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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1126803
06/09/11 01:53 PM
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I took down Dr. Stewart's information already.

There's just so many topics and so many pages it's hard to find stuff.


-Jen

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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: fox0r] #1126809
06/09/11 01:59 PM
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As much as folks do not want to hear it...

If and when you need to take your gliders to a vet because they are showing signs of this, PLEASE have them sign up on the ASGV board... There are SO MANY GOOD vets that are on there right now that are dealing with these same issues with their own clients. They are talking amongst themselves and they have access to what testings have already been done and what is currently being done from my understanding.

Also this has recently been posted...

http://www.exoticnutrition.com/suglcare.html

It is VERY important to know that Martins is not as small as folks think they are. They supply many different places with cages.

I have to say, from here on out, you will NEVER see me recommend this type of cage wire to be used as a cage when folks ask. This has happened in the past as well, just not to this degree. To me, its just not worth the risk.

I say Epoxy or Powdered coated cages ONLY...

Dr.Tristan has always told me to stay away from Galvanized cages due to the SMALL risk of zinc toxicity. Now I tell folks even with the small risk of this ever happening again, also stay away from PVC Coated Wire.

I do hope these threads will be some that stay in the archives and not automatically cleaned out after the 30 day period.


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1126899
06/09/11 04:11 PM
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We are back from the vet.

She has happy to hear that Cici has improved since I've taken her out of the cage.

We were prescribed amoxicillin, Lactulose, metronidazole, and vitamin B shots.

I'm to give the shots and the lactulose until symptoms are very much improved or gone, the other two are for a week and then we'll see where we need to go from there.


-Jen

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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1126909
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Thank you for the update Jen, I am hoping for improvement and fast recovery. hug2


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1126952
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Glad to hear you've seen improvement, Jen! Please continue to keep us posted!!

Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1126981
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I noticed improvement a day or two after I took her out of the bad cage. Her shaking went down considerably, and her balance/motorskills have slowly been returning. Hopefully all of these medications will help her get back to at least something close to 100%.

Also: My new cage came today, yay!


-Jen

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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1126988
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I built some Klubertanz cages with wire I bought late Sept 2010 and those cages are fine. I bought more wire 3/26/11 and modified one of my original cages with the new wire. 6 of my gliders were placed in the modified cage and 5 of them were shaking last night. 1 of them was shaking and vomiting.

I immediately removed them from the cage last night and they spent the day with my vet. He gave them all a shot of atropine and they seem to be doing better.

As of today Klubertanz has not offered to replace/refund.


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127047
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i got back with the vets. with my 3 gliders and my poor babies went thru the wringer. they all had to be put under as they were each getting 3 shots and 1 blood work to send to lab.
each glider got a shot of calcium edta (draws the metals out of system), vit. b12 and subcutaneous fluid.
she also gave me oral calcium edta for each glider to take
2 times a day. the oral doesnt work as well but she said
my gliders werent bad at all.
i gave her the numbers of the vets. that have treated this
problem. i believe she did consult with one of them, from my
eaves dropping.
the vets. office will call me when they get the blood results and she said we will go from there, maybe changing
the meds. or whatever.
she did not give them any antibiotics. which i dont mind as they dont have infections of any kind.

the only good thing abt. this is that she said they were not bad and they should be ok in a week or 2. yeh.

regards,
nancy in detroit
p.s. i am saving all of my vet. receipts because one of these companys are going to be paying all vet bills for this.


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127080
06/09/11 10:14 PM
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I'm glad to hear that your vet visit went well.

Good luck getting them to pay for stuff, and let me know if you succeed in that. I highly doubt they will, though, since there is no proof (ie, no tests have come back with anything linking the cages to my knowledge) at this point that it is actually the cages.

I would love for Martin's to eat the $160 I spent at the vet today. Plus my future appointments I have for Cici.

All of this is just so crummy. I'll be glad when it is all over.


Got my new cage cleaned and put together! It wasn't hard at all, and it fits through my doorways!


-Jen

Sugar Mountain - Sugar gliders in Idaho!
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127095
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somebody is going to pay for all the lost gliders and sick ones that are still getting sick.

keep all receipts and bad cage for proof.

good luck to all of us in this heartbreaking time.

regards,
nancy in detroit


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127119
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I've missed a lot of this issue as I've been off the boards for a bit. I was wondering if we had a list of safe/unsafe places to get a cage, as a lot of the problem seems to be in my area, my vet did mention it to me today when I was in. I have a cage in desperate need of replacement but am now almost afraid to do it. If a safe/unsafe list exists, could someone kindly point me towards it.


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127329
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any powder coated cages are safe. you can get some at suncoast.

regards,
nancy in detroit


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127498
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Are the actual wire manufactures taking any steps to fixing this yet???


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127729
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Has anyone heard anything from Martins? I've sent them two emails after the inital "Remove your animals from the cage" email and still haven't heard anything? My babies are doing GREAT! Definitely up to their mischief again! They are much better since I removed them from the cage earlier this week thank goodness. However their temporary tent cage isn't going to last forever. My heart goes out to everyone who has lost a glider I'm so sorry.

Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127758
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I've managed to get responses. Though I didn't reply directly to that email, instead I've emailed whatever address they said to in that email.

My husband has also managed to speak to them on the phone. He talked to them last week, I think, and they said at that time 3-4 weeks, minimum, for new cages to be ready to go out.

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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: hwh4ev] #1127774
06/10/11 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: hwh4ev

i had bought a large tower cage from exoticnutrition and thought i was safe. but i got an email from them telling me my cage and others are being recalled and to take the gliders out of this cage. they said to contact martins as they are the ones that supply to exoticnutrition and other companys.
i emailed martins as instructed and they are sending me a
new powder coated cage when they come in.

regards,
nancy in detroit
p.s. the cages from exoticnutrition that were recalled so far are:castle cage, tower cage, mansion cage and travel cage. if your gliders are still in one of these cages i advise you to get them out. my gliders were in the tower cage since feb. and last night started showing signs.


Since the manufacturer has not been identified, how will you know if you are getting the exact same wire on the new cages being sent?


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Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: SugarBlossoms] #1127783
06/10/11 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: SugarBlossoms
Originally Posted By: hwh4ev

i had bought a large tower cage from exoticnutrition and thought i was safe. but i got an email from them telling me my cage and others are being recalled and to take the gliders out of this cage. they said to contact martins as they are the ones that supply to exoticnutrition and other companys.
i emailed martins as instructed and they are sending me a
new powder coated cage when they come in.

regards,
nancy in detroit
p.s. the cages from exoticnutrition that were recalled so far are:castle cage, tower cage, mansion cage and travel cage. if your gliders are still in one of these cages i advise you to get them out. my gliders were in the tower cage since feb. and last night started showing signs.


Since the manufacturer has not been identified, how will you know if you are getting the exact same wire on the new cages being sent?


Because the old cages are pvc coated and the one they are sending her is powder coated right?


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127872
06/10/11 10:42 PM
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I was wondering if all those of you who have paid for testing and necrpcies were gonna get together and try for a class action law suit. Seems like this needs to be stopped from happening again. Someone knows where and when this started imo there is a cover up. I am sorry for those of you going thru this. Many hugs and prayers to you all.


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: sphynxie] #1127879
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Originally Posted By: sphynxie
Originally Posted By: SugarBlossoms
Originally Posted By: hwh4ev

i had bought a large tower cage from exoticnutrition and thought i was safe. but i got an email from them telling me my cage and others are being recalled and to take the gliders out of this cage. they said to contact martins as they are the ones that supply to exoticnutrition and other companys.
i emailed martins as instructed and they are sending me a
new powder coated cage when they come in.

regards,
nancy in detroit
p.s. the cages from exoticnutrition that were recalled so far are:castle cage, tower cage, mansion cage and travel cage. if your gliders are still in one of these cages i advise you to get them out. my gliders were in the tower cage since feb. and last night started showing signs.


Since the manufacturer has not been identified, how will you know if you are getting the exact same wire on the new cages being sent?


Because the old cages are pvc coated and the one they are sending her is powder coated right?



Yes. The new cages are going to be powder coated. The promblem cages were PVC. Martins is having to send out the wire to be powder coated as they do not handle that in house.


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1127891
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update on my 3 gliders. they are doing great today and i cant believe the difference in all of them they are running, gliding and playing like gliders should.
those 3 shots plus the oral calcium edta did the trick for my 3. blood work will come in next week. i will update when i get the blood results.

side note: i re-introduced vanilla to her partners-coco and shadow tonight. so far these is no fighting or squabbling. they are not crabbing or fussy like they were
just yesterday. what a big difference. i am glad it was caught in time.

ttl,
nancy


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128051
06/11/11 09:12 AM
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Great news Nancy!


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128171
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thank you. i count my blessings because i am one of the lucky ones.

sending prayers to everybody that has these sick babies.

regards,
nancy in detroit


regards,
nancy in roseville (formerly in detroit)
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128733
06/12/11 09:53 AM
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Add me to the list of those affected by the wire cry

I picked up wire from Klubertanz back on June 24th of last year. I made 2 cages right away, but, the other cages weren't done until a couple months ago. The wire I bought was the 1/2" by 1" in 3 foot rolls, I bought a whole roll and a partial roll. The partial roll was good, but, the whole roll had a very distinct odor on it. It was all washed right away before making the cages and also at least twice more before putting the gliders in the cages with water & dawn. The cages were also steam cleaned at least once. I still have wire in the garage because I had planned to make travel cages and even a year later it still has a weird smell to it dunno

I had one glider start showing signs on Friday, she looked like either she hadn't been grooming or her mate had been over marking her (or both). Took her and all of my gliders to the vet for fecals - all were normal so the vet attributed it to the mate since there were no other symptoms. A couple hours later that morning I lost Amira who had shown no symptoms was dead. Later that night Miya started showing symptoms of lethargy so immediately went to the er vet where we got some sub Q fluids and a b12 shot. I was sent home with that to continue subQ fluids over the weekend as well, just small amounts and push fluids orally as she'll allow. I'm happy to say this morning she's showing improvement. The bad news is this morning I have also lost another glider who had shown absolutely no symptoms. He was fine when I went in to check everyone at 2am when I gave out yogies and 8 am rolls around and he's in the bottom of the cage gone cry cry cry

I have pulled everyone out of the cages I built and put my reptariums back up.

Last edited by BeckiT; 06/12/11 10:33 AM. Reason: edited to add exact date of wire purchase
Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128734
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Omg I am so sorry for your losses cry


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128744
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Becki I am sorry for your losses. I think you should try to push oral fluids and get them to eat as often as you can. You should wake them up every 2 hours and get them to take something. Offer Pedialyte with a touch of fruit juice in it to make them want to drink a lot. Flushing their systems is what helps the most. I am not a vet but have gone though this too. I also kept anyone who had symptoms in smaller cages to keep them from using too much energy in hopes they would use the energy to heal faster.

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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128749
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I'm sorry to hear about your losses Becki. hug2 When I contacted Klubertanz they basically told me too bad. I was advised by them to contact their manufacturer who is Riverdale Mills.

I'm sorry for my delayed response but a lot has been going on here and I did lose my Skye on Friday. I came home from work and found her cold and lethargic at the bottom of her cage. I rushed her back to that same vet who gave her another injection of atropine and placed her on a warming pad. He let me hold her while we waiting to see how she responded. She was gone within 10 mins. I have since learned that the atropine probably wouldn't have helped her and being uncomfortable with the care she received I took the remaining 5 to a different vet yesterday. I'll copy and paste what I posted on another board.

Being unhappy with the care they received I took the remaining 5 to another vet. Since the treatment Nancy's vet gave to her gliders seems to be working I discussed it with my vet as well. She loved the idea of Calcium edta injections but had none in her office. She is checking with her colleagues and will call me in when she has it. They did receive an injection of Vitamin B-Complex. One glider (Dekota) also received subq fluids as he is worse than the others. His skin is also yellow like Skye's was but not quite as bad. I was sent home with Clavamox and she's also trying to find some sam-e which she will compound in her office and mix with cherry flavoring. These guys go back to the vet in a week for their recheck but will most likely be back in on Monday for the other injection. She also sent me home with supplies to subq and showed me how to do it.

She will also be calling Dr. Tristan on Monday just to see what his opinion is.

As of this morning my remaining 5 are doing okay for now.


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128827
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Becki~ your wire was almost a year old?

Does anyone else have issues or purchases dating farther back than Oct 2010? Does anyone know or heard of anything?


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128840
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I'm so sorry Becki. hug2

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BeckiT, are the symptoms you experienced the same as what other people have posted? Yours seem different. All cases to this point have been wire/cages that was purchased after Oct. 2010, yours is before that. I would think that you would have seen symptoms a lot earlier if it were the wire causing them. I'm just speculating here, but I would have the vet look a little more into why your gliders died. I hope you sent them off for a necropsy to get some answers. I am so sorry for your loss!


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Re: Update on cages and recall -PART THREE [Re: Gizmogirl] #1128847
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Also, I received an e-mail from Klubertanz. To answer my own question that I've asked here several times - the manufacturer of the PVC coated wire they sell, Riverdale, is aware of this situation.

Klubertanz further stated that as far as Riverdale is aware, there is no direct connection to the wire. They also stated that maybe in a few weeks, information will be more scientific. At this time, there is not much scientific data to analyze the cause. Hopefully in a few weeks, more will be known.

Last edited by GliderNursery; 06/12/11 06:33 PM. Reason: clarify comment by Klubertanz

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