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Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1201897
12/08/11 08:12 AM
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I understand how you feel. We will all say some prays for you and your baby.


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Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1201905
12/08/11 08:43 AM
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Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1202662
12/10/11 01:36 AM
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Just an update on fes...hes been on baytril now for 2 1/2 days, i havent seen an improvement, hes not worse, but not better. called the vet, if hes not improving by monday back to the vet he goes. the dr either wants to put him on another med along with baytril or do blood work to determine what the cause of his breathing impairments are. hes eating fine but not really drinking, and i noticed he seemed to be a little constipated, tried pedialite, he wasnt interested, hes enjoying watermelon immensely though, which the dr also suggested i try since its a very liquid-y fruit. im glad hes not worsening but also sad hes not improving and really wondering now if he has a tumor in his lung. frown

Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1202672
12/10/11 02:04 AM
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You said Val mentioned it sounded like he was having seizures. Was this discussed with your vet and if so, where did that conversation lead? I'm concerned there is no improvement and afraid that maybe this vet is exploring the wrong avenue. Might want to be in contact with Val again tomorrow and see if she has any other recommendations or thoughts on where to go from here.

Re: hyperventilation [Re: DCMuffin] #1202675
12/10/11 02:11 AM
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hmm i did think about that but i really dont believe he is having seizures, the vet did an xray and found patches in his lung..i will mention seizures to him but you can tell that fes is having trouble breathing because when he is not active he is not having trouble, but when he becomes active he gets out of breath and has to stop. ill message her again to see if being active triggers seizures..

Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1202677
12/10/11 02:16 AM
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Message her anyway, especially given the fact that the X-rays showed patches. Val has much experience with tumors in gliders and will be able to help you go in armed with good information and knowledge when talking with your vet.

Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1202680
12/10/11 02:23 AM
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ok i messaged her..this is all very concerning because if he doesnt have any infections i am giving him antibiotics which will kill all his good bacteria. i am giving him yogurt in between doses to get him some probiotics. but that is why if no improvements by monday the doctor wants to do blood tests...to determine if it is cancer or not..

Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1202683
12/10/11 02:33 AM
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Antibiotics are never good if they are given when unnecessary and ised for a long period of time But at this point, you're trying to rule things out and a few days of meds isn't going to hurt. It's okay smile.

My biggest concern right now is nutrition for your boy and if he is eating and drinking enough. Since he seems to choke when he eats, is he getting anything down? What about purees?

Re: hyperventilation [Re: DCMuffin] #1202686
12/10/11 03:13 AM
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he is having a better time eating, hes eating his leadbeaters, yogurt, and watermelon. i may get some baby food peas tomorrow since im scared to give him solid veggies. i have not seen him drink water or pedialite, but the watermelon was a great idea since he just peed all over me twice, and it was a lot! never thought id say "good boy" after he peed on me so much. his appetite is good and he doesnt seem lethargic, its just really sad when he tries to play he becomes winded and breathes through his mouth. i had to take the wheel out because he would go around once and would have to stop. i also read that a sign of pneumonia is when you hear popping sounds when they breathe and i heard some popping last night, not sure if that would also be consistent with a tumor..

Re: hyperventilation #1204337
12/14/11 01:58 AM
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fes went back to the vet today and was finally diagnosed with laryngeal paralysis... hes an old guy (about 11) and the vet said although hes never seen this in sugar gliders hes seen it in old aged dogs..basically his larynx stays open,..doesnt expand when hes active to get more oxygen in and doesnt close when hes eating to prevent food from entering his lungs.. he does have a small touch of pneumonia probably brought on by the laryngeal paralysis, and will finish out his antibiotics. i dont plan to give him anymore solid foods and plan to make the rest of his life as comfy as possible. thanks to all who prayed for my baby, but now it just seems like a matter of time.. he can live with this disease, he just cant do what he used to do and love..he cant be active because he will become winded very easily.. im so so sad for my little guy, he is my heart and i hate to see him this way..but he has lived quite a long and happy life and he will be surrounded by love when god chooses to call him home.

Re: hyperventilation [Re: ] #1204536
12/14/11 02:38 PM
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I am glad you now know what his problem is so you can try to keep him as comfortable as possible. He seems to have lived a happy long life in your loving care.

In addition to having trouble with solid foods he probably will not be able to drink plain liquids like water or pedialyte easily either. Thin liquids aspirate very easily.

Don't try to get him to drink plain water or pedialyte - just offer thick liquids. You can add a little additional water to baby food consistency foods to help him stay hydrated but keep them thick enough for easily swallowing.

If he is drinking with his head up and neck somewhat extended (for example drinking from a water bottle that is higher than his shoulders) it may increase the chance of liquids slipping into his airway. Lapping up his food from a shallow bowl may also help. Hard to explain to a glider but swallowing with his chin down may be easier and safer for him.

(my mother had a similar condition and had to re-learn to swallow thick liquids with her head tucked, chin down)

Hope this is helpful. He does know he is well loved.


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Re: hyperventilation [Re: CandyOtte] #1204563
12/14/11 04:02 PM
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i did think of the water bottle thing... problem is i have 2 gliders and the other one needs water..he does not seem to be drinking as often from the water bottle so i am mashing up watermelon and putting it in his bowl..he seems to be ok with that. i thought of separating them so she can have her water bottle and he can just use his bowl but they would be way too sad without one another...not really sure what to do in this situation..

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