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My HPW Making Adventure... #422199
11/24/07 05:14 AM
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I finally got around to making HPW tonight.. and since I had so many questions about it before I made it.. and couldn't come across any answers, I thought that I'd share my findings with you.

The recipe calls for:

2 cups warm water
1.5 cups honey
3 eggs
1/4 cup HPW powder
2 tablespoons bee pollen


And if you have breeding or nursing females it says to increase the HPW powder amount to a 1/2 cup. I made the original recipe.

First I'll share my purchases:

One 250g box of HPW -- $18
Two 5 lb. jugs of honey -- $20
1 lb. of bee pollen -- $15
36 eggs -- $6
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total: $59


I only made 5 batches tonight, but measured everything out so that I could breakdown what I needed and what the cost ends up being.

Some tips/info:

~~~> A 5 lb. jug of honey comes out to a total of 7 cups, leaving you a 1/2 cup short for the 5th batch. (luckily I had some leftover honey from BML).

~~~> A 250g box of HPW makes about 11.5 batches..

~~~> 1 lb. of bee pollen makes a total of 22.5 batches, so you can make two whole 250g boxes of HPW with a pound of bee pollen..

~~~> 1 batch of HPW is just short of being 5 cups.. 5 cups of mix makes 240 teaspoons, or servings of HPW.

~~~> One 250g box of HPW will make approximately 2,760 teaspoons, or servings of HPW. (there are 16 tablespoons in 1 cup and 3 teaspoons in a tablespoon.. so that means that there are 48 teaspoons in a cup.. 48 x 5 = 240... 5 cups x 11.5 batches = 57.5 cups... 57.5 cups x 48 teaspoons = 2,760 teaspoons (servings).


So if you break it down, 1 batch of HPW costs approximately $5.13 to make..

I may very well be wrong on some of these numbers, as I've confused myself quite a bit trying to figure this out. I HATE math.. lol I'm tired now too so it's not helping. tounge

If you find any mistakes please feel free to correct me. wink

**Do not try and make more than 1 batch at a time unless you have a large blender.. my blender has lines that go up to 5 cups, but it probably holds 7-8 cups.. when it is blending, the whole thing is FULL... If I had tried to double a batch I would have been OUT of luck!!**

Last edited by SugarBaby22; 11/24/07 10:20 PM. Reason: math error

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Linda that is a very nice breakdown!

The only thing I thought I saw that was off is: 1 lb. of bee pollen makes a total of 22.5 batches, so you can almost make a whole 250g box of HPW with a pound of bee pollen..

Beepollen has to make more then 1~ 250g box as the pollen makes 22.5 batchs and a box makes 11.5 batches.....So it should make 2 boxes right?

Please correct me if I am wrong???


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Wow, Linda! Do you have a LOT of suggies?? That's a whole bunch of HPW!!! shock

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Thanks for the breakdown! That information is good to know. People are always asking how much a batch ends up costing and how much it makes.


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*head explodes from mathy stuff*

So basicly, this:

One 250g box of HPW -- $18
Two 5 lb. jugs of honey -- $20
1 lb. of bee pollen -- $15
36 eggs -- $6
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total: $59

Is gonna last you some years?

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #422417
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Dave, that all depends on how many gliders you have... One box of HPW only lasts me a little over a month, but with just a couple of gliders, it would last much longer

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #422475
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Brenda ~ I knew there would be a mistake in there somewhere!! clap I'm going to correct that if it'll let me. wink

Well, my plan was to make the entire 250g box of HPW at one time, so I could have it all done and frozen as I HATE making batches so frequently... but when I saw how much it made I had to call it quits. It makes so much more than BML, I didn't realize it... but when I asked people nobody knew.. so I had to figure it out myself. lol The entire 250g box should last me almost 4 months.

If you have... (**approximate estimates**)

5 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 552 nights.
10 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 276 nights.
15 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 184 nights.
20 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 138 nights.
25 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 110 nights.

... and so on.. (just divide 2,760 by how many gliders you have)..


Laura - are you sure that a 250g box only lasts you for a little over a month? You'd have to have about 50 gliders for it to only strech that far unless all of my calculations are off?

Speaking of.. how long can this stuff be frozen for and still be considered *good*? I don't want to make so much if it's going to end up going bad. dunno


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haha I use the breeder formula, not the regular one, guess I forgot to add that tidbit in, lol.

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Quote:
Speaking of.. how long can this stuff be frozen for and still be considered *good*? I don't want to make so much if it's going to end up going bad


As long as it doesnt get freezer burned it can stay in the freezer for as long as the BML or anything else could for that matter.

Linda, you rock girl, taking the time to figure all that out. I knew it was a lot but written like that just amazed me. However, one thing, you have it down as feeding 1 teaspoon per glider, I feed 1-1/2 teaspoons per glider.
Guess now its my turn to go play with figures!! ohwell


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Yeah, well I have only 2. So I guess it would last a while

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Is the HPW for pregnant suggies?

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the breeder formula has double the HPS, which is better for breeding gliders. Most of mine are "breeders" so I use that formula for all of mine. They look great and they smell a LOT better than when they were on other diets (which is a BIG plus when you have several intact males, lol).

Several of my gliders have also been exposed to aflatoxin, and there are no grains in the diet, which puts my mind at ease as well.

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roflmao Leave it up to ME to calculate wrong.. hahaha

Peggy -- I will REcalculate it tonight after work or tomorrow sometime. I haven't fed the HPW yet because I'm waiting for my BML to run out..

All in all, it still makes a LOT.


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I guess I'm too late to edit the above post to the accurate measurements so I'm going to just add them in here.. grin

MY CORRECTION:
The HPW recipe actually states to feed each glider 1.5 teaspoons, not 1... so you can give a pair of gliders 1 tablespoon of HPW and be feeding them correctly. thumb

A 250g box of HPW will actually make about 2,070 servings instead of 2,760 servings.

If you have: (**approximate estimates**)
5 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 414 nights.
10 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 207 nights.
15 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 138 nights.
20 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 103.5 nights.
25 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 82.8 nights.

...and so on. To figure it out, divide 2,070 by the number of gliders that you have.


Another thing that I noticed is that HPW melts EXTREMELY fast!!

Tonight is the first night that my kids are getting HPW, so I'll let you know what the plates look like in the morning. I saw a few of them eating it already.. *crosses fingers*

jump Thanks for pointing out my mistakes! wave


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Plates cleared! laugh


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Linda glad to here they ate their dinner for you!

Last edited by BCChins; 11/26/07 04:03 PM.

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That is so great! Linda, thanks for doing the calculations on cost.

I love the HPW diet, and so do my gliders!

I have to do a bit more thinking about which fruits and veggies to use - so that I'm getting something like a balanced meal plan fot them. But that is really minimal ... especially since I make the fruits and veggies in batches, too, and can do that all once a month or so...


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Gliding to the top, as I see a lot of people looking for this information. ~* grin


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THANK YOU, Linda! This has been extremely helpful!


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Wow Linda.. thanks for the information!! Mods can we turn it into a sticky ??


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One more question, Linda, how many servings does one batch make?


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I made a double batch and it fed my 9 for about..25 days.

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Perfect, so a double batch would feed my 19 for 12 days and a single batch would do not quite a week. Thank you, Kathy!


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Originally Posted By: USMom
One more question, Linda, how many servings does one batch make?


One batch, of the regular, not breeder formula, should make about 240 servings.. thumb


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ok - to add to the confusion - I only have two gliders - I tried the BML and it was tedious in my opinion - just buying all the various ingredients, and it was a bit expensive - I'm a full time student and working with < or = $1600 a month.

SO. I bought 2 starter packs from Critterlove: 2 x 1/4 cup HPW, 2 tble bee pollen. That would make 112 grams of HPW. I'm trying so hard to work out the math...but I admit...I'm having...issues.

Help please? I think it will last a good long time...enough that I can only get this maybe every couple of months.
I worked out: 2070/250 = 8.28. So 112*8.28 = 927.36. That seems like a looooooot of night. And is that taking in to account the bee pollen? Mathmatically I mean?

*small cranial implosion*

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ok - I did it a different way and got the same answer - 250/112=2070/x.
therefore
250x=231,840
and
250x/250 = 231,840/250
x = 927.36

Gaw. My head hurts. I'm too old for this crappola

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Quote:
One batch, of the regular, not breeder formula, should make about 240 servings..



So if one batch makes 240 servings and you have Two batches, that would make 480 servings. You have two gliders? so that mean out of the double batch you have you would be able to feed for 240 nights. grin

240 nights = approx 8 months???


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Oh. Duh. One batch means the 1/4 cup. I was thinking 250g = one batch. See? I'm a hygienist, not a mathmetician. I can only do pharmaceutical math!!!! Not glider math!!!! Thank you for bringing an end to the madness.

Holy [censored]. We're set. So glad I went with the HPW. Easier and cheaper. smile And apparently it is great for the boys, which is the most important aspect.

I LOVE THIS WEBSITE!

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Goodness. It's only about 3 bucks a month to feed two gliders on the HPW diet. Plus the mealies, which I'm not sure how much those are, since someone gave me a whole bunch, but they can't be that much.

Really.

That is amazing.

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Dont forget the fruits and veggies and treats as well. thumb


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thumb Of course not! They love their treats. I gave them each half a pitted cherry, 3 blueberries, frozen peas, gr beans, and carrots with vitamins and calcium sprinkled, 3 mealies, and BML minus the vitamins last night. They ate UP the cherry. Tonight will by froz vegs and cantaloup and apple.
Once my mix comes in I will be feeding the HPW.

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I don't think a batch makes 240 servings. Because I have 18 gliders, and a batch doesn't last quite a week. Maybe I'm measuring something wrong, but...Hmmm...Of course, I made a double batch about 12 days ago, and I have a few days left on it, so who knows.


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You guys are soooo gonna make me go out there and make a batch and count it out arent ya?? I thought Linda already did this?? shakehead

Well since I took the week off from work I guess I *could* go out there and do it...but let me eat some lunch first.


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Waiting for Peggy to measure out the HPW and tell us her findings!
I find the same thing Shawna mine last about 6 days.

Peggy on a good note. Mr. Magoo has been at 121 grams forever and vet wanted to see a bit more weight on him well when I weighed him yesterday he weighed 130 grams! He looks real good now.


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my batch lasts about 2 1/2 weeks with 6 gliders, which is just about dead on with Shawna's numbers dunno

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Well if you all look back up....it was LINDA who came up with the figures, only because I was always too lazy to do it myself!!

I corrected her on it once, when she had the measurements wrong and she fixed it....

Linda, if you are wrong again...so help me....I will come all the way to your house and thump you on the noggin!! roflmao

(kidding of course, but you dont think I can take the blame for this one do ya? :shocked:)


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Ok I went to buy honey and I wasnt sure what to get but I know clover is ok but raw is not.. LOL I ended up buying a bottle that said Pure Raw Clover Honey. Glad I made sure to ask before I started lol!

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anyone help??


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Laurens_Babies] #456215
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What's the question, Lauren? You are right - any kind of honey, but not Raw.


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ValkyrieMome] #456217
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What she got says Pure Raw Clover Honey. I'm guessing you wouldn't want to use that since it does say Raw on the bottle.



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Lauren, we buy the Great Value (Wal-Mart Brand) Honey. It comes in a jug that is about 8 inches high or so...Maybe 3 in across and a blue label. It says Clover Honey and then something like US Grade A Pure at the bottom of the label.



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*off to wally world* Thanks Megi.


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Laurens_Babies] #456223
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Ok, I know I have read this and knew to avoid this BUT why is raw honey bad? I tried to find where I had read it before but cant find it. frown


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: GliderHappy81] #456227
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Cuz Peggy said so... lol

Honestly, I'm not sure why the raw is bad.



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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: princessmegi] #456262
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Here is what I have learned from my husband dabbling in bees/honey. Raw honey has not been heated/pastureized. Heating kills off many enzymes and impurities, botulism being one of them. Someone please correct me if I am wrong but I am thinking that there may not be enough of this harmful stuff to bother a human but since a glider is so small and delicate that we would not want to have them exposed to the bad stuff in raw honey. Just MHO here! idea

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: princessmegi] #456264
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Quote:
Cuz Peggy said so... lol


Ohhhh Megi, such a silly gal you are!! roflmao

I can assure you all that I am not the one that discovered feeding raw honey is bad.

Feeding Raw honey is dangerous due to botulism.

I know we used to have a HUGE thread about this and I believe it was Mary and Charlie that brought it to attention. thumb

After I get out of work, I will try to find it.


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: USMom] #480034
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Originally Posted By: USMom
I don't think a batch makes 240 servings. Because I have 18 gliders, and a batch doesn't last quite a week. Maybe I'm measuring something wrong, but...Hmmm...Of course, I made a double batch about 12 days ago, and I have a few days left on it, so who knows.


You guys didn't scroll down to my correction.. a REGULAR batch, not the breeder formula actually makes approximately 160 servings, not 240 servings. Peggy corrected me on how much you're actually supposed to be feeding them a night.

Let me read through my findings again and hopefully find some answers.


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: USMom] #480040
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Originally Posted By: USMom
I don't think a batch makes 240 servings. Because I have 18 gliders, and a batch doesn't last quite a week. Maybe I'm measuring something wrong, but...Hmmm...Of course, I made a double batch about 12 days ago, and I have a few days left on it, so who knows.


If you have 18 gliders and are feeding each one of them 1.5 teaspoons a night.. 1 batch should be lasting you about 8 days, almost 9 days.

Since one regular batch makes 160 servings, you divide that by your number of gliders, 18, and you come out with the number 8.88888..and so on.. so your mix is lasting you about right on the nose.

Every measurement is going to be different depending on how much is left in bowls, measuring cups, the blender, etc.


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22] #480056
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I am going to make ONE batch of HPW tonight and do the calculations.. so I can see exactly where my error was.

I did the math and 1 BATCH should make 160 SERVINGS, not 240.. but now I have confused the heck out of myself. roflmao

My new calculations go right along with how long people are saying that it lasts, give or take a day or two.
crazy

Once I figure it out, I will start a new post, so that my first post is completely correct.

Peggy, I have a spot in my kitchen for you. Bring the measuring cups, more HPW and bee pollen, and get your booty in my kitchen. grin


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #541537
05/02/08 07:26 AM
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i cant find the honey do's and dont"s, arent there certain types of honey to avoid? (starting hpw today)

ohhhh nvm!!!!!! Just saw all the about posts (DUH!)
I have Golden Blossom Honey: Genuine Natural Pure Honey.

Natural = Raw?

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Jessica, go to the store and buy any honey you want. Can even be the cheap, generic kind. Just as long as it does not say the word RAW anywhere on the jar.

You will see most of them say Pure, that is ok to get. thumb


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Srlb] #541540
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YAY! Okay smile thankssss !

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #542039
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OKay so I made it smile
It froze to the consistency of icecream.. but it melts IMMEDIATELY into a thick liquid.. is that how its supposed to be? Sorry... lol newbie

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #542058
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yup, sounds perfect wink

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one teaspoon per glider is a serving correct?
(...with fruits and veggies of course)

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1 1/2 teaspoons per glider - since you have 2 you'd feed 1 tablespoon HPW, 2 Tablespoons Veggies and 2 Tablespoons Fruits wink

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: BeckiT] #542066
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okay! and do i need to sprinkle on the calcium and vitamin powders?
(and its the same amount for joeys as it is for full growns correct?)
Thanks!!

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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #542079
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No, there is not calcium or vitamin powders to sprinkle with this diet. You can feed the joeys the same amount, they just may not eat as much as the adults.

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Lynsie] #542081
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great. thank you so much!

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ] #545037
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the boys seem to be licking up the goodness and leaving like, what appears to probably be the healthy nutrients left over.. is that normal? how can i get them to eat it all?

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Not sure what you mean by this ??? dunno


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Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Srlb] #545327
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like, in the morning, theres a crust in the bottom of their bowl... it just looks like they aren't eating the all the nutrients!!

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You might be thinking of the "aftermath" of them eating.. Gliders are sap suckers by nature so they will get all the moisture out of their food and spit the dry ingredients back out. smile


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oh okay! as long as its normal lol! thanks!

Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ValkyrieMome] #586460
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So if I make ONE batch, not using the whole 250g and so on, just following the regular recipe, how long should this last for me? Math was my worst subject, so if someone could help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it....


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2 and a half months is what I came up with with the 160 servings....is an ice cube a teaspoon? I assume not....do people just put it in a big container and freeze it? I'm thinking of swithching and since I'm new to the HPW (they're on BML), I'm not sure how all this works...


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