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Sydney's pouch infection
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11/22/06 01:43 PM
11/22/06 01:43 PM
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As many of you know my Sydney has been battling a pouch infection for several months now. It was at it's worst during the SGGA this summer & has gotten to the point where we are keeping it controlled. However, the infection is still there and all cultures we've done have been positive for bacteria. This last time we sent the culture off to be tested: BACTERIOLOGY RESULTS AEROBIC CULTURE SPECIES.............Misc BREED............... ANIMAL ID...........Sydney (Sugar Glider) SPECIMEN #..........Swab-Pouch ORGANISM ID.........PSEUDOMONAS SPP COMMENTS............The growth of the isolate was heavy on direct culture
ANAEROBIC CULTURE SPECIES.............Misc BREED.............. ANIMAL ID..........Sydney (Sugar Glider) SPECIMEN #.........Swab-pouch ORGANISM ID..........NO SIGNIFICANT GROWTH Well, we know what it is now, but can someone explain to me what it means? My vet said it was sensitive to Baytril but the oral Baytril we gave her initially didn't work so this time we're going with a topical drop.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: BeckiT]
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11/22/06 04:35 PM
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Pseudomonas is a common bacteria in our environment. It thrives in warm moist environments like a suggies pouch. Since the interiour of the pouch has no blood circulating through it antibiotics given by mouth can not fight the bacteria living in the pouch. Swabbing the pouch with the antibiotic drops or dropping them into the pouch will put the antibiotic in contact with bacteria so they can kill the pseudomonas. The drops will need to be spread throughout the pouch. This part of the test identified the bacteria present. There may be another part of the test results that will identify the antibiotic that will kill the bacteria. Godspeed Angel and The Suggies
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: Xglider]
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11/23/06 05:06 AM
11/23/06 05:06 AM
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Xfilefan
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Angelskates is right. I found some additional information as well. Also: There may be another part of the test results that will identify the antibiotic that will kill the bacteria. That would be the "S" in C & S The part that identifies the bacteria is the CULTURE itself. The SENSITIVITY is where they add different antibiotics to the organisms they grew, and see which ones kill it the best. It is a mobile (able to move about), flagellated bacteria (another flagellate most have probably heard of is giardia), and this one is a Gram Negative bacteria. Most of what I've found on this bacteria states it is present in food and water...BUT usually doesn't colonize when the immune system is healthy. One of these also mentions that they can colonize "moist skin areas"-and a pouch would qualify. Because a glider's pouch is so contained that may put gliders into a slightly different category than other mammals with this, though, since most animals and people don't have a pouch. Most Pseudomonas are naturally RESISTANT to penicillin and related beta-lactam antibiotics, but SOME are sensitive to piperacillin, imipenem, tobramycin, or ciprofloxacin. I'll have to do some digging to find out exactly where Baytril (enrofloxacin) fits with those, and see if I can find anything on what might be effective should that fail. For now, here are some webpages on Pseudomonas: http://textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomonashttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomonas
Last edited by Xfilefan; 11/23/06 07:12 AM.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: Xfilefan]
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11/23/06 06:44 AM
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I do have the list of medications that they mentioned. I can post it if you'd like. Out of that list, my vet chose to go with Baytril & has a topical form of it for me to use in her pouch. Syddie does NOT appreciate this expecially since she needs to have it applied 2x a day for the next 2 weeks. But hopefully it will finally eradicate the nasty little bacteria bugs.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: glidrz5]
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11/23/06 07:13 AM
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Not necessary, unless you want to-for some reason I thought that was asked somewhere, but could just be me. I really hope this does it for her, Chris...poor little thing's been thru enough with that pouch!
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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11/23/06 07:27 AM
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Sydney is so very lucky to have you Chris
Hope it gets better soon for both of you!
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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11/25/06 02:19 AM
11/25/06 02:19 AM
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wow Chris, I just saw this post. Her pouch looked so painful when we were there. Bet she doesn't like getting it messed with. have some wormies on hand for her reward Miss you!!! OH... i did get the ice cube trays..thank you!
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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11/28/06 01:21 PM
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Hey, Chris. How is Miss Syd's treatment coming along?
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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11/28/06 05:50 PM
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Chris, if you have the time, could you post a picture of what a pouch infection looks like? I've never had to deal with one - so just curious
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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11/28/06 06:20 PM
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Just wondering how she is doing? Angel and The Suggies
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: Xglider]
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11/28/06 11:44 PM
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Sorry guys, it's hard to tell how things are going. Syd is being a trooper tho. I know it's hard for her to be restrained & have meds squirted into her pouch 2x a day but she is handling it well. Jen....your nail bags work well for that as well. I tried folding her up in it before we treated her pouch & she was much less stressed than other times. She also didn't tense her stomach muscles up as much so it made placing the meds that much easier. Kristin, I'd post a picture, but there's honestly not alot to see. The main indicator is that the fur around Syds pouch is stained kind of a dark coffee color rather than being fluffy & white.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: glidrz5]
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11/29/06 08:34 AM
11/29/06 08:34 AM
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I'm glad they help. Thanks for the update...just wondering if there was anything noticeable yet...sometimes we call them 'miracle drugs' for a reason, lol...and sometimes it takes time. It'd been a few days though, so wanted to hear.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
[Re: Xfilefan]
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12/08/06 12:54 PM
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Well, Ms Syd went back to the vets today for her checkup. She was such a little angel! Not one crab out of her, she even chuckled at the Dr when he was examining her. He was impressed that in the month since he's seen her that she's gained so much weight. My little girl is up nearly 15 grams from Nov 10th! Then he turned around & asked how she was eating LOL as if he couldn't tell He took another culture today & if it shows bacteria here in town, he's going to send it off again for a culture & sensitivity. Overall tho he said her pouch isn't looking as inflamed & looks pretty good. But the pseudomonus is sneeky & can lurk in corners just waiting to pop out again. So until he knows for sure we continue with her topical meds 2x a day.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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12/08/06 01:08 PM
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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12/08/06 03:47 PM
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Chris … thanks for the update… glad to hear Syd is coming along… it has been such a long road since the vet trip at the SGGA… poor little girl.. give her a little rub for me..
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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12/09/06 07:24 AM
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I'm glad to hear that! Is there any difference in the discoloration at all? Keep up with the meds, and let us know what the vet finds.
Jen/Colin Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed Sinbad, Gabby, Baby, and Alley
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Re: Sydney's pouch infection
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12/09/06 10:26 AM
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I don't know that there's a change in the color Jen, but then it may be that I'm too close to the situation to really tell. All I do know is that Ms Syd is feeling a LOT better now & looks awsome (clean fur, bright eyes, bright white chest, fluffy tail) Until you look at her tummy you'd never know that anything was wrong with her.
Chris Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy AND Miss Emmy & Miss Chloe kitties My Angels: You are always in my heart. You've flown to the rainbow and wait there for me Someday I will join you together to be
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