The only Glider that has been PROVEN to delay a embryo from developing is the FeaterTail Glider

I found that info in "GLIDERS OF AUSTRALIA - A Natural history".

I was just merely stating that to challenge a known medical fact like she did will be met with many people proving evidence.
There are way to many people on this board with many years of experience.

I would also lke to add im a member of the Marsupial Society and I own both sugar gliders and squirrel gliders. No where in the link of either the oppossum or marsupial society does it say sugar gliders can do this.

Why dont you share all you knowledge with us then.
Start your own thread and educate us all. I am sure that many of our members would love to learn if you have so much to teach.

I have provided scientific research to back up my statement!
Where as all the link provided by other members have talked about Macropods wich yes can delay, and the other 2 link said NOTHING about delay of sugar gliders

My apologies for offending anyone...

Does anything besides that one History say that a sugar glider cannot do this? Because ommission is not proof that it doesn't happen.

Where? That little blurb? Which, by the way, is against the rules on GC. You may not quote other sites.

Its not from another site
Its a book written by David Lyndenmayer.
If you want to know more about his vast knowledge I suggest you do some of your own research

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well im off to bed, I would very much like to pick this up in the morning. I hope this thread stays open, it may just teach some ppl a thing or two.

Many people have opinions and are entitled to them, but just because this author believes it can not happen, doesn't mean another will believe it can. Obviously, it can and has occured. I know in dogs they can get pregnant by 2 different males, because of the way they are physically made, so, who are we to question? Miracles are all around us, just look at your children!

Do you mean David Lindenmayer?
Correct spelling would make research easier.

I guess what I'm interested in learning most is how this has happened when it is "impossible"? What are the theories of what is actually going on when this happens? The neuter didn't take? Why don't they keep breeding and having babies then? I'm just confused. How can someone say it is not possible when it does happen? Maybe it's evolution. Or maybe that Professor Lindenmayer has just never observed it happen? If it is so rare (as we know it to be) then doesn't it make sense that he's never witnessed it? And just because he never witnessed it doesn't mean it can't physically and medically occur...

Well he has written many books. I am interested to know if there is a specific one she is referring to. Many of the possum volumes are dated several years ago.
Anyone with some glider knowledge will tell you that we are still learning about them each day.

If you are a member of the Marsupial Society and claim to know everything there is to know about sugs, then please explain why their site says to use a sock, old blanket, old sheets, etc. as a pouch in hand rearing a joey? And why is it ok to use a small safety pin to close it? Or, why it's ok to put a ring of wire around the opening to keep it open. Even if they are babies and can't move around much, they can still get hurt and caught up on stuff like this.

I have spelt his name correctly thankyou

I never said I know everything there is to know

According to this website,
http://msc.bhsu.edu/biology/bsmith/mammlec7.html

there are different reproductive variations. These are all different:

Delayed fertilization
Delayed development
Delayed implantation
Embryonic diapause


I believe, from what I have read, that what occurs in Sugar Gliders is actually Delayed implantaion, not Embryonic Diapause. Obviously, I could be wrong.

I had my boy neutered about a month ago, and now the girl has bumps, so the timing on mine is just about right... I've never had this happen. But I wouldn't say it couldn't happen, simply because God is amazing, and he can create creatures that can do things we would never dream of. That's just how I look at it.

Though you didn't "guess" this still applies. David Lindenmayer has guessed that is is "impossible" yet it happened. Not once, but 6 times in this thread alone. I'm trying to find a quote I once heard that pretty much sums it up. Something to the effect of "those who proclaim a phenomenon to be impossible is almost certainly wrong; those who say a phenomenon is possible is correct."

It is possible to have the male produce sperm for a month after neuturing but not fourteen months, I would say the father is actually the previous joey Wyatt. Wich means mother and son would have bred not mother and father

Too bad Wyatt hadn't reached sexual maturity yet...

For those looking to research the author the spelling is David Lindenmayer.

There are many many instances of gliders producing at a very young. All you need to do is look on glider forumsto see this.

Altho I have NEVER heard of gliders breeding so young in Australia, but then again ours are not inbred over and over etc

Embryonic diapause is when an embryo has been fertilized and implanted and begins to develop, but then is halted part-way through development.

Whereas, Delayed Implantation is when an embryo has been fertilized, but is not implanted right away and is delayed.

They're not? I am honestly not trying to be snippy, just very curious. I know inbreeding happens in the wild...

First of all you would have no way of knowing if gliders are in breeding in the wild unless you track every glider and that is not possible.
If gliders can breed at young ages then that would increase the chances of inbreeding in the wild.

I am still looking for which book you are referring to.

Also if you are quoting the forums as a source of breeding age then should the forums not be sufficient evidence evidence of breeding behaviors?

I'm sure that in instance after instance of gliders being found to be pregnant after the male was neutered, it is possible that maybe one or two were because of faulty neuters? If that were the case ... as previously mentioned... that pair would CONTINUE to reproduce.

But to assume that many vets in the States have repeatedly mis-neutered gliders is rather arrogant.

As previously stated, we are continuing to learn about these animals. It is not at all inconceivable that someone writing with authority several years ago has since been proven to be wrong ... due to advances in veterinary medicine, as well as increased knowledge.