Ty fuzzypeach those were some of the things i was trying to think of!

I pray that she's not suffering. I wonder how you tell also? wow, I am on this roller coaster of trying to decide should I or shouldn't I have a joey. I keep thinking no but then I see one and I am just in love with it.

I have 2 intacked rescue males and two white face females all from different people, is it wrong to let them breed? With no pedigree known? I'm not sure I could ever afford to buy a joey.

I just don't understand, really I don't. I would be all over the place trying to figure this out. I'm not trying to say scam really I'm not. This whole thing is just really confusing to me.

Why would someone make a thread about it with pictures and then leave for days KNOWING what this would do to people reading it?

To me it makes no sense at all. And I never said I didnt see one Teresa, I just dont think it looks normal, but then again alot of things about this poor baby doesn't look normal.

Would be awesome if the op would come back and shed some light on this baby and give us rubber neckers some more information or maybe answered a few questions that were asked.

And yes this baby may have an appointment next friday, my question would also be why so long?

Do not breed just because you want a joey. And never breed without lineage on both parents. If later down the road after loads of research & the purchase of lineaged gliders you decide to breed, that the best route to go. Even if it was for one joey to keep.

I agree. I made the mistake of letting 2 unknown linage glider breed when i first got into gliders and all 3 sets were premies and i had to help supp feed. With not knowing the linage its a bad idea. Just love them and save up for a glider with a good linage later on.

Okay, thanks for reminding me. I really am going to have the rescues neutered. I just love all thes fuzz butts so much and keep thinking how much I would adore a baby so I have a few weak moments.

What would a lineage look like? Similiar to a dog? Does it have the parents on up?

Nobody is saying Scam... what was asked is:

Im just wondering.... another *gotcha* by chance?

It was a question, looking for others opinions and Alden was the only one to understand where I was coming from with that. Thank you Alden.

And why should that be so bad to ask? When someone comes along with a question or a concern or an obvious medical question/concern such as this one, and it is one we have never seen before, why would you want to stay inside the box? You always want to look outside the box for the answers.

questioning things or people, there is nothing wrong with it as long as you are not being mean and vengeful. Creating questions often leads to more answers. Having more than one possibility leads to more thinking.

If one thought it was a scam would they continue looking and later post a link to another glider that seemed to be in a similar situation in earlier years?




Seriously? A little more kind? You would be hurt? Why? Because others out there that are viewing the small amount of information that was given by the OP, had questions or questioned the validity to your post?

I will not apologize for looking at many different angles and trying to think of different things it could be.

And if it were me, and I got back on and seen this thread, I would understand why people would think outside the box and question things. I would then post more pictures of the joey by itself and with the parents just to show those who may question it.

Also, if the OP ever does come back on and reads this, please contact me if you are in need of assistance to do the proper testing on this joey to see whats wrong with it.

Neutering them would be best.

I see a patagium on this baby. Also, if anyone is doubting if it is really a sugar glider, look at the hands, with their five digits. No rodent that I've ever owned has four fingers and a thumb like gliders do. Rats, mice, gerbils... they all have only four front digits.

I really hope the OP comes back and elaborates, but even if she doesn't, we cannot assume that this was all a joke.

Also, as a general rule, rescued gliders are not ever supposed to be bred.

Back on topic: I hope the OP does come back and give updates. Maybe she is just waiting for the vet appointment to come back with responses to everyone. She could very well be reading this and taking notes to ask her vet. I'm sure if she had any more information to post she would. And maybe she isn't posting the lineage yet so she doesn't start a panic about those particular lines until she finds out whether this is genetic or happenstance. No need to panic everyone with these lines just yet... (I know some will disagree with that statement of mine, and that's ok!) She obviously cares enough to post this, lets just be patient and see what comes of it.

sorry Peggy, it wasn't directed at you just an observation. I didn't intend to hurt your feelings.

You didnt hurt my feelings, no worries. :-)

The 1st thing I thought before I got to Peggy's picture post is that w/everyone asking for lineage, if she bred w/o it she may be embarrassed to come back. Then when the questions came up about it really being a glider I was relieved to see Melissa pm-ing her. I hope we can learn more about this little one's condition.

She looks very premature to me w/eyes open @ an amazingly early age. Could being out of pouch have triggered the eyes to open early? She could have any # of developmental issues making her look this way.

As far as why would she wait until next Friday ~ maybe she needs to wait to get paid or for a day off.

I do hope she comes back to share more of her baby w/us. And I also hope the joey grows into a healthy adult glider.

She may have a life outside of the computer. She may be married with a number of children, involved with the PTC, and the kids may have sports that she attends, even practices.

She may have limited computer access.

She may not have been able to get to the vet sooner than the appointment she scheduled. Could be money, could be the vet.

I adore my son's pediatrician and though he needs to see his doctor, it's not a dire emergency, so I accepted the earliest available appointment, which isn't until the 17th.

This joey, according to the OP, is doing fine thriving. This does not appear to be a dire emergency, so she accepted the earliest available appointment.

Without knowing a person's circumstances, it's unfair to lay judgement.

Honestly, I would not blame OP for not coming back. She posted this asking questions, not asking for flaming of any sort.

I've been in her shoes. See how often I post now? Bullying and harassing messages make you NOT care about the community so much. Hope that doesn't happen to her.

Here she is stating that this joey is 4 weeks oop AND has always been hairless. So regardless of what is going on with WHY she is waiting till friday, the fact is that she has known for 4 weeks that there is something wrong.

Also, she may have a life outside the computer (unheard of I know) BUT she doesn't seem to have a problem with coming here several times a day and reading this thread OR reading, responding to pm's here too. But the op can't respond to this thread? She hasn't been back since Thursday people. Oh wait, yes she has. She just hasn't said anything HERE since Thursday.

You all are thinking the same thing, I just happen to be the person to say something about it.

I pray that this baby will grow up to be a healthy happy little pet, I hope and pray also that she gets the help that she so desperately needs. There have been plenty of others that have offered to help in whatever way they can and I am no different than anyone else who is wanting nothing but the best for this baby and I extend an offer to help as well. But in efforts for ANYONE to help with this baby there has to be some kind of communication.

Don't get me started Megs, and there was no flaming going on and no one was being mean. I believe that a few questions were asked that anyone would have wanted answers too including yourself.

Sherri no flaming??? A member of this board took the picture off it posted it on FB as a red flag warning about this baby. I would bet a million dollars there is a post on LGG about this and less kind thoughts being said. And even if its not said in black and white people were being irrational towards the poster right off the bat. Whats the lineage neuter the dad today, so on and so on. I'm not saying some of this doesn't raise a lot of question marks to me but I really can't blame the poster for wanting to not come back.

I personally don't think this is a scam. I think the poster may not fully realize how dramatic this whole situation is but I personally would not be taking this vet straight to the vet. I would be taking home fecal and urinalysis samples of the parents and the joey if I could get in and call the vet and refuse to take them in. I think the poster got a bit freaked out at the reaction to the baby and felt like people were blaming the owner?

Sherri you asked why would someone post asking for help then disappear? Happens everyday on GC.. this one just got more attention.

How do u tell when someone last was on? She has not responded to the pm we have going since the 4th nore has she read the 2 iv sent.

We all need to take a step back. The forums aren't always our number one priority. If you guys really want your questions answered send her a PM, and wait patiently for a response. Her profile says she's a housekeeper. Which could be a number of things. It could mean she cleans houses, could mean she house sits, could mean she has children. Any of those things can cause a person to be tired and busy, and then to top that off she has suggies and I'm sure they occupy the remainder of her time.

Most of us would would want to stay posted and respond in a timely manner, but if we take a minute to look at how long this person has been a member and then look at how many posts she's made we would realize she doesn't post much. She has been a member for almost a year and a half and has only posted 128 times.

So let's calm down. Even if some of you didn't mean to convey a negative tone, you did. Maybe reword things or take a deep breath before you post.

If you want to learn more about this baby and it's lineage having her feel unwelcome is DEFINITELY not the way to get the information you want. If anything you have deterred her from posting. Let's all calm down and wait until AFTER Friday to jump to any conclusions if she still remains MIA.

I hope she does come back and inform us of everything, because I would like to know more about what caused the lack of hair.

But the op can't respond to this thread? She hasn't been back since Thursday people. Oh wait, yes she has. She just hasn't said anything HERE since Thursday.

Maybe she feels bad enough about all of this and she (and some of us) perceived as flaming made her opt out of responding. It's not like she's obligated to respond. She didn't sign a contract saying she'd come back. She asked some questions, got the advice and thoughts necessary, and it's only because of others that this thread continues. Like I said, she's not obligated to come back for anybody.

You all are thinking the same thing, I just happen to be the person to say something about it.

Who are you to say what we're thinking? I happen to NOT be thinking the same things as you, so leave me out of it.


Don't get me started Megs, and there was no flaming going on and no one was being mean. I believe that a few questions were asked that anyone would have wanted answers too including yourself.

I beg to differ. If I were in her situation, I sure as heck wouldn't come back. The only thing you're correct about is that I asked questions. But if the OP chooses not to come back and answer, I'm not going to hold it against her. She doesn't have to answer to anybody except herself and her vet.

Sherri no flaming??? A member of this board took the picture off it posted it on FB as a red flag warning about this baby. I would bet a million dollars there is a post on LGG about this and less kind thoughts being said. And even if its not said in black and white people were being irrational towards the poster right off the bat. Whats the lineage neuter the dad today, so on and so on. I'm not saying some of this doesn't raise a lot of question marks to me but I really can't blame the poster for wanting to not come back.

Seeing as how all but 2 or 3 people in the glider community are no longer on my FB, I did not know this. But it's disgusting. If she wanted her pictures and accusations against her running rampant on FB, she would have posted there. How sad.

I agree. People have been irrational right off the bat. I know first hand the feeling of being pounced on for innocent questions/actions. Then I get PMs asking if I'm ok, where have I been, etc. Yeah.. I'm here (sorta). I'm fine. I choose not to post much because of crud like this.

Honestly, and I KNOW I'm not the first to say this (heck I just got a PM today from a 'newb' this evening about this)...
But GC is no longer the warm welcoming we're all here to help community.

Have one hair out of place and you're attacked and the world hates you. If a newb is thinking 'wow you all act sanctimonious', maybe it's true.

Or in this instance all hairs out of place

I should not have laughed, but I totally did.

Everyone seems to have simmered a bit here, but I'd like to remind everyone of rule 4 for a minute.

Personally, this thread feels a lot like a group of people talking about someone that is in the same room. I've always thought that a rude thing to do. I think our membership here is better than that.

I do hope that we find out what is going on with this little one, and that he or she develops into a happy, healthy adult glider.

Thank you Jessica! ever stop and think why some don't come back is cause they are getting the feeling they are being baited into a firing line?

Many have posted over they years that they are scared to post here and on other forums cause they are scared. This is because that huge spotlight gets pointed in their face and the interrogation squad starts after asking a question.

Its tiring to see that over the years the guilty until proven innocent matter of thinking keeps growing. Maybe its because some are bored and need to have something new to squawk about but this stops now or the firing line and self appointed interrogation squad not trying to help but are here trying fuel the squawking will be asked to leave.

I hope to see the OP come back and post, although after reading some of the replies from some here I wouldn't blame them if they didn't.

If they do and anyone continues to post in the manner of baiting and bullying, please help us and let us know by clicking the notify button

I've often wondered why so many people leave, and I don't think its because we are hard on them. I think all the "elders" with all the knowledge and experience feel that they cannot ask questions without being accused of badgering and baiting.

I'm starting a thread just for this reason. Sherri if ya don't mind I'll start it with your above quote. But title it "Where have all the ELDERS gone"?

I think a lot of people (newbs, and oldies) can get a bit impatient/irritated and cause threads to get heated.

I feel like its great to ask questions and gather information, but we need to patiently wait for a response instead of people jumping to conclusions. Causing the OP or any other person in the thread to feel attacked will not get you the information you desire. It will usually cause them to argue, ignore the thread, or leave the forums. Which then leaves us with no new information, and prevents us from learning more about situations like this.

If we cannot be patient, then we should contact the person ourselves.

Guess what? I don't have the Internet at my house and I did not plan on coming back til Friday after my vet visit or even Saturday or Sunday or who knows.



I know this is not normal and as long as she seems healthy and, happy and alert I am not all too concerned. There is nothing more that I can humanly do besides bring her to the vet, keep her warm, keep her cage extra clean and wait.



Me rushing to the computer isn't going to help her grow. I know you guys want an explanation and seem to be digging as deep as possible to find one, But sometimes there might not be one and if there is, I'm sure you will all find it one way or another.



I have read some not so great face book postings about her with her picture and now I'm wandering if I should even post more pictures. I'm not looking to get tormented because she was born different.



Her lineage is good, I'm not sharing it because if she is *Ever* re homed I do NOT want her to be a breeding stock. This is ME caring for HER.



I do love her and I'm doing everything I can possibly, You all don't need to know every single step of my life.



I may not even post in here anymore to the public. I will continue messaging the nice pm's I got.

And.. Don't think so negatively!



Thank you to those who were kind and helpful.

I for one am watching for updates but I am not digging for anything so please dont shut those of us out that are interested in how her life plays out. Please