Sugar Glider Community Calendar

Please click here to see larger view
Articles
More coming soon!!
Today's Birthdays
JeremyandLexie, littlenitro, Tish84
Member Spotlight
Ladymagyver
Ladymagyver
SW Missouri
Posts: 3,713
Joined: October 2014
Show All Member Profiles 
Last 10 Posts
Railroad needed
by Ladymagyver. 10/15/19 04:33 AM
Breeding question colors please help Breeders
by Gliderlove87. 10/14/19 08:22 PM
100% het platinum and luecistic
by Gliderlove87. 10/14/19 08:20 PM
Hi I’m new and I have a few questions
by KarenE. 10/14/19 09:43 AM
Seeking good home for 7 1/2 year old male glider
by lilniffa. 10/13/19 09:38 AM
2020 Sugar Glider Calendar and Cafe Press Store
by theresaw. 10/10/19 08:25 PM
Wake up times and feeding habits....
by Ladymagyver. 10/08/19 10:06 PM
Baby Food?
by KarenE. 10/08/19 07:42 PM
Should I Be Concerned?
by Feather. 10/07/19 03:28 PM
Google+

Facebook
Join Us On Facebook
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Cinnamon glider? #1272580
07/09/12 06:34 AM
07/09/12 06:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
I saw these 2 joeys the other day listed as cinnamon. I could not see a difference between them and my standards. What makes them cinnamon?

Attached Files
cinnamon.jpg (155 downloads)
cinnamon2.jpg (131 downloads)
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1272590
07/09/12 08:31 AM
07/09/12 08:31 AM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,714
New Jersey
etrnalsunshinee Offline
Glider Slave
etrnalsunshinee  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,714
New Jersey
The pictures aren't great quality so I can't tell for sure, but they good have a more red/brown tint to their fur than a classic grey. Cinnamons do tend to look very similar to greys so unless you have a picture with a cinni next to a classic you can't always tell the difference.


Amy

:wfb: Micah
:wfb: Momo
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1272622
07/09/12 11:08 AM
07/09/12 11:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
GliderNursery Offline
Tech Admn
GliderNursery  Offline
Tech Admn

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
I don't see a cinnamon glider, I see a standard grey.


Shelly

Don't sacrifice quality information for convenient information.


Glider Nursery

Sugar Glider Foundation


Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1272634
07/09/12 11:37 AM
07/09/12 11:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
I thought they were standard gray. I bought a joey from this lady once that was supposed to be cinnamon, but I really didn't see a difference.

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1272638
07/09/12 11:56 AM
07/09/12 11:56 AM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,039
Bristol, Va
MissSarah Offline
Glider Addict
MissSarah  Offline
Glider Addict

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,039
Bristol, Va
I see adorable little standard grays as well. heart If I'm not mistaken, cinnamon gliders come with a lot of controversy as a lot of people believe the red/brownish undertones of their fur is simply nothing more than staining. dunno A lot of "cinnamons" turn back to a lovely shade of gray once their diets are switched or they're kept in cleaner living conditions. dunno


Proud Mom to Princess Pim The Insane. heart(and several other babies, skin and fur.)

Dogs have owners. Cats have staff. Gliders have indentured servants.

:rbridge: Dexter. You left blueberry stains on my wall and pawprints on my heart. I love you Decker-Boy. heart
Full Moon Gliders
(Under Construction)

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1272654
07/09/12 01:03 PM
07/09/12 01:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,747
80 acres of paradise in KS
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
Dancing  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,747
80 acres of paradise in KS
yep. I'm one of those that doesn't believe that "cinnie" is a true color.

diet (even the "approved" diets) can have an effect on the coloring of gliders. you can even have 4 gliders in the same cage eating the same food and only one have the diet effect their coloring.

I agree...I see adorable but grey joeys.


620-704-9109
Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.

I could have missed the pain
But I'd of had to miss the dance


The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1272656
07/09/12 01:06 PM
07/09/12 01:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
A lot of the time i see standards falsely advertised as cinnamon for profit. I didn't know these gliders were standard when i got my first glider a while back. It was also sick. But now i know to check them out before i get them.

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: etrnalsunshinee] #1274470
07/15/12 12:57 PM
07/15/12 12:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 19
Saint Augustine, FL
SonGoku Offline
New Member
SonGoku  Offline
New Member

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 19
Saint Augustine, FL
Originally Posted By: etrnalsunshinee
Cinnamons do tend to look very similar to greys so unless you have a picture with a cinni next to a classic you can't always tell the difference.


Like this?




Juliana is my Cinnamon, Raphael is my Classic Grey. I've been told many times that Juliana's fur is 'stained', but she gets exactly the same diet as Raphael. vet also confirmed. Doesn't matter to me, she is happy, healthy, and in far better shape than when we first found the little girl, terrified and alone, in the front yard roughly 3 months ago. And I love 'em both!

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274518
07/15/12 07:51 PM
07/15/12 07:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
GliderNursery Offline
Tech Admn
GliderNursery  Offline
Tech Admn

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
That is a great color comparison shot! But if its only been 3 months on the new diet, she could still turn a beautiful grey.


Shelly

Don't sacrifice quality information for convenient information.


Glider Nursery

Sugar Glider Foundation


Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274682
07/16/12 03:25 PM
07/16/12 03:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 28,216
Washington D.C. Metro Area
DCMuffin Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
DCMuffin  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 28,216
Washington D.C. Metro Area
I was thinking the same thing, Shelly. It's been a very short amount of time and diet can take several months before it works its magic. Also keep in mind that each glider metabolizes diet differently so even some gliders that are on a perfectly healthy diet have a bit of tint to them sometimes.

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274684
07/16/12 03:37 PM
07/16/12 03:37 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 974
St. Louis area (Illinois)
kikimeeko13 Offline
Glider Guardian
kikimeeko13  Offline
Glider Guardian

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 974
St. Louis area (Illinois)
My Kiki is like that also. She's had the same exact food as Meeko for as long as they've been together and she's more brown than he is.


Meeko



Kiki

Last edited by kikimeeko13; 07/16/12 03:38 PM.

Taylor
Proud Momma of:
:grey: Kiki, Meeko, Kalani, Ellie, Slim & Pickins
:bb: Lilah :wfb: Odin :rtmo: Scooter
:grey: Makaio *3/28/12-5/19/12* :rbridge: My Angel
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: kikimeeko13] #1274722
07/16/12 06:28 PM
07/16/12 06:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
Originally Posted By: kikimeeko13
My Kiki is like that also. She's had the same exact food as Meeko for as long as they've been together and she's more brown than he is.


Meeko



Kiki


Kiki is really brown and pretty.

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274752
07/16/12 09:32 PM
07/16/12 09:32 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
Cora Offline
Serious Glideritis
Cora  Offline
Serious Glideritis

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
What you have are grays. Spencer would beg to differ with you Dancing! He is WFC. His skin is even real pink in color


USDA Licensed Breeder
903-808-1142

http://www.freewebs.com/angelfish_37/index.htm
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274795
07/17/12 12:42 AM
07/17/12 12:42 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 974
St. Louis area (Illinois)
kikimeeko13 Offline
Glider Guardian
kikimeeko13  Offline
Glider Guardian

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 974
St. Louis area (Illinois)
Thank you Holly!

I'm not really sure if Cinnamon is really a color or not and i absolutely HATE not having their lineage, ya know? And because they've been on the exact same diet and stuff, i don't know why she'd be so brown?


Taylor
Proud Momma of:
:grey: Kiki, Meeko, Kalani, Ellie, Slim & Pickins
:bb: Lilah :wfb: Odin :rtmo: Scooter
:grey: Makaio *3/28/12-5/19/12* :rbridge: My Angel
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274812
07/17/12 02:06 AM
07/17/12 02:06 AM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 10,569
IL (St. Louis area)
StitchsMom Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
StitchsMom  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 10,569
IL (St. Louis area)
There are many, many variations of the gray glider. These range from very light grays that look almost silver to the "black beauties" which have thick black markings and darker fur color plus every color in-between. This includes shades of brown. Look up brownies (google sugar glider brownie color). While these gliders do look more brown, I don't really consider them their own coloration. I believe they are a variation along the gray scale.

Of course diet, environment, etc could all be factors. I just wanted to get the whole gray-scale thing out there. Just like there are a ton of different mosaics out there that are all just different looking mosaics, I also believe that there are a lot of different grays out there that are all just different looking grays.


~*~Jenny and the fur kids~*~

:grey: :grey: :grey: :leu:

>>> Sugar Glider Slave <<<
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274916
07/17/12 01:50 PM
07/17/12 01:50 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
GliderNursery Offline
Tech Admn
GliderNursery  Offline
Tech Admn

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 20,093
North Central Ohio
I agree with StitchsMom. You can have a glider that is more brown in color and that be its natural color - its just a variation of the standard grey. However, most times when we see a "cinnamon" glider, it is due to diet and when put on a good diet eventually become a beautiful grey glider.


Shelly

Don't sacrifice quality information for convenient information.


Glider Nursery

Sugar Glider Foundation


Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: kikimeeko13] #1274950
07/17/12 03:55 PM
07/17/12 03:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
I have seen gliders in mine's lineage that says red variations and they are brown tinted with red markings. Maybe somewhere along the lines if she is not stained, she could have buttercream in her?

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: Dancing] #1274961
07/17/12 04:39 PM
07/17/12 04:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
S
sugarlope Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarlope  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
S

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
Originally Posted By: Dancing
yep. I'm one of those that doesn't believe that "cinnie" is a true color.

diet (even the "approved" diets) can have an effect on the coloring of gliders. you can even have 4 gliders in the same cage eating the same food and only one have the diet effect their coloring.

I agree...I see adorable but grey joeys.


I agree with Teresa - I'm not a believer in true cinnamons, either. Yes, I have seen those gliders that look it and I don't think there is anything wrong with the color or anything, it's just another shade of gray (that doesn't appear gray, lol).

I have had two girls that have looked cinnamon and my others all look gray. BUT I have seen BOTH of these girls look a gorgeous crisp gray on other diets. I think gliders just digest/process their food differently (just like people do) and sometimes it affects their color. The diet they were on years ago, when Lili turned gray made a couple of my other gliders really overweight and appear not as healthy, so they didn't stay on it. Every other diet, Lili looks beige, her skin is very pink also, but her fur is dark reddish-brown where it should be black, and beige or cream colored where it should be gray or white. It is a very uniform and not unattractive color, but it doesn't make her a true cinnamon.

But that's just my opinion. wink

Last edited by sugarlope; 07/17/12 04:40 PM.

~Gretchen

If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1274968
07/17/12 04:58 PM
07/17/12 04:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
Sometimes I think it's sad when people are like "Oh I just got this beautiful cinnamon glider" when in reality, it could be unhealthy/stained.

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275006
07/17/12 07:33 PM
07/17/12 07:33 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,747
80 acres of paradise in KS
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
Dancing  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,747
80 acres of paradise in KS
Originally Posted By: HollyGlider
Sometimes I think it's sad when people are like "Oh I just got this beautiful cinnamon glider" when in reality, it could be unhealthy/stained.



I just want to note here that not all stained gliders are unhealthy.


620-704-9109
Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.

I could have missed the pain
But I'd of had to miss the dance


The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: Dancing] #1275010
07/17/12 08:00 PM
07/17/12 08:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,039
Finally in the Mountains!
sitkasmom Offline
Glider Addict
sitkasmom  Offline
Glider Addict

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,039
Finally in the Mountains!
Originally Posted By: Dancing
Originally Posted By: HollyGlider
Sometimes I think it's sad when people are like "Oh I just got this beautiful cinnamon glider" when in reality, it could be unhealthy/stained.



I just want to note here that not all stained gliders are unhealthy.


My Mudbug was healthy as a horse... He was just really really badly stained when I got him.. He was orange.

Hi staining has pretty much gone now.

I do have one little girl who has a brownish tint to her, but she is still a standard grey to me. I don't really think there is such a thing as a cinnamon either...


"Perhaps they are not stars, but rather openings in heaven where the love of our lost ones pours through and shines down upon us to let us know they are happy."

Two Boys
Sitka,
Pudge

Monkeys:
Nanuk, Dayz & Elfie
MudBug & Tista
Teemo & Rune (Cyndra gangel )
Lils, Razz & Nut

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: Dancing] #1275025
07/17/12 09:02 PM
07/17/12 09:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
S
sugarlope Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarlope  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
S

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
Originally Posted By: Dancing
I just want to note here that not all stained gliders are unhealthy.

I also agree with this - staining and/or a different coat color does not always mean unhealthy, unclean, malnourished, abused or neglected. thumb


~Gretchen

If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: sugarlope] #1275028
07/17/12 09:18 PM
07/17/12 09:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
Originally Posted By: sugarlope
Originally Posted By: Dancing
I just want to note here that not all stained gliders are unhealthy.

I also agree with this - staining and/or a different coat color does not always mean unhealthy, unclean, malnourished, abused or neglected. thumb

So it doesn't mean they are malnourished? I always thought if they were stained that they were not on a healthy diet. I learn something new about them everyday.

I do know my "cinnamon" glider was malnourished and now is healthy and grey.

Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275035
07/17/12 09:42 PM
07/17/12 09:42 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
S
sugarlope Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarlope  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
S

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
Yes, some of them absolutely are. But this is not always true. As I said, one of mine is brown/beige, but she is 9 years old and has been this color (except for a few months) since she was 1 yr old and had several very healthy, beautiful joeys while she was breeding. I have seen many such gliders, that while their color is not a crisp, bright gray, they are very healthy, active, good appetites, on good diets.


~Gretchen

If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275042
07/17/12 09:56 PM
07/17/12 09:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 974
St. Louis area (Illinois)
kikimeeko13 Offline
Glider Guardian
kikimeeko13  Offline
Glider Guardian

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 974
St. Louis area (Illinois)
My Kiki has a very good appetite and is very very active especially in her wheel. She's one of the more brown colored suggies I have seen. She's very healthy, active, and happyjust a little more on the brown side smile


Taylor
Proud Momma of:
:grey: Kiki, Meeko, Kalani, Ellie, Slim & Pickins
:bb: Lilah :wfb: Odin :rtmo: Scooter
:grey: Makaio *3/28/12-5/19/12* :rbridge: My Angel
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275047
07/17/12 10:44 PM
07/17/12 10:44 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
Cora Offline
Serious Glideritis
Cora  Offline
Serious Glideritis

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
What about Spencer, he has been cin for 5 years!


USDA Licensed Breeder
903-808-1142

http://www.freewebs.com/angelfish_37/index.htm
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275077
07/18/12 12:35 AM
07/18/12 12:35 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,747
80 acres of paradise in KS
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
Dancing  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,747
80 acres of paradise in KS
Spencer is stained from all the smooches he gets!


620-704-9109
Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.

I could have missed the pain
But I'd of had to miss the dance


The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275084
07/18/12 02:38 AM
07/18/12 02:38 AM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
Cora Offline
Serious Glideritis
Cora  Offline
Serious Glideritis

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,576
Kilgore, Texas
no, hes not, lol he is a white faced cinnamon.


USDA Licensed Breeder
903-808-1142

http://www.freewebs.com/angelfish_37/index.htm
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: HollyGlider] #1275109
07/18/12 08:36 AM
07/18/12 08:36 AM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 7,560
Long Island, NY
yiyo Offline
Serious Glideritis
yiyo  Offline
Serious Glideritis

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 7,560
Long Island, NY
I've never really wondered extensively about this topic but this thread has me thinking. If cinnamon really is a variation - is there evidence from lineage to prove it?


Alyssa

"Moving on is a simple thing, what it leaves behind is hard."
Re: Cinnamon glider? [Re: yiyo] #1275130
07/18/12 09:54 AM
07/18/12 09:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
HollyGlider Offline OP
Glider Lover
HollyGlider  Offline OP
Glider Lover

Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 548
Tennessee
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe there is buttercream, etc in the lineage. I've seen standard gliders that are light brown tinted and come from creamino lines.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Feather, KarenE, Ladymagyver 

Sugar Glider Help Page



Please click above to see how you can help!!

Moon
CURRENT MOON
Who's Online Now
1 registered members (Ladymagyver), 22 guests, and 113 spiders.
Key: , , Owner, Admin
Newest Members
Sweenzzzz, Naenae, Cj1371, glidermumma, qmc1134
6986 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums132
Topics9,914
Posts156,484
posts in the last 24hrs0
Members6,986
Most Online1,230
Jul 28th, 2019
Last 10 New Topics
Breeding question colors please help Breeders
by Gliderlove87. 10/14/19 01:59 AM
100% het platinum and luecistic
by Gliderlove87. 10/13/19 04:37 PM
Railroad needed
by BohoPhoto. 10/13/19 04:31 PM
Hi I’m new and I have a few questions
by Anonymous. 10/13/19 01:48 PM
Should I Be Concerned?
by the_eidolon. 10/05/19 08:50 PM
Wake up times and feeding habits....
by CKC44. 10/03/19 02:01 PM
Bonded, But Still Biting
by glidermumma. 10/02/19 11:22 PM
Critter Love Complete
by Shalena. 10/02/19 10:44 PM
The Cake Is Baked, The Ice Cream Bought
by KarenE. 10/01/19 10:31 AM
Non stick pans...
by CKC44. 09/30/19 10:45 PM
Popular Topics(Views)
787,254 TEXAS
629,040 OHIO
435,308 OKLAHOMA
385,517 UTAH
282,875 NORTH CAROLINA
Supported Browser
This site was tested and is best viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox



Firefox 3

Download your copy today!!!
Home Forums Links Sitemap Vets Breeders Sounds Contact Us Names Rules & Policies

GliderCENTRAL
©1998-2019
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software
(Release build 20180918)
Page Time: 0.061s Queries: 16 (0.016s) Memory: 1.5244 MB (Peak: 1.8809 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2019-10-15 10:54:50 UTC