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Petey - Complications from Torb #1106015
04/28/11 12:45 AM
04/28/11 12:45 AM
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Sedona, AZ
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Mary's Beloved Petey has crossed the Rainbow Bridge tonight cry cry cry
Petey meant the world to her and she is so heartbroken. He was bring treated for an anal infection and had a fatal reaction to the Torb. I just don't know what else to say right now as this is very upsetting. I just talked to Mary this afternoon about Petey. Please pray for Mary.
Glide Free now Little Petey gangel :rbridge: gangel

Last edited by sugarlope; 11/28/11 08:31 PM. Reason: changed title

Pat
You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown

Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106018
04/28/11 12:52 AM
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oh no!!! lit a candle for Petey, I feel terrible for her, I so know the pain of losing a glider your close to.


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: Cora] #1106019
04/28/11 12:57 AM
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Sedona, AZ
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Originally Posted By: Cora
oh no!!! lit a candle for Petey, I feel terrible for her, I so know the pain of losing a glider your close to.

Me too Cora and as much as I try to put it behind me it always comes back like a knife to the heart :O(
I feel so bad for her as she is so upset and I am a zillion miles away and can only offer my sympathy. So very heartbreaking....
Everyone love on your babies!!!


Pat
You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown

Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106020
04/28/11 01:03 AM
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RIP little Petey! You were no doubt loved loved loved!!!

Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106035
04/28/11 01:21 AM
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Glide free little one...

I am moving this to Rainbow Memorials now.


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106062
04/28/11 04:00 AM
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I am so sorry Mary hug2


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: JillMarie] #1106070
04/28/11 05:36 AM
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I am so sorry. Sending Hugs your way Mary...... hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2

Glider Free Petey!!


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106071
04/28/11 05:49 AM
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Prayers for Mary n Petey - RIP little one

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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106083
04/28/11 06:27 AM
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Wisconsin
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Mary,

I am so sorry to hear that your beloved little Petey crossed over the Rainbow Bridge. May you find comfort in your memories of him.

Glide Free Little Petey :rbridge:


Kimberley
Feathers-Sweetie, Sklyar Blue, Mister Peanut, Big Mack & Ibo
Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Micheal, Stevie, Cho & Maharet :bb: T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon :wfb: TY, TJ, Khayman & T'Pring :rtmo: O'Ryan :leu:
Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker and the rest of my babies over the :rbridge:

Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106087
04/28/11 06:48 AM
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Rainbow Bridge has welcomed two very special gliders - Even as the sun sets here on earth,
two new little stars rise in heaven ... in good company as I lost my precious little Tinky
last week


:grey: We will be known forever by the tracks we leave :grey:
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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106097
04/28/11 07:43 AM
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Mary I am very sorry for your loss of Petey. He was a very special little guy and remember you did everythinhg you could for him.
You know I am here if you need anything.

Many ((((Hugs)))


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: BCChins] #1106099
04/28/11 08:02 AM
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Thank you, Pat for posting for me and thank you for the kind words to everyone. Petey was a broken glider when he came to me on April 5, 2007. He had five homes, had been physically abused and was terrifed of everything. I was still very new to gliders when I took him in, but I knew his aggressive behaviour (he gave the girl I got him from 27 stitches) was out of fear.

I was so proud of him at the vets yesterday, he did not even crab. Even when I was holding him up spread eagle for an ultrasound to make sure his bladder and everything looked ok.

This is part of a video memorial a friend made for me when Roo, Petey's cage mate and love of his life, passed (Nov.5, 2008, from an inoperable kidney stone. They only got just over a year together, but they loved a lifetime's worth and Roo helped Petey to become more confident.) It is only a small part of it (the original is on my old hard drive, which I need to get everything off.) But Petey is in a few pics. The only peace I have is they are reunited again.

I will be having a full necropsy done. I want to know (if possible) what happened. I know it is possible he had a reaction to the torb. I just know within a minute of him taking it, things were not right, and got worse as time went on.

Pat is right....love your babies, you just never know. I was telling a friend yesterday when I brought Petey into my family, I made him a promise this would be his last home, that I would never rehome him and he would die here. Little did I know it would be last night.

I fly you my little Petey Pooper.....you stole mommies heart from the second I met you and you took a huge piece with you. Be good, kiss Roo for me and I will see you again one day. You will never hurt or fear again my sweet angel.

Btw, my avatar pic is Petey. He won pic of the week with that pic...I named it 'Bless Me', as it looks like he is praying. This is how I will always remember him.

http://www.dropshots.com/pappy1264#date/2008-11-13/17:03:02

Last edited by pappy1264; 04/28/11 08:04 AM.

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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106101
04/28/11 08:14 AM
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Mary, I am so very sorry to hear about Petey. He was very lucky to have had you in his life to show him what it ment to be loved and cherished.


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AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties

:rbridge: My Angels: You are always in my heart.

You've flown to the rainbow
and wait there for me
Someday I will join you
together to be


Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106102
04/28/11 08:20 AM
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No!!! cry I am so sorry to hear this! Mary, my heart goes out to you!

Glide free, sweet, precious Petey :rbridge: over the Rainbow Bridge. You will always be remembered, loved and very missed.


Connie

812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues

SmallWorldSuggies

"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward"

"Glide free :rbridge: Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: suggiemom1980] #1106104
04/28/11 08:34 AM
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As Ozzi said, it's so hard being so far away and not able to reach out and hold you tight Mary. My heart is breaking for you. cry My prayers are there with you now and always.

Glide Free Precious Baby, you will always be in our hearts. :rbridge:

Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106108
04/28/11 08:48 AM
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So sorry for your loss Mary. Godspeed little Petey. Glide free


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106112
04/28/11 08:56 AM
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Mary...I don't have the right words to convey to you how very sorry I am for your loss. What you did for Petey - your love and your devotion - showed him what it was to have a good and happy life. Glide free little Petey - and know you were loved in a million ways.

Thinking of you...

Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106131
04/28/11 09:27 AM
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Oh Mary, such sad news frown....Petey knew how very much you loved and adored him....I am so so very sorry for this massive loss, but rest assured he is with Roo right now, happy and healthy and spending time with the love of his life....Petey, Charlie, and you are in my prayers...Glide Free little Petey!


Jess

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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106135
04/28/11 09:38 AM
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Mary, I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
Glide Free little Petey :rbridge:



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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: glidermom71] #1106156
04/28/11 10:57 AM
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Thank you to everyone. What I am about to write
is killing me to say. I had to take Petey yesterday to my regular dog vet. He has seen gliders before, including mine. My reg. glider vet was out for personal reasons until Saturday. I had called there first. When I went to the vet, I told him Petey had had torb. I have heard the phrase 'make sure to get torb for pain' so many times. I had always thought Torb, Butorphanol and Buprenex were all the same drug, I had never questioned it. All these years. So, I told him 'yup, Petey had had torb.' He didn't, it was Buprenex, which is a completely different drug, less sedating. That being said, Torb is a drug used with gliders....but in some cases it can cause a deadly drop in blood pressure and this is most likely what caused Petey to pass, based on how it happened. Dosage for torb was correct, but he had never had it, I was mistaken. He had a reaction to it. Saddest part of it, is there is a drug that counteracts the torb and supportive care is administered as well (fluids, even meds to help blood pressure increase, although usually the counteractive drug is all that is needed with fluids). I saw within a minute Petey was reacting 'different' but I put it off to him just feeling odd, maybe hallucinating a little, which can happen on any of these meds. But he had ever reacted that way, and certainly not that fast. The vets was open for one more hour when I gave him that drug. I didn't know he was having a bad reaction....I thought he had had it three other times. I messed up and my actions in the very least contributed to his passing. I could have had no way of knowing he would have a reaction (even if he had had torb before....anyone can suddenly have a reaction), but if I had only called and said 'something is wrong'....I doubted myself and it cost Petey his life. It kills me to say it, but I have to let people know. I have so many times heard the drug 'torb' suggested, but I have learned it can be a very lethal drug in some cases, sadly in Petey's. Buprenex is a different drug. I wish had just called back to my reg. vets first and asked what they gave him in the passed. He would be here now. I don't know how I will ever forgive myself. I thougth I 'knew' what I was doing. I didn't. Petey trusted me with his life. My vet trusted what I was saying (and he had no reason to question it, as it is a drug normally used on gliders, but it had not been used on Petey.) I am writing this as a word of caution. If you ever give torb to your glider, and you see a reaction that you question, even if you have used it before...call your vet. I could have possibly saved his life if I had done that....if I had gotten the counteractive drug in time. Please know your gliders, love your gliders and triple check everything. I don't want Petey's death to be in vain.

Petey I am sorry beyond any words I could ever say.


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Mary
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106161
04/28/11 11:43 AM
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I am so sorry or your loss, please try not to blame yourself. You gave Petey so much love, and you saved him from a horrible life.


~Michelle~

wife, mom to 3 teens and 1 adult,

and slave to my 8 gliders

Skeeter, Luna, Rocky, Patches, Sweetie, Big Sissy, Little Buddha, and Nikko
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106202
04/28/11 01:27 PM
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Mary, Petey's death will not be in vain. I will be on the alert in the future, for such a reaction and will, in fact, ask my vet for something besides Torb. I wasn't aware of the risks with Torb, until now.


Connie

812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues

SmallWorldSuggies

"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward"

"Glide free :rbridge: Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106218
04/28/11 02:22 PM
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I am so sorry to hear of Petey's passing. He sounded like a really great little guy. At least he was able to know love before he moved on.

The information you posted is infinitely valuable, I will make sure I request something other than Torb, should a vet ever suggest it for one of my gliders. Thank you so much for sharing your story and for saving Petey from a much crueler fate.

Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106221
04/28/11 02:28 PM
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mary please dont beat yourself up over this. sounds like you gave little petey a very loving life and he is now in gliderheaven looking down on you and telling you he is happy and at peace with his love.
thank you for letting us know abt. this torb and the reaction it can cause.
you have probally saved many gliders in the future.

my heart goes out to you and charlie.

love,
nancy in detroit


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106351
04/28/11 06:37 PM
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I am so very sorry, Mary. hug2


~Gretchen

If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: sugarlope] #1106388
04/28/11 07:46 PM
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Mary, I am so sorry for your loss. I will keep you in my thoughts. Theresa

Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106425
04/28/11 08:50 PM
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I am so sorry Mary! Petey knew nothing but love from you. Many hugs!


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106427
04/28/11 08:52 PM
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I am soooo sorry for your loss. Petey is now in God's hands loving him and watching over you. I believe someday we will all be reuinited with our beloved pets in heaven to spend eternity together!!!


Connie: soon to be wife to Harold, mom to 3 children, 2 precious kitties, and my treasured gliders.
Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106428
04/28/11 08:53 PM
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I am so very sorry for your loss, Mary. hug2 I know it's easier said than done, but please don't blame yourself. I KNOW in my heart that Petey doesn't blame you and has nothing but love and wonderful memories of his life with you. You did think you knew what you were doing, I'm sure any one of us would have done the same thing. hug2 Thank you for the caution and know that you and Petey will be saving others the same heartache because I am sure that every single person reading this will now question their assumptions about the pain meds given to their own gliders. hug2 hug2


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Re: Petey - Complications from Torb [Re: ozzi] #1106603
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I am so very sorry for your loss, Mary. hug2


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