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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #768833
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thank you, i thought he was from reading past posts abt. (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets. but i had forgot the name.
i got my first sugar glider from him in michigan at the
state fair. i didn't even know what a sugarglider was until
i seen one gliding from the father and son.i bought a female and named her sugar. thank god i didn't think his information was correct and went on line and found suncoast and through them i found this site, it is wonderful. my sugar is healthy and will be 2 yrs. old in july. i am one of the lucky ones.
she just went to the vet for her checkup yesterday and is
doing good and healthy but she is small and only weighs 66 grams. she is a very persnickity eater and is a nervous type, now i know why. my gliders are on the suncoast diet.

regards,
nancy
rocky and sugar my babies
and leah coming tomorrow from liz cant wait.
p.s. i attribute my healthy gliders to this forum and suncoast and their newsletters.

Last edited by hwh4ev; 04/22/09 11:42 AM. Reason: add p.s.

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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: hwh4ev] #768966
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i just searched Sugar Bear on google, and guess what? We are on page 3!!!!!!


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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #768969
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They may be working in association with each other, but (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets is owned by Virgil Klunder in Cape Coral, FL. Well, now he's put everything in his wifes name. But hey, they've got a 4 million dollar house for sale in FL if anyone is in the market for a little winter get away......

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #768972
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Yeah I have hard that Mike is a mill breeder too.


sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears sugar gliders are not sugar bears

Just helping the ranking. ;o)

I put a mill breeder page on my website and used the wording "sugar bear" to try & get up in the google rankings. I can't remember if I put it as a keyword though, so I'll go back & check that soon. I have been getting some hits though from google & people have emailed me questions about the mill breeders, so that's a good sign.

I wonder if Perfect Pocket Pets is calling them "sugar bear" to just sound cute like how kinkajous are also known as "honey bears". Either way, I definitely agree that it is a ploy to keep people from googling the correct term & finding out how horrible they are.

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: IowaMisty] #769016
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(PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets says they call them Sugar Bears because they are closely related to Kowala Bears (sp)

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #769024
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Originally Posted By: suggiemom
It's ABSOLUTELY worth it and has anyone edited their false Wikopedia stuff? That's just crazy.


I checked it out and it only referenced the mascot for the Post Sugar Crisp cereal.

We're in the clear on that one...

But I had to check out (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets's website... *gag* I hate it... and so sad! Misinforming people like that is super sad. frown

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Rieshu] #769029
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the only thing linking a koala to a glider is this:

Koala Bear
* Kingdom: Animalia
* Phylum: Chordata
* Class: Mammalia
* Infraclass: Marsupialia
* Order: Diprotodontia
* Family: Phascolarctidae
* Genus: Phascolarctos
* Species: Phascolarctos cinereus

Sugar Glider
* Kingdom: Animalia
* Phylum: Chordata
* Class: Mammalia
* Infraclass: Marsupialia
* Order: Diprotodontia
* Family: Petauridae
* Genus: Petaurus
* Species: P. breviceps

so i really fail how to see how they can call a sugar glider a 'sugar bear'. "a rose by any other name would still be as sweet" is my guess as to what they are trying to pull off. idiots !


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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Holly1221] #769042
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Jeff and i are sitting here alternating between laughing and being like "what the heck are these people on ?" as i read aloud stuff from Pocket Pets.

oh yes, Jeff just pointed something out to me. the whole time they're calling them 'sugar bears' no reference is made to what koala's eat or anything at all to bak up this [censored]

any1 else besides me just want to bang their heads together ??


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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #769149
04/22/09 10:53 PM
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How come when you search sugar bear you also get north American sugar BEAR associaton. www.Mynasba.org but is also mantions sugar glider.

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #769151
04/22/09 11:07 PM
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NASBA is a website that was created by Perfect Pocket Pets to act as a "organization" on the care of diets. They have gone ahead and changed all of the wording on that site to "sugar bears" as well. If you read through it there is an article to steer clear away from forums like us. It's just a way to misguide new owners into finding the correct onformation on sugar gliders.


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my cat Puma
my awesome bunny Swayzee

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #769153
04/22/09 11:13 PM
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I notice the same pictures from the GC gallery on the "(PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets" website and their supporting organization... either these pictures were submitted by supporters who are also members here, but seeing as most of the posters here don't support them, I'm assuming they're stolen. dunno

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #769155
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Originally Posted By: suggiemom
They may be working in association with each other, but PPP is owned by Virgil Klunder in Cape Coral, FL. Well, now he's put everything in his wifes name. But hey, they've got a 4 million dollar house for sale in FL if anyone is in the market for a little winter get away......


Im confused? On the website it says:

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Even though our corporate offices are in Florida, our teams of experts are located all around the country - in a variety of different time zones.


So is this "company" really owned by just 2 people?

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #769242
04/23/09 08:24 AM
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Pretty Much- it's like McDonald's...t here is a CORPORATION that owns the NAME and the LOGO but the actual RESTAURANTS are owned by FRANCHISES... that is how (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets operates... multiple people across America who buy into using the name and then get the stuff from the main corporation


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Grandsons: Trysten, Dayton, KJ & Nathyn
The Zoo: Midnight, Severe & Nala - Claude, Pixie, Tippy & Chili - Scout & Soluna, Theo & Deegie

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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #769243
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ajvs, I've noticed this trend, too- and in some cases the photo owners originally got their gliders from (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets and were "brainwashed" into the (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets stuff so they actually follwoed the advice, used the website, submitted photos, and got their supplies from (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets... avoiding the glider community altogether because (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets told them to... THEN they found GC... but the pictures are still at (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets, even though the PEOPLE and GLIDERS are now in the safer hands of GC and other forums.

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Kids: Ayla & Michael
Grandsons: Trysten, Dayton, KJ & Nathyn
The Zoo: Midnight, Severe & Nala - Claude, Pixie, Tippy & Chili - Scout & Soluna, Theo & Deegie

http://hammockhavenpetsplus.com


Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #769533
04/23/09 06:55 PM
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I just bought the domain sugar-bear.net

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Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #769552
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but I'm baffled as to why the people who go to their "sugar bear" website, they don't notice the "Got Questions about buying a sugar glider?" button.
Ahem. Repeat. Buying a sugar GLIDER. Why don't they notice this?! tant

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #769687
04/23/09 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: LabNGliderMom
Pretty Much- it's like McDonald's...t here is a CORPORATION that owns the NAME and the LOGO but the actual RESTAURANTS are owned by FRANCHISES... that is how PPP operates... multiple people across America who buy into using the name and then get the stuff from the main corporation


This is terrible! I can't believe this is even legal with live animals. cry

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: Jennifer_Maaske] #769859
04/24/09 12:43 PM
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I know that i have been doing a ton of research about sugar gliders because my hubby had one a few years ago that died of old age and i am getting him to females on sunday. Anyway sugar bear came up alot.....and several times when sugar bear bear came up so did the name sugar glider. I came across several sites that are links from many web sites that are listed here in signitures. by just doing a google search so what i would recomend you guys all do is this. Re vamp some of your web sites on care of sugar gliders/ sugar bears and Perfect Pocket Pets! That way people will ge the correct info on them and they will be able to actually get the right info. Also i am pretty sure u can post your own info on Wicki and places like do it your self and so on and so forth. Just make sure that when you do it you make sure to include as many of the common and uncommon names for sugar gliders. I would hate someone to just buy an animal just because it is fuzzy and adorable and not know how to take care of it. Thats just me though. Also if any of you post adds in serch engins i would make sure to post the names too!

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #770442
04/26/09 12:26 AM
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I found the paper that the man from the mall that had the "sugar bear" they actale state on the back In a big font size letters look on got questions section of their website and two other reputable websites ans lists [non_supported_site] and [non_supported_site].

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Pocket Pets does "franchise" by using brokers who sell in their name. They're covered under (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets licensing, etc.

Re: Sugar Bear!!!!??? I'm kinda miffed! [Re: ] #773007
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Wow I didn't think I would get this much of a response lol! I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels the way I do about this. Let's just hope people that get "sugar bears" find their way to this website


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Are you familiar with "Google bombing?"

It's how you artificially get one site above another.

You run a google search for a specific term. In our instance, "Sugar Bear." You then go through the google pages until you get to the website you want to be the top result (for our purposes, glider central) and click it and then click through several links on the website you want to be the top result. Then run ANOTHER google search for that term.

Repeat as many times as you can. Eventually, glider central would come up above any other result for "sugar bear."

It's how google works and it's been used with great success on many occasions by both vandals and people working for good causes.

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Wow thats pretty neat, didn't know that.

I can see that could cause google wars though.. People wanting their site to come up first and all.


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:rbridge: Jenna & Suge. We had a wonderful 13 years together! I miss you always and will never forget you.
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It can cause sort of a flip back and forth. And sometimes, if Google gets complaints, they'll "fix it." It's just something that is possible.

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Can someone do a wikipedia page about Perfect Pocket Pets ? I noticed they didnt have one so that could be a great way to get the info out there that they suck.

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I just bought the domain sugar-bear.net


Sweeet! Good for you!

I also think it's a good idea for all of our sites to include the term "sugar bear"...even tho we all don't like the tactics that (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets is using, we should just all follow suit...the more of our sites that have "sugar bears" in it, the more times the genuine sites show up in a search.

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