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My baby passed away. #309387
06/08/07 05:16 PM
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Well this just shows how ignorant I am.
I feel so horrible sitting her crying because she passed because it was my fault.

After she ate she was fine and I was playing with them and having fun I went to bed and woke up this morning and went into the glider room and the male was having a snack and I thought I heard the female crab so I went back this afternoon after I cleaned there cage and there was the male wrapped around the female and she was dead he looked so sad.

There was alot of dirreah on the floor.
I dont know what to do I guess I should have called the emergency vet last night and got her in ASAP but I thought things would be okay..
She was also missing half her tail and her arm was in her mouth like she was chewing on it.
First time I had ever seen her mulilate and she was dead.
She bum hole was also really widened.


What is Jynx going to do now that she is gone?
What I am I going to do?
I feel so bad frown

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309392
06/08/07 05:19 PM
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Oh no! Oh I am sooo sorry for your loss!

It was not your fault! Please don't blame yourself at all - you might want to get her in to the vet to find the reason she died and get Jynx in too just to be sure he is okay...

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309394
06/08/07 05:22 PM
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I am so, so sorry! I agree it isn't your fault..<3


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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: kyro298] #309419
06/08/07 05:48 PM
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Sorry to hear about your loss.The suggies and I will keep you in our thoughts.


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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: kyro298] #309420
06/08/07 05:49 PM
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I just now saw this....I am so sorry that this happened. Please try and not be to hard on yourself, you were at least asking for help and doing what you could when you first noticed that she was not well.
Our prayers are with you, and your little one. hug2

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06/08/07 05:59 PM
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Don't blame yourself...I know that's what we always do first and then we question what we could have done differently. It is not your fault. You did not do anything intentionally to hurt her. Prayers and hugs are sent to you.Give Jynx a lot of extra love, you both need it right now.

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I'm so sorry. I've read before that suggies hide their illnesses really well so please don't blame yourself. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309443
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Thanks frown
I called all the vets about 10 minutes ago and only 2 of 6 deal with suggies.
And they soonest I can get in for a check up is Monday or tuesday.

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309444
06/08/07 06:18 PM
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PitsnHerps -
I'm sorry she didn't make it. Gliders are just SO good at pretending they are fine. By the time you notice they are sick, quite possibly it is almost too late. And then she confused you by "coming around" and acting normally. I know that you made the best decision you could make at the time.

Please spend EXTRA time with Jynx. That he was curled around her is so sad. He's obviously going to miss her - so give him time to grieve, and give him extra love. You two have each other for now.


Alden
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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ValkyrieMome] #309497
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I'm so sorry ! Please let us know what happened when you get back from the vet !

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309516
06/08/07 08:08 PM
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I am so sorry. It breaks my heart that they are so good at hiding things because if we don't know than we can't help them! Just keep your male close to you until his vet check so he doesn't get depressed or if he gets sick as well you will atleast have a clearer picture.

I wanna give you lots of hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2

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06/08/07 08:11 PM
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Please accept my condolences, but try not to blame yourself. These little ones are experts are hiding things and even the most experienced owners can't always tell until it is too late. Know your baby is safe and not in any pain and you will see each other again. Your other glider will be sad and confused, so you must give him extra attention. Again, I am so very sorry.


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06/08/07 08:12 PM
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Thank so much!
Hes acting very crabby and seems sad without her.
When he was clinging to her when she was dead I think he was trying to keep her warm or something.

I dont know what to do?
Should I try and find a new buddy for him?
I dont really want to replace baby Roo with a new one so quickly but if it will help him I will!

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309561
06/08/07 08:57 PM
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I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Everyone is right give the other one lots of extra attention. It will take him a while to grieve. I'm new to owning gliders myself, so I don't know how soon you should attempt to get him a new cage mate, but I would think you should wait a little while. You both need time to grieve over your loss. Just remember all the good times you had together. I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. God bless you all.


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((((((( HUGS ))))))) ~ ~ ~ ~ ((((((( HUGS ))))))) hug2

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309592
06/08/07 09:24 PM
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cry hug2

I can't imagine how you are feeling right now. To echo what everyone else has said, please don't blame yourself.

If it were me, I wouldn't make any decisions right now. Give yourself time to grieve and then you will be able to think clearly about it. It is OK to just be sad right now.


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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom] #309840
06/09/07 07:12 AM
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I'm so sorry cry Know that you really were trying to get her the care she needed, you just didn't have enough time to do so frown It's really not your fault...

Spend as much time with him as you possibly can. He will be grieving for quite a while and it will break your heart to watch him do it. He will search the cage for her and he will weep for her cry This is a normal part of grieving although it breaks our hearts to witness it. Wait a few days and then decide whether you're ready to get him a new companion yet or not. He will definitely need a new one, but the timing is up to you and how much time you can spend with him & how much comfort he will accept from you. With my Pika, when Cricky died, it was about a month before I was able to get Nara as a new companion for her... Every day was agony & heartbreak until Nara came - it was amazing how quickly she & Nara bonded to each other heart If I had been able to get Nara sooner, I would have, but the timing was okay and Pika was able to get past her grief once she had Nara...

hug2 hug2 hug2


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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #309986
06/09/07 02:48 PM
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I am so sorry for the loss of Roo and the pain that comes with loving a sugar glider.

As for the male... he needs to be vet checked asap. Fecal smear with fecal float to be sure he does not have a bacterial or parasitic problem. Best if he could have been seen today but if not symptonmatic for signs of illness then Monday will be fine.

God Bless.

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So sorry for your loss hug2 heart

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: ] #310048
06/09/07 04:45 PM
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PitsnHerps:

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. You can spend hours on end playing the "coulda/woulda/shoulda" game...and finish with exhausting yourself & feeling badly. Many of us have lost babies & know your anguish right now.

Give your little man extra time & attention, then see what the vets have to say about his health issues. Make sure they do a "fecal float" and urinalysis (Diascreen 7) to possibly find out what went wrong.

After Jinx gets a clean bill of health, it will help him and you to go in search of a new companion. Think of it as not pushing your other little girl out of your lives...it's more of filling a void that Jinx will especially have in his.

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Re: My baby passed away. [Re: minkasmom] #310125
06/09/07 07:04 PM
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Thanks so much for all your support.

Hes so crabby now I check on him everyhour and he just is crabby.
Last night he was very crabby and wouldn't come out of his cage usually hes the first out.
He was acting frantic looking in the pouches and toys looking for her I think.
It just upset me the most how he was clinging to her body.
My friend in Edmonton 4 1/2 hrs from me said that she doesn't want her gliders anymore and is going to give them to me but I have to take her short tailed oppossum too.

Is there going to be a chance that they wont get along?
She said she thinks they are males (2) but not sure and doesn't know if they are neautered or spayed.
So I will take them to the vet too.

I want to make sure hes healthy before any more gliders come home too.
Do I take in his poop to the vet?
Whatt tests should I ask to be done.

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06/09/07 09:21 PM
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Hmmmm. May have to have all three males neutered to be able to introduce them to each other without fighting unless all are still babies.

Re: My baby passed away. [Re: Judie] #310369
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Thats what I was thinking.
I honestly dont know if Jynx is a male or female but from what I was told a Male.
I will get that all sorted out on Monday


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