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glider has a torn hole by his privet part #410664
11/04/07 03:14 PM
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my glider is attacking himself at his privet part & now it is ripped open i am not sure if he was trying to get it on with the girl & she did something to him or not. but it is a big tear & he keeps spazing out. what happen??

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410667
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I cant say what happened, but it sounds like he needs to see a vet right away before he makes it worse...

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He needs to see a vet RIGHT away. If he's inflicted the damage or not it very likely will turn into self-mutilation!!! Please get an Ecollar on this baby or wrap him in a piece of fleece burrito style and get him to the doctor!! It could very well be lift threatning.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410676
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What are you seeing torn? If it is the penis it is forked at the end. Sorry if you knew that already just trying to figure out what might be wrong. Is he bleeding?

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As already stated, this little one needs to be put into an E-Collar right away and gotten to a vet for emergency care. If you don't already have a vet for your gliders, you can try to find one via the GC Vet Database. Please keep us posted on his progress.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: sugarglidersuz] #410738
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Have you located a vet open in your area yet? Did you get the e-collar on? It's very important to have the e-collar on to preven further damage weather it was from him or her. He will likely need antibiotics to prevent infection, and pain meds to control pain and prevent SM too. They will "attack" the site of pain to try and stop it and make things worse.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: GliderLove] #410778
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no i have not got a ecollar on him. i live in avery small town i cant get him to a vet til tomorrow. it is not his penis but it is closer to his butthole.
he is still running on his wheel & being active!! i don't get it. thank all of you that reply.. i am so worried about him we just got him friday. i have owned bred & raised them before but it has been 10 years i am kind rusty!!
did he do this to himself? i put a stranger with him the first day i got him did she do this to him? i did not see them fight but i do have them seperated now.

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410781
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Where are you located, maybe someone can help? sounds like you need to find a vet now and not wait.

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: morksmom] #410784
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pittsburg texas...

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but why is he still so active?? running in his wheel & all over his cage?

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410787
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It is possible they were fighting, I believe you should quarentine a new glider for 30 days after you get him and introductions are a slow process.
He could have done it to himself. He may have been stressed from the new home (you say you got him Friday) and then a strange new cagemate too.
Also is there anything sharp or jagged, splintered wood in the cage that he could have got caught on.
I'd check the cage just to make sure.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410788
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pittsburg texas...

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but why is he still so active?? running in his wheel & all over his cage?


Has your boy been awake all day? They usually sleep all day and are active at night, that doesn't sound normal either.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Trigger] #410789
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uh yeah i know not to smart new freind & home in the same day.but its a long story they were thrown on me. the guy who gave him to me was suppose to slowly introduce the female to the male for me but circumstances beyond my control it didnt work out as planned.

iam so worried.... he looks awful & is sleeping in his food dish upside down.

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he has been awake most the day & night since friday! heis supposably 9 months old. he is tamed & well mannered. from what i have noticed so far

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410797
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Have family in Pittsburg smile
He may be really stressed out. Is there a town closer to you that you can get too before more damage is done?
Why dont you register it is free and this is a great site.

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410800
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Could it be the male is afraid to sleep in the same pouch with the new cagemate?

Little one needs to be seen by a vet ASAP.

Have you checked for a vet in your phone book? Usually when looking for a vet afterhours... the number will give you a recording of an Emer vet's number to contact for an emerg.


Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Judie] #410810
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My aunt live in MT Pleasant I have the cell # for a vet in that area not too far from you.
Dr. Scidmore 903 572-3488
I don't know if he sees exoctics but it is an emergency so any vet should do.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Trigger] #410825
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Is there bleeding? What exactly is torn? Their penis comes out of the same place as everything else, can you describe the area you are worried about? If anything is torn there is risk for SM.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Trigger] #410826
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when is she open?

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #410829
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what is sm?

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Anonymous] #410832
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I am not sure I live near Houston, my aunt lives in that area and I called her to get numbers , call his cell phone and leave a message with your phone # so he can call you back.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #410834
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it is to the right of his butthole or penis not sure what it is. but his whole underside is real wet!!

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SM is self mutilation. He will hurt himself further trying to attack the painful area.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Trigger] #410837
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how can you stop sm?

Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: Judie] #410846
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they will sleep in the same pouch but i took her out til we get him fixed all better

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Gliders can SM for a variety of reasons. If he was injured there (by catching it on something or the female doing this) and it was hurting him, he might tear at it to make it worse. Sometimes gliders will attack the site of pain, so possibly if he has a urinary tract infection or other problem going on in that area, he could have caused this damage himself. Some gliders will just do this when stressed and will always be prone to doing it.

The reason why we are concerned is that if a glider has an injury like this, particularly in the cloacal area, there is a high likelihood he will continue to tear at it and make it worse. Sometimes gliders do so much damage they have to be put to sleep.

We really don't want this to happen to your glider, so he needs to see a vet. The vet can at least give him pain medication, stitch him up (if necessary) and help you put a collar on him so he can't do any further damage. Possibly the vet and you can figure out why this happened in the first place to make sure he doesn't go after himself again.

Please get him into a vet, any vet, to at least get pain meds and get the wound closed up. From what you are describing, your glider could go downhill quite fast. Please keep us posted, our thoughts are with you hug2

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I should add...how you stop the glider from self-mutilating SHORT TERM before you get him to the vet is using an ecollar hopefully...Suz posted a link above on how to make one. This collar goes around his neck like a little satellite dish and is designed to keep him from chewing on himself further.

If you can't get the ecollar made and on him, wrap him in a towel burrito-style so he can't go after himself until you get him into a vet.

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i am gonna register after all this drama calms down. this is an awsome site

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You must get to a store and get the supplies (if you don't already have them on hand) to make an e-collar so he can't get to the area of his wound and keep attacking it (self mutilating). Here are instructions:

Will your Glider Self Mutilate/ Bourbon& Ecollar
How to Make an E-Collar

That is the only way to stop the SM. Please don't delay!

And please get him to a vet. Any vet will do in an emergency. Even if you can't get him to a glider-knowledgeable vet, please try to get him into an emergency vet's office. You can always have them call Dr. Tim Tristan in Texas (he will consult with other vets only) at 361-994-1145 if needed.

Sleeping in his food dish upside down is not a good sign. worried And neither are the wounds in that area. Please, he will continue to attack the source of his pain, causing more pain, and could die if he isn't put in an e-collar and taken to a vet for proper care.

While you're out and about, I would also get a second cage, even if it's a small bird cage with 1/2" bar spacing and pvc-coated wire, to keep the two separated. Either she or he will continue to do more damage.


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Re: glider has a torn hole by his privet part [Re: KattyM] #410870
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i have already separate them she is in a cage my mother bought for us we are keep separated until he his healed

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were making a e collar for him he his seeing a vet tomorrow
asap but i dont get out off college till 2:00
the hole is about the size of a dime we made e collar but it was too small we are4 making another one for him

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