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Re: veggies
[Re: Sherri]
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10/24/08 01:52 PM
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I buy an organic frozen veggie mix and put frozen in their bowl. It thaws quickly. If you do heat up, I recommend not cooking for long, as you lose some nutrients that way.
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Re: veggies
[Re: Sherri]
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10/24/08 01:56 PM
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Sherri is correct. All gliders are different.
Mine will not eat the mixed veggies that do not have the lima beans in them. They prefer Kroger's brand which does have limas so I pick out the limas Mine will also not eat them frozen, so I run hot water over them when they initially come out of the freezer and them keep them in the frig. I do not cook mine for any additional time.
Mine love sugar snap peas but refuse to eat the ones that you can get in the frozen form. Nope, mine have to have the ones from the produce section that are twice the price, and they want them raw - cut up
Mine love sweet potatoes but not raw. Those must be cooked.
As you can see, you almost need to write down their preferences
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Re: veggies
[Re: Sherri]
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10/24/08 02:43 PM
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If your gliders are picky with carrots, you might try using a potato peeler and making thin shavings for them. Dangle those in front of them, and they'll at least have fun playing with their food. You can also make sure they don't get the outer layer; no matter how clean it is, it's one more step toward cleaner food. I am blessed with non-picky eaters.
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Re: veggies
[Re: Teresa]
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10/24/08 03:56 PM
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Rhapsody
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I just peel & chop up the sweet potato before I feed it to my gliders... they love it that way.
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Re: veggies
[Re: KarenE]
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10/24/08 04:49 PM
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Mine love the frozen peas, i just put them in hot water to thaw them. They don't like the mixed veggies(carrots, green beans, peas, corn), they only eat the corn& peas. I just got some sweet potatoes to give tonight, do you think i should cook first or see if they will eat raw?
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Re: veggies
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10/24/08 05:00 PM
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I have the wally world brand mixed veggies too. Hammy eats it all, but Fuzzy and Luna. ... I find that they eat every corn kernel and pea. No green beans and no carrots. I was thinking about serving the veggies first then basic mix with yogurt tonight just to see what they do.
Ash
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Re: veggies
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10/24/08 10:38 PM
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Mine just won't eat the sweet potatoes raw. I really think they would starve first. Stubborn little stinkers.
I cut mine in small pieces and boil until tender when pierced with a fork. Mine will eat them that way.
At Thanksgiving and Christmas I add just a little butter and brown sugar for an extra special treat. Wow, they are really loud with the chirping on those nights
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Re: veggies
[Re: KarenE]
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10/25/08 02:02 AM
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Sweet Potatoes should NOT be fed raw to gliders.
Sweet potato shows trypsin inhibitor activity. That means it contains an enzyme inhibitor that blocks the action of trypsin, an enzyme that digests proteins. The trypsin inhibitor prevents the digestion of protein. Sweet potatoes with higher protein levels have more of the trypsin inhibitor. This makes raw sweet potato difficult to digest. The trypsin inhibitor is deactivated by cooking.
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Re: veggies
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10/25/08 11:38 AM
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I swear I learn something everytime I come here! Good thing mine wouldn't touch the raw sweet potato. Thanks Teresa! I use the Walmart frozen veggies too. I just put them in the bowls frozen as my kiddos eat the BML first (they like it frozen ), so by the time they get around to the veggies they are room temperature. I have noticed that they eat the grapes better if they have been frozen first! It makes them sweeter and gives the juice almost a creamy texture (when still frozen), you should try them yourself. YUMMY!
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Re: veggies
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10/25/08 12:59 PM
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Wow! I am glad I saw this thread. We just got three new glider girls, and we switched everyone over to HPW so we can feed new fruits and veggies.
Does anyone have any success with broccoli and califlower? I saw it on the safe list, but I have never offered it before.
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Re: veggies
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10/25/08 01:05 PM
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Hi, wow, three new ones, are they rescues? I don't give mine broccoli or cauliflower because they are "gassy" foods, and could cause your gliders some discomfort. Some people do offer them, but in small amounts, and I think fewer people offer cauliflower.
Linda
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Re: veggies
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10/25/08 01:51 PM
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Mine will eat just the tiny bushy tips of the broccoli, but in moderation as they are "gassy", and gliders have trouble releasing gas. LOL Don't want sore bloated babies do ya? LOL And they won't TOUCH cauliflower! I find it shriveled on the floor of the cage. Come to think of it... it really doesn't have any taste raw anyway.
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Re: veggies
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10/26/08 01:14 AM
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Sweet Potatoes should NOT be fed raw to gliders.
Sweet potato shows trypsin inhibitor activity. That means it contains an enzyme inhibitor that blocks the action of trypsin, an enzyme that digests proteins. The trypsin inhibitor prevents the digestion of protein. Sweet potatoes with higher protein levels have more of the trypsin inhibitor. This makes raw sweet potato difficult to digest. The trypsin inhibitor is deactivated by cooking. Could you please share a link on this research with the effects of trypsin inhibitors on sugar gliders? It would be very interesting reading especially as most zoos/wildlife facilities here feed raw sweet potato to their marsupials including the Taronga Zoo. Sweet corn, peas, snow peas, beans,other legumes, soy, also contain trypsin inhibitors, mostly have higher protein levels than sweet potato.These are all fed to gliders too so why is raw sweet potato any more harmful than these? Maybe the research done on it can give an answer.
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Re: veggies
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10/26/08 02:53 AM
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I swear I learn something everytime I come here! Good thing mine wouldn't touch the raw sweet potato. Thanks Teresa! I use the Walmart frozen veggies too. I just put them in the bowls frozen as my kiddos eat the BML first (they like it frozen ), so by the time they get around to the veggies they are room temperature. I have noticed that they eat the grapes better if they have been frozen first! It makes them sweeter and gives the juice almost a creamy texture (when still frozen), you should try them yourself. YUMMY! Are you using just any type of frozen veggies? Could I use frozen veggies at any grocery store?
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Re: veggies
[Re: KarenE]
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10/26/08 12:36 PM
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Sweet Potatoes should NOT be fed raw to gliders.
Sweet potato shows trypsin inhibitor activity. That means it contains an enzyme inhibitor that blocks the action of trypsin, an enzyme that digests proteins. The trypsin inhibitor prevents the digestion of protein. Sweet potatoes with higher protein levels have more of the trypsin inhibitor. This makes raw sweet potato difficult to digest. The trypsin inhibitor is deactivated by cooking. Could you please share a link on this research with the effects of trypsin inhibitors on sugar gliders? It would be very interesting reading especially as most zoos/wildlife facilities here feed raw sweet potato to their marsupials including the Taronga Zoo. Sweet corn, peas, snow peas, beans,other legumes, soy, also contain trypsin inhibitors, mostly have higher protein levels than sweet potato.These are all fed to gliders too so why is raw sweet potato any more harmful than these? Maybe the research done on it can give an answer. Teresa, as Marz has pointed out, this would be extremely important not only for the suggie owners but for others as well if you would post the link/s.
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Re: veggies
[Re: KarenE]
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10/26/08 01:49 PM
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I boil FRESH organic Sweet potatoes & Yams, cut it into pieces and place them in plastic "zip lock" bags in the freezer. When I'm preparing every night their food, I just take the amount I need, and put it in hot water for few minutes (NOT in the microwave), until they defrost. Also put in hot water any other "frozen" veggies (sweet peas, carrots, etc - always organic) that I want to give them that day. Then cut it into tiny pieces. Somedays I cut it all the same way, but others, I change the shape. And other days, I either add a little bit of Gerber Organic Apple juice or honey, over the veggies already served. That way, they can repeat the same, but makes them feel it's somehow different (mines gets bored of the same...).
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Re: veggies
[Re: Teresa]
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10/26/08 04:24 PM
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Yams and Sweet Potatoes are two different things. They are very similar in nature but there is a difference. True yams are completely toxic uncooked. Sweet potatoes have the trypsin inhibitor that is neutralized when cooked. This article discusses the differences between Yams and Sweet Potatoes. http://neocassava.blogspot.com/2007/05/sweet-potato-and-yam-differences.htmlHere is one site that tells of the different types of potatoes and tubers. And shows that they are indeed different. http://waynesword.palomar.edu/vege1.htmThis next article discusses roots tubors and such and the toxic properties of them. http://www.fao.org/docrep/T0207E/T0207E08.htm#Sweet%20potato Also, there are many foods that we eat that are from the nightshade family such as potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant and several types of chili peppers. The issue with the nightshade is in the different alkaloids found within those plants. Cooking them reduces the alkaloid content about 40-50% but does not eliminate them. There are high concentrations of these alkaloids in green potatos as well as the sprouts on the potatoes. While these alkaloids are not generally an issue to humans, some people are sensitive to them and eating them can cause agrivation to health issues for them such as joint issues such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and gout. They can also agrivate nevous system issues as well. http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62Sweet potatoes are in the nightshade family. Now I was asked where there are specific studies on gliders. Sorry, just having to go on the basis that these are potentially dangerous and "not taking the risk". It is just easier to cook the sweet potatoes before feeding them to the gliders.
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I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
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Re: veggies
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10/26/08 04:26 PM
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And here is more specific info on eggplant (since it was asked about) pay attention to the 5th paragraph... http://www.marksdailyapple.com/eggplant/
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: veggies
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10/26/08 04:54 PM
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Sweet potatoes are in the nightshade family.
You have caught me on the way out the door to work so can't have a look at the links provided till I get home tonight. However, I always thought the sweet potato is of the morning glory family rather than the nightshade family as they are only very distantly related to the regular potato. Your original post though was in regards to trypsin inhibitors and why you need to cook the sweet potatoes. Sweet corn, beans, peas and other legumes etc contain the same trypsin inhibitors and have a higher protein content so hence my original query as it peaked my interest. Anyway must fly.
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Re: veggies
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10/27/08 07:59 AM
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Most grocery stores now sell the pre-wrapped sweet potatoes ready for the microwave. LOL.. Sorry I am too cheap to buy them that way our stores have them and they go for like $2.99!! EA. I have a potatoe baker for the mic. it will hold 4 taters at a time or two sweet taters! I don't see any point in cooking them in the oven, takes WAY to long!!
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