an eye...ever.
I hear you. So far the two cages are working out well. I have been checking daily on any problems, but so far so good. I do only put food in one cage, where they spend the most time which is in the big cage. http://www.flickr.com/photos/meekopudge/5302753467/
Here is a video of the 2 cages and how it works.
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Meeko Pudge
Re: New cage = 7.6 FT tall
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#1047756 12/29/1010:12 AM12/29/1010:12 AM
Along with the video, here is a pic of one running through the tube. Meeko comes and finds me if I am not upstairs. Pudge has NOT come thru the tubes as of yet. He is very cautious glider, and I did not get him till he was a bit older. He is still unsure of things and does things on his own time.