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I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so much #111197
06/18/06 12:18 PM
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I miss them so much and it is all my fault. Louie and Claudia are gone. I found Louie dead and Claudia died last night. I couldn't save her it was too late. It was all my fault a terrible and tragic accident. I can't bring myself to type it out now but I will later when It isnt so painful. I don't want the chance of this happening to anyone else. I feel so horrible. I don't think this pain will ever go away. It is all my fault. How can I ever forgive myself? Oh please god forgive me! By babies!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />

Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111198
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Oh no! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

I am so very sorry for your loss!


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Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111199
06/18/06 12:51 PM
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Awe I'm so sorry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111200
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My deepest sympathies to you.
It may be from something you caused but please remember that we ALL make mistakes.
We're here to help each other thru the good and the bad.
Don't wait too long to talk about it. It will be good for you to get it out and also, just think, you may be able to help another glider or two before something tragic happens to them.


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WOOOO HOOOO, WHAT A RIDE!!!


Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111201
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Sending HUGS to you and both shoulders to lean on. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111202
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I was in a hurry, my sister was visiting with her son and the kids were running around everywhere. I had them in their zippered bonding pouch. they where unzipped and I was stroking their little heads. Things got hectic with teh kids so I zipped them up so they would be safe. I decided I better just put them back into their cage. I put them back quickly without unzipping the pouch. It has been hot here. And with my daughter off from school I have been so tired at night I haven't been playing with them in the evening as much. I have been mostly loving them in their bonding pouch. But I had been so busy with the kids I hadn't even done that.

They where in there without food and water for 3 days. I changed their food. I changed their water. I just thought they were not eating much. So I gave them their favorites. the next evening when I took out their food plate and didn’t see the normal little nose marks in their yogurt I knew something was up. I saw that the pouch was zipped up!! I unzipped it and Claudia head popped out. I panicked and ran to get some fruit. She slid back into the pouch. Louie was gone. I tried to give Claudia some water then glider aid. She became unconscious and died slowly.

All of my fears for their safety… worried: I was so so careful to keep them safe!! I was so paranoid about everything, and they died by my hand! I killed them! I can't live with it. I am so so sorry. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> :

I never knew anything was wrong. their cage is in my bed room. They didn’t bark . I heard them doing their normal chattering while I was falling asleep. I just cant believe I was so neglectful. They depend on me and I killed them. They couldn’t get out. and they where trapped. I can't imagine being trapped like that Claudia’s hands where clinging to where the zipper opening was.

How can I ever sleep knowing that just feet away from my bed I slept while they died slowly?

Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111203
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OH HONEY!! I am crying reading this!!! I just don't know what to say, other than I am so very very very sorry!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111204
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How sad, I also don't know what to say <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> I'm so sorry others have to learn from your grief. We should all physically touch each and every glider we have in our home twice a day whether we have out of cage time or not. I had this same experience. I got in a panic and had to put my gliders in their cage in a hurry. Thank goodness it was only a couple of hours that they had been zipped up or things might have been very tragic for me too. I'm so sorry for you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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Oh I am so sorry! I am sending lots of hugs your way... if you need to talk please do, I have a great sholder to cry on... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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I am sorry to hear this. Please don't be so hard on yourself. Accidents do happen and this was an accident.
God bless you and your babies,
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I'm so very very sorry for your loss Annette, we all know you adored your babies and would never have done anything to harm them. Sometimes LIFE just gets in the way of things..it happens to us ALL...I think that All of us would have to admit that we've all had close calls with our suggies in one way or another...sometimes things are OK..and sometimes not. When my daughter was only a tiny baby I left her with my husband on our bed to take a shower, he was awake and watching her...but while I was in the bathroom I heard a sickening Thud and then she screamed and I knew...she had rolled off the bed onto our tile floor. She ended up OK...but for months my husband refused to be left alone with her, he no longer trusted his parental instincts and was afraid he would hurt her...or that she would be hurt because of him...I finally had to tell him "No One is Mad at YOU because of what happened...it is time that YOU are no longer Mad at yourself"...the guilt we put on ourselves is always worse than anything anyone can do to us...truth be told, when that happened I felt guilty because I Left Her...Stupid I know...but that was how I felt...Please Try not to be so hard on yourself, I feel your pain through your words and I know that for now, nothing will take that away. But it will ease as time passes, and you will be able to hold to the beautiful moments you shared with them, not the pain of this moment. This was an unfortunate accident, nothing more.

Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so much [Re: ] #111208
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I'm sure that most of us are crying for you, as well as with you, right now.
Go ahead and beat yourself up for a couple days. That's a natural thing for a loving human to do, but then you have to move on ahead. DON'T make yourself crazy. Move ahead and try to find a way to block this out. Keep as busy as you can.
Many hugs to you.


Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming
WOOOO HOOOO, WHAT A RIDE!!!


Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111209
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I can't thank you all enough for your support and kind words... It really has been a big help to me. I didn’t expect this much compassion and kind words. Thank you.

I have moved their cage and all of their things into the garage. I just can't look at it right now. I keep thinking of every moment in the past few days where I was enjoying myself or relaxed and content all the while they were suffering. My husband tells me that this will not do anyone any good but I just can't help it.

I really do hope that my post encourages everyone to, like Carrie said, physically touch their gliders daily.

I never thought that I would be posting here. I thought that I had over a decade left to spend with them. I feel like I did not appreciate them enough. They were such beautiful little creatures.

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I am so sorry for your loss. I know wods can not express the kind of pain and regret you are putting yourself through right now. Please remember as we all know, that your babies knew you loved them very much and that if any way possible you would not have done this. Many prayers and hugs being sent your way and while this was a tragic ending, it will be a reminder to all of us to keep a close eye on our babies whether at times we do not feel like it. Also, don't be too hard on yourself. Your a good person and while we never want something like this to happen, it does happen to the best of us.

Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111211
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[:"green"]This is such a tragic story and I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing what happened so that the rest of us can learn from your experience. I can certainly understand your anger at yourself, but you need to forgive yourself so you can move past this tragedy... We are here for you if you need us...
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[:"blue"] I've never really cried reading something like this before. I'm really crying now. I know it must be very hard and I am very sorry. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> [/]

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I'm so sorry to hear about this sad event....my prayers go out to you and we're all thinking of you....


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Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111214
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I wanted to let everyone know that I am feeling much better about everything. There is still a hole in my heart and when I think of things that remind me of them I start crying. but My children have really helped me through this. It is strange because my daughter is only 5 and she was comforting me, telling me about how everything dies. Then she started reminiscing about how cute they were and she even liked the funny sounds they made when they where scared and we first got them. I have had both my children her and my son (2 years old) sleeping besides me this past week.

There have been times when I felt like I hade to keep it together and act "normal just for their sake" I felt like if I didn’t have my children I would be lying in the dirt where I buried my suggies, weeping, screaming, and crying.



Melindakay offered me her little WFB for free! I had declined but it really helped me feel good that she would trust him with me. It has helped me heal more. I am starting to come to terms with the fact that even though their death was my fault that I wasn't a faulty caregiver. The fact that she would trusted me with such a special little suggie really made me feel good.

I cant bear the thought of replacing them.

I had decided that it would have to be a while before I seriously consider getting another pair. I had given all of my supplies away to Megan. She really didn’t have enough money to buy nice cage. And I know that it would do me no good to have an empty 6ft gage around. I wanted some good to come from this tragedy.


Not to mention the support you all have given me. I can’t thank you all enough. This is such a wonderful and caring community. You not only helped me learn so much about properly caring and providing for them, you have helped me through this tragic loss.

Thank you all!


I will miss you.

-Annette


p.s. I will no longer be making the suggiestyle pouch

I am not going to take down my cafépress store but I will not likely be designing any new glider logos for shirts.



Also


Jessica Woody had made me two wonderful pouches that I unfortunately never got to give to my babies. She is, on Louie and Claudia’s behalf, donating them to a rescue. Can anyone recommend one to me?

I think that her pouch design is the best I have seen on the market. I highly endorse her work.

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Dancing does rescue and she is wonderful!!

Re: I can't stand ths saddness, I miss them so m [Re: ] #111217
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thank you suns for the recomendation. dancing actually had messaged me about another rescue that she feels could really use them

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Oh my goodness. That's so sad! I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. But I'm very glad everythings back to normal now. *hug*

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I'm sorry to hear about your babies but they knew you loved them and they don't hold nothing against you things will be ok just spend time w/ your human babies they will take the pain away they are real good at it to i have 2 lil girls myself...............once again i'm sorry for your loss but it will get easier Thankx Jessica

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Annette, Don't feel you are not a good caregiver. People make mistakes - no one is perfect. My neighbor's dog ran away and she never found it. She think someone stole it out of the backyard. She has never wanted to get another because she doesn't feel that loss anymore. I say, "What a waste of life". Don't let the one incident rob you of the joy that is yours. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />


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Hey I can tell you I put up 2 of moms gliders in a sissy pouch and left the zipped up. When mom got up the next morning and did her daily yogurt drop to each glider she about beat me when she got to that cage and saw her babies had not eaten all night. They were ok after a late dinner thankfully (I got to live too). These things do happen then we all learn from them. I hope you do get a new pair soon there are so many in rescue homes that would love the care you would give to them. A second chance for both of you.

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I am so sorry for your loss.

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Hey~ you had mentioned getting together for shots of Tequila? Remember me? Since we are both doing better now, I think the Tequilas a great idea...let me know!
Justine

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OMGosh...I rarely ever read these posts because it puts me into a panic about my own babies and I'm anal enough about things, but I kept watching this one get replies even this long after the original post and oh my gosh.....I am absolutley heartbroken for you. It's easy for me to sit here and say not to beat yourself up over it, but I think we would all do that in this situation. It is NOT your fault. You're human and humans make mistakes. I really just don't even know what to say......I'm going to go give mine a yoggie right now though!!

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Ugh, I'm with you suggiemom2three

I too tend to aviod this forum. I'm such a worrier that I know if I read everything in this forum, I'd never sleep at night and my suggies would not even be able to breath cause I'd be hovering over them day and nite.

My daughter actually read this thread and made me read it because she said we needed to learn from it. This will always stick in my mind as something never to do, but I hate so much that the original poster is still suffering so much over a tiny mistake <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> The rest of us really need to use this horrible experience to learn so they are not gone in vain.

Our prayers will continue for this family. Please keep in touch with all of us on the board. We would miss you if you left us...

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I can think of twice that my sugs got out of their cage (totally my fault) and I really don't know why they didn't just go out the windows instead of making it all the way to my bed. Once out might be explainable. But twice????? Once was because I left one of the doors unlocked. They had to glide through rooms and around corners so had many windows open a few inches that they could have gone out of.
The most important thing is that we learn from our mistakes. You are a good suggie parent and sugs who need a good home would be lucky to find yours. You cannot replace your gliders, but you would be an even better home now for gliders who need a family because you care so much that they are safe.

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