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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: LSardou] #686708
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Originally Posted By: LSardou
As for the swelling on his cloaca, is there a chance that he might have a clogged anal gland which is causing the difficulty with retracting?


I could be mistaken, but I think the anal glands are on either side of the cloaca - so, if it were an anal gland issue, it should present as lumps on the sides, not underneath. Either way, I will be asking about it tomorrow...

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Gina...with not knowing what to say right now, just know my prayers are with you and Sekwaf. hug2


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Gina hug2 upset frown my heart is breaking while Im reading this..........Poor baby boy hug2 I'm so so sorry you and he are going thru this.....I wish I were closer so I could do something. I have no idea what that would be but I feel so helpless, and so so sad for you both. If you need anything please call me you have the number. Kiss Sekwaf and tell him Gramma Cindy loves him so much and he is such a wonderful and strong boy he will come thru with flying colors becauase he has a wonderful Mommy who loves him very much holding his hand and his heart thru this..........hugs and kisses....please call if you need anything

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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: Cora] #686825
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i do really wish that he will make it thru ok. so much seems to always be going on, it's soooooo sad.
my heart aches everytime i read about these things happening. just sit back & breath, thou. even if you don't think you will be able to do that, you must. sit, shut your eyes, & breath, from way down on out. just take a minute from this timeframe, it will help, in the long run, i promise. it did for me.best thing you could do would be to maybe call teresa(dancing), she was wonderful for me, & i know she will be for you, also.
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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: josefine] #686946
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I took Sekwaf in this morning for a progress check. Dr. Kate says he's looking better - she does not know why his cloaca looks the way it does, she said its definately possible that the silvadene is building up in there, but she doesn't know a safe way to flush it out.

He got his E-Collar off for a few minutes while we were there so that it could be cleaned while I had help to make sure he didn't go after himself while it was off. He didn't even attempt to look down there, but the collar went back on anyways - I would hate to take it off & have something happen.

He is going back for another progress check on Wednesday as he will be done with his oral meds then. I'm crossing my fingers that he will have retracted it by then & we can get rid of this stupid ecollar.

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hug2 Big big hugs Gina....hurry up Wednesday!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ] #686991
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Hi Gina,
I hope Sekwaf keeps doing better.
Ah, the stress of our little lovebugs sometimes heart

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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ozzi] #687007
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Goodness Gina, you and your boys... LOL Makes me glad I have only girl gliders. Now, the HUMAN boy... ugh!


I really really REALLY hope Sekwaf gets all better soon.

Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ] #687027
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Well I just went to put cream on it & it looked like one of the forks was all the way retracted and the other was only out a tiny bit. Of course, once I put the cream on, he stuck it out a bit more...

Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ] #687587
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You'll usually only see bumps with the anal glands if they are excessively swollen-you'd be more likely to see a protruding cloaca-as if he's about to poop, and be able to feel the glands enlarged, much sooner. Hopefully that's not the issue. Holding the glider upside down, head up, 12:00 would be toward his head, 6:00 toward the tail. The glands are at the 3:00 and 9:00 positions or close to it, and about the size when healthy of a soft grain of rice-they can be difficult to locate when healthy if you don't know what you're looking for. With Binx and Apollo you couldn't actually see the glands' position until the disease process was very advanced. I know he's on meds, but did they come up with anything in testing that would indicate infection may have spread? Also, sometimes with the glands, unless they are draining from an open abscess, only a blood test with an elevated white blood count could show something going on at all if you can't see/feel swelling or drainage with these. Swelling there could be localized irritation or infection inside the cloacal wall also.

Silvodine is not water soluble, so poop/pee wouldn't flush it for quite some time. Topically it leaves a greasy residue in fur that can take weeks to come out. If you think it may be an issue, discuss something different with your vet for keeping it moist. I'm not sure if a gentle application with a swab just inside the opening could answer this, or clean it out if it's in there, but the vet would have to be extremely careful to try it so nothing else is damaged.

Thoughts and prayers with you and your little guy, Gina!


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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: Xfilefan] #687659
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Ok, don't yell at me, but I took Sekwaf's ecollar off today. He kept getting it stuck on his water bottle & soaking himself. I had to towel dry him 3 times last night. He has been in my bra all day & has only tried to lick his penis a couple of times, but he stopped when I distracted him. He will go back in the ecollar for the night when I can't watch him.

It has been nice to let him have some mealies & decent sleep, I'm sure the break will improve his stress level too.

His penis has retracted fully a couple of times, but only stayed that way for a few minutes before making another appearance. His cloaca is still swollen, which worries me.

Jen - we are talking about a dog/cat vet working on the phone instructions of a suggie vet - I don't know how comfortable I would be with her trying to express anything. His cloaca just looks like a cone. He is still peeing & pooping normally. I can tell that the tissue is swollen because when he sticks his penis out, you can see the thickness of the cloaca wall is greater than normal - there is no redness at all though. I saw a larger portion of the damaged fork today & it has what looks like a small oval white spot on it, other than that it looks okay.

Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ] #687943
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Wasn't talking about expressing them-just you gently FEELING there-if you feel a pea sized (give or take) bump in there, or two, there may be an issue.
If you can't find them, or if you can't tell, that's okay- it may be due to swelling in the surrounding tissue, or they're just fine and some irritation, or infection trying to drain through the ducts (see Apollo's story) is what's going on.
As far as the swab, I was only talking about rubbing slightly just inside the edges inside the cloacal opening-similar to what would be done for a pouch culture but not as deep-to see if any silvodine came back on it-but not if anyone is uncomfortable doing that. If you have any doubts about the cream, go to something water soluble like KY that you know is safe.


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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: Xfilefan] #688059
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I tried switching to KY, but it only stays moist for about 20-30mins, and that just doesn't work. The silvadene is way superior at keeping the penis moist & it has looked way better since we stared using it.

I gave him a bath last night & after the bath, his cloaca went back to normal - then this morning, it started to swell a little bit again but its still better than it was. I was feeling around the outside of the cloaca during his bath & I did feel what I think were the anal glands, but they were no where near as big as peas. I'm wondering if the bath rinsed "stuff" out of there, be it cream or puss...

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Gina, I never would have thought to use the SSD cream on a prolapsed penis - thanks for letting us know that it's working better than the KY would.
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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: sugarglidersuz] #688994
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we have used the Silvodine for years with the sm's injuries, it coats the injury so that the urine and feces doesn't get in it or on it. It is also a burn salve so it also helps it heal.

Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: Bourbon] #689589
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Ok, Sekwaf just had his follow up appt - he has been keeping his penis put away more lately, but he still has the sore on the one fork, so we are continuing the Baytril & Gabapentin for another week.

He is back in the ecollar 24/7 again now except for twice a day to eat.

I have continued the baths & it has the same effect every time - the cloaca swelling is reduced within a half hour after the bath, so I have been & will continue to bath him every night as long as his cloaca continues to swell.

He's got another appt next Wednesday for a follow-up...

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Im glad to hear he's keeping is boy parts in more. I hope the "sore" gets better though. Sending good thoughts/prayers your way. (((Hugs)))


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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #689622
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Gina you are doing a good job and please give Sekwaf a mealie for me.
Do you let him visit his family at all so they do not forget each other?

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I am not letting him visit right now because I think that being around the girls during early adolesence MAY be a big part of what triggered this behavior.

Sadly, I cannot risk letting him visit until he has healed from this & probably until he has also been neutered for at least 30 days. We are making progress & I have to think about this health first.

Hopefully it won't be as difficult to re-introduce him as it was initially. If they don't accept him back into the group, he will get a new friend - for now, he is spending LOADS of time with Mommy.

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Oh Gina hug2 I just found this post. I'm so sorry that your little man has been having these problems. frown I hope everything continues to go better for him and you. I'll keep reading to find out how it's going. I'm prayin' for you guys.

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Silvadene is a prescription burn cream, you'll have to get it from your vet.

Sekwaf is doing okay, the damaged fork of his penis does not look good to me today. The part that looked like a blister/cancre sore appears to be sloughing off??? I don't know, but instead of looking like a sore, it now looks like dead skin coming off - I'm hoping it is a good thing, but who knows. The tip of the same fork is also still dark, I fear we will have to amputate it. He goes back on Wednesday for a follow-up, so we will see.

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Gina,
I am so sorry you are going through all of this, and Sekwaf too. Prayers have been going out for your little boy. I hope he gets all better soon...Pat

Hang in there. I will be checking back...
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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ozzi] #691451
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Just checking back to see how little Sekwaf is doing.
Well I hope!

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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: ozzi] #692947
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I think he's doing better - he has been retracting his penis all the way at night for about the last 3 nights. I don't know why he sticks it back out during the day, but I think its progress. The swelling in the one fork has gone down, so they both look really good right now except for the tip of the damaged fork - that tip has been dark for several days. I really can't tell if its purple or black, but the last time it turned purple, it didn't stay that way, so I am thinking that maybe its black. plus, that tip seems to be smaller, like shrunken or shriveled - I'm pretty sure its dead. He goes back to the vet on Wednesday, so I guess we'll see.

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What happens if they do have to amputate? I'm assuming they just remove the necrotic tissue. How does it heal? I mean, is it something they can stitch up or does it just heal on its own? Sorry-I have 3 males and am completely curious.


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Re: Sekwaf has hurt his penis [Re: kyro298] #694497
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Ok, we just got back from the vet - Dr. Kate does NOT think we need to amputate. Sekwaf's whole penis looks nice except for the tip of the one fork, which she thinks will slough off on it's own with no need for surgery. Sekwaf has put his penis ENTIRELY away for 6 nights in a row now, I don't know why it comes back out during the day.

He is to stay in the e-collar & continue the gabapentin as well as the Baytril until next Tuesday when we go back in for a re-check. She said the gabapentin is not only a pain med but also an anti-OCD drug - at this point, that is why she is using it. If the tip sloughs by next Tuesday, she said we will likely take him out of the ecollar & discontinue treatment.

Think good thoughts, I am exhausted!

Kyro - if they amputate, they take off the whole fork right at the base where it turns into one. They said it heals very nicely & usually heals easier & faster than a neuter. They us a laser so it cauterizes (sp?) and doesn't need any further closure. This is how it was explained to me, HTH

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clap That's wonderful news Gina! It sounds like Sekwaf is on his way to a full recovery! I will continue to send good thoughts and prayers your way.
I hope you will start to get some well deserved rest soon. hug2

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