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i really need some advice/help #1238292
03/12/12 02:58 PM
03/12/12 02:58 PM
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Okay so i know ive only had ninx for a week. But sje crabs at everything and she was finally calming down to where she only would crab if your hand came in the cage. She would lunge but never bite. I just started the bonding pouch and now she crabs at my voice or even the smallest movement. She is currently on my chest in my shirt in the bonding pouch. How do i get her to stop crabbing so much? I understand its only been a little over a week but neeko only crabbed for the first few days and that was only a couple times. Any advice?


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238296
03/12/12 03:22 PM
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She will come around. To her your a giant monster that wants to eat her lol, she hasnt learned to trust you yet but your doing everything right by taking it slow with her. When she was here she didnt act like that but she didnt see her parents act like that toward me so she trusted me,now she has no mommy and daddy and just is terified.
Try the licky treats well i would try the yogies first sence she lunges at you when she relizes you give her yummy food and all u want in return is to pet her shell come out of her shell.
Also she needs to hear your voice more so she not scare of it,go to her cage threw out the day and just talk to her or sit on the phone by her cage,that should help with your voice.
I hope everything works out i miss her so much.Does any1 else have any more advice.


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238297
03/12/12 03:33 PM
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I want her to atleast be somewhat used to be before i intro neeko and ninx. Im not going to do it for another couple weeks atleast im not gonna start pouch swapping until then. Is it okay if she isnt bonded to me to intro them?


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238306
03/12/12 04:01 PM
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I had two crabby girls when I first got them. They crabbed for months I tried all the bonding stuff. They did calm down and not be so vocal but still was very scared. I put a very sweet boy in with them and both the girls totally calmed down. I believe the boy was very sweet and confident in people and he showed them it was ok.


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238309
03/12/12 04:05 PM
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Neeko is very sociable. If she does still crab come intro time hopefully he can show her its okay.


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238328
03/12/12 04:46 PM
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sometimes it helps alot when they are not aloneand are with another glider it can help her to learn to trust u.


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4 :grey: Ma & Pa/ Adam & Eve

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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238331
03/12/12 04:52 PM
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Alright ill wait another week or two and then start the pouch swapping. Just dont wanna rush it but i also dont want them to be alone.


Lauren

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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238335
03/12/12 04:59 PM
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I agree with the not alone. Not only does she not have her Mommy and Daddy she has to be by herself. Thats something she's never had to do before.

When she crabs in her bonding pouch try looking at her. This way she knows it's you talking to her. She needs to put 2 and 2 together. My Stella was like that. Poor baby had never been handled. Was taken away from her parents and sent to me. Thank goodness she had her brother Ozzie. Those were the smallest gliders ever trying to eat me. LOL!


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238338
03/12/12 05:04 PM
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Make sure you keep to your normal routines and sounds. Use the dishwasher, washer dryer, vaccume, blender, stove, timers, alarm clocks, fans, cooking, cleaning... This will help her learn that these noises are nothing to be afraid of.

Mine slept through the vaccume in their room Saturday. They've heard it before and they know its not a giant Suggie Munching Dragon LOL..

When she is in her pouch on you, move and talk like you normally would. This will get her used to you, your voice, and your movements.

Yes, she will crab, but you can not keep everything hush hush just to keep her from crabbing. Then every little noise will scare the living daylights out of her.


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238339
03/12/12 05:07 PM
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Thank you everyone. I often listen to music and watch alot of tv especially when im laying down upstairs at first she would crab at it but shes getting used to it. Ill try not to be so quiet and stiff lol ive been laying here for like 3 hours trying not to move lol.


Lauren

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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238341
03/12/12 05:12 PM
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Nope, move! Part of them trusting you is learning that your movements are not going to hurt them.

When we do tent time, I tell my son to just move like he normally would while playing with them and the toys. They are skittish, but it gets better with every tent time.

They need to know that every time you move it is not aggression. You're just moving.

Wiggle, scratch and itch, stretch your legs out, go to the bathroom, go get a snack. When she starts to crab hold her tight against you and tell her "Its Okay", "you're fine", or whatever comfort phrase you want. The tighter the better.


"Perhaps they are not stars, but rather openings in heaven where the love of our lost ones pours through and shines down upon us to let us know they are happy."

Two Boys
Sitka,
Pudge

Monkeys:
Nanuk, Dayz & Elfie
MudBug & Tista
Teemo & Rune (Cyndra gangel )
Lils, Razz & Nut

Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238345
03/12/12 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: LalaPetush
Thank you everyone. I often listen to music and watch alot of tv especially when im laying down upstairs at first she would crab at it but shes getting used to it. Ill try not to be so quiet and stiff lol ive been laying here for like 3 hours trying not to move lol.


It's ok to do this as long as you pet the outside of the bag and talk to her.


"While I Breath, I Hope."

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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238348
03/12/12 05:24 PM
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Thanks everyone!! smile


Lauren

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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238386
03/12/12 07:14 PM
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I had one that came in very crabby. I would hold her firmly against my chest in a pouch and massage slow circles on her, she came around.

She started purring after about 2 weeks.


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Re: i really need some advice/help [Re: LalaPetush] #1238387
03/12/12 07:17 PM
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Shes not crabbing when i move or talk anymore which is good. My friend just brought some yogurt cause he was at the store i think after im done eating dinner ill try licky treat smile


Lauren

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