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#1276266 - 07/22/12 03:11 PM New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=]
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Hello everyone!
My name is Jayme!
I recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance Michelle and my four year old glider named Brie!
I bought her on an impulse from a mill, and I am fully aware of some of the stories. Yet, there is nothing else I can do now but to try and make her as happy and healthy as possible.

Since the move I bought her a new cage which is about twice the size if not more from her original, and I am working on easing her into a leadbeater's diet or some other approved diets. Before the move she never was able to get as much attention as now. I take her out everyday and she seems to have taken a great liking to Michelle. Yet, I fear the move may have been too stressful for her, or the diet is not her favorite. She Inhales the Ensure, but she leaves the Fruit and veggies. Plus she is not as active as she used to be. She constantly sleeps and always want to be in the cage. I can remember a time when I had to try and keep her in her cage!

I've been doing more and more research and I've seen that if she wasn't the only glider she may become more active?(happier) Would this be a good idea? OR Should I go in a different direction for her diet? Please help! I can give more info in necessary!

P.S. Also how long should I wait to get an email verification?

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#1276269 - 07/22/12 03:21 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Gliders thrive with others of their own so I do highly suggest finding her a buddy to curl up and sleep with. The fact that she isn't as active as she once was can and you're seeing a change in behavior be a sign of loneliness or depression in gliders. Also, when is the last time she was at the vet for a wellness exam?

As for diet - you mentioned Ensure with fruits and veggies. Does she eat anything other than this each night? I do see that you're looking at another diet, which I think would be a good thing for you to do. There are several that are recognized and used here on the board. Take a look at all of them and decide which one would be best for you.

Not positive how long the email should take - you can shoot a PM to Eddie (gliderdad79) and he can check it for you. thumb
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#1276298 - 07/22/12 05:48 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Last visit was about two weeks ago for a check up, and to take a look at a balding spot above her eyes. vet said she seemed to be pretty healthy and nothing to serious about the balding. I just have to keep an eye on it for a while.

So you don't think that she would have any trouble getting used to another glider? I wouldn't want her to fight with the other one!

I have repcal that i sprinkle into the ensure and I just bought some honey to make part of the leadbeaters. (Water honey eggs)and she also has some berries and bugs from Suncoast! which she seemed to like!

i usually give her mealworms but everywhere i go lately is out of stock. which is weird because they're bugs!

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#1276320 - 07/22/12 07:45 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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The bare spots above her eyes sounds like over grooming to me, which is a sign of stress.

I too suggest getting her a friend.
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#1276337 - 07/22/12 09:33 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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I would like to get her a new buddy!Im just afraid she might attack the other glider once i got one=[

Also the vet said she didn't have scratch marks and she didn't see any parasites. But, animals bald for many reasons, most of which are because of stress.

she didnt grow up with other gliders, but did have a buddy during her younger years.

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#1276429 - 07/23/12 08:15 AM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Feather]
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Originally Posted By: Feather
The bare spots above her eyes sounds like over grooming to me, which is a sign of stress.

I too suggest getting her a friend.


:agreed:

She'll definitely be much happier with a buddy smile
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#1276431 - 07/23/12 08:21 AM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: MrGiDdY]
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Originally Posted By: MrGiDdY
(still me just got my account!)

I would like to get her a new buddy!Im just afraid she might attack the other glider once i got one=[

Gliders typically do just fine with other gliders. Introductions can sometimes be a bit more difficult, depending on age, but not always. I have one girl who is approximately 8 years old and she has been successfully (and very quickly) introduced to two other gliders here in my home.

Also the vet said she didn't have scratch marks and she didn't see any parasites. But, animals bald for many reasons, most of which are because of stress.

Overgrooming of the head is typically because a glider is stressed. I stand by getting her a friend. Also, what do you have in her cage? What kind of toys does she have? What kind of wheel? Do you have enrichment and stimulation items in the cage for her? Apple branches? Eucalyptus leaves and branches?

she didnt grow up with other gliders, but did have a buddy during her younger years.
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#1276487 - 07/23/12 12:17 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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I just got the second shipment from the BIG Cage purchase! Super excited! She is already snuggling in the sleeping pouch on my lap! She has two rope toys, a new wheel, and some old things i already had dangling in there. But she never really went for dangely toys, other than foraging toys. But, how many foraging toys can you stuff up before it too many snacks!
She had apple branches at one time! I think they may be back at my old house so i can get them when i go visit! Where can i get the Eucalyptus leaves? Any other toy recommendations?

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#1276491 - 07/23/12 12:20 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Please take the rope toys out - rope is not safe for gliders, as their nails will make it fray, which can wrap around little fingers and toes. Make fleece ropes instead.

You don't have to stuff the foraging toys with snacks. You can put a few little treats here and there, but use other things like fleece strips (very small ones), straws, or other little toys with maybe a treat stuffed inside.

I'd get the Euc from Matt at www.eucproducts.com
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#1276492 - 07/23/12 12:21 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Be very careful with ropes, gliders can get their nails caught in them and that can cause an injury. I personally won't use ropes in my cages.

As for the foraging toys, you can actually put small pieces of their dinner in them instead of treats! That way you won't have issues with too much junk food and they get plenty of foraging opportunities. wink

For euc, you may want to try Euc Products.
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#1276503 - 07/23/12 12:52 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Why would Suncoast put that in the bundle then?
I'l take them out and I have the perfect fleece pajamas i can cut up into ropes!

Also im looking into the Eucalyptus leaves and sticks which look like a lot of fun!

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#1276506 - 07/23/12 01:00 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Everyone has different opinions on what is safe and what isn't. Some (not saying this about Suncoast in particular) will sell anything to make money.
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#1276556 - 07/23/12 03:37 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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As Shelly said, there are just some places that will sell so that you purchase that bundle with "fun" looking toys. Not so fun when your glider gets hurt and my hope would be that they stop selling them for gliders altogether.
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#1276557 - 07/23/12 03:41 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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I saw you say that you purchased a few items to make part of the BML diet. I recommend you follow the entire diet instructions as written because the recommended diets are made to follow the ratio 2:1 calcium over phosphorus. Your baby needs this to be balanced because too much phosphorus is bad for suggies. Get her on an approved diet ASAP.
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#1276576 - 07/23/12 05:00 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Definitely going to go with the fleece, I know they sell them by the sheets at Kmart! Thanks for the advice I'm glad I talked to you guys before something bad happened. I also talked to a breeder and I finally decided on the HPW diet instead of the BML. I'm going to start her on that real soon!

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#1276731 - 07/24/12 08:47 AM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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In the interim of getting the HPW prepared for her, make sure to feed her a source of protein along with the fruit, veggies and Ensure. Either plain boiled or scrambled egg, boiled chicken, or chicken baby food work great.


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#1277089 - 07/25/12 03:05 PM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: yiyo]
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What about mealworms? Those are her favorite=]

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#1277235 - 07/26/12 08:28 AM Re: New to forums* owner of a 4 year old(Brie) Help=] [Re: Anonymous]
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Mealworms are great for cleaning her teeth but they don't have too much protein in them. You can continue to give them as a treat in the morning before she goes to bed for the day. But you'll want to give the egg/chicken for protein thumb
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