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#1136598 - 06/27/11 06:04 PM platinum and creamino questions
hwh4ev Offline
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hi every body,

i have a couple of questions, i will start with the plats.

1. you only need 1 platinum with a non plat. glider to
produce a plat. correct?
example: platinum male bred with a mosaic(with no plat. het in glider) they can have plat. joeys or even a true
plat. mosaic, is this correct?

creamino- if you breed a creamino with a mosaic(with no
creamino het) i know you will have 100% creamino hets.

could the joeys have the ruby eyes with only 1 partner being a creamino?

thank you,
nancy in detroit
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#1136608 - 06/27/11 06:20 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
tjlong Offline
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First answer is no. You need a platinum gene on one side and either a plat or a leu gene from the other parent to throw platinum. You cannot get a true platinum mosaic unless your mo carries the plat or leu gene and the mate carries a plat or leu gene. Don't forget plat + plat or leu get platinum.

Next, if you have a cremeino as one parent then it is very possible that a Joey will carry the cremeino gene. Therefore I believe it may be possible to display the ruby eyes. Hopefully someone will confirm.
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#1136613 - 06/27/11 06:28 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
finnessa Offline
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It's possible to have babies with ruby eyes but not a guarantee that it will ever happen.

Tracy is right when it comes to the plat part. Your plat COLORED mosaics wouldn't be true plat mosaics because there is n plat or leu on the one side.
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#1136614 - 06/27/11 06:29 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: tjlong]
AmandaSnyder Offline
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So i was wondering does both parents have to be het for plat or can one be lue het and one plat het to have plats.Just new to the whole colored gliders and i want to know everythang lol,Thanks
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#1136615 - 06/27/11 06:33 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
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You can make platinum having leu het + Platinum het.
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#1136617 - 06/27/11 06:34 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
hwh4ev Offline
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wow, i am shocked. i thought you only needed 1 plat. as a partner to produce a plat.


darn it.


thanks for the info so far.
nancy in detroit
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#1136618 - 06/27/11 06:39 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
finnessa Offline
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If you had Plat + leu your babies would only be plat or leu. you'd have no hets.
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#1136621 - 06/27/11 06:50 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
hwh4ev Offline
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ok, i checked my mosaic and she only has 12.5% leu het and
is a 3rd gen. wfb.

i am going to say if the plat. has 100% leu het in him and
the mosaic has only 12.50 percent leu het, than it is possible to have a plat. joey, but slim chance?

ttl,
nancy in detroit
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#1136622 - 06/27/11 06:58 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
finnessa Offline
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It's a slim chance but if the gene is there it's there. Either way the het babies would be 50% plat het 50% leu het because you don't know which of the 2 genes the Platinum threw out. If the platinum parent is from a Plat/Leu pairing and not the pure plat line.


Edited by finnessa (06/27/11 07:00 PM)
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#1136623 - 06/27/11 06:59 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
tjlong Offline
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The leu gene in the platinum doesn't really come into play. The 12.5% leu het in the mosaic is the one you are hoping proves to be 100%.
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#1136625 - 06/27/11 07:17 PM Re: platinum and creamino questions [Re: hwh4ev]
hwh4ev Offline
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Registered: 12/03/08
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Loc: roseville, mi
thanks for all the info. i am just checking out things in case my trio doesnt work out. i was thinking plat. or creamino and with all this info it is heading toward a
creamino.

so glad i asked this question now because i was very
wrong in my thinking on the platinums.

ttl,
nancy in detroit
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