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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 12:46 PM
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Wow, she looks really small...she looks like my joeys did about 1.5 weeks before they came OOP, but they're my first joeys, and mom could've held them in for longer for all I know. I really have no experience.
I'm sure someone with more experience will be along soon! Good luck with your little one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 01:47 PM
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That baby does look awfully small, but then, so does the mom. Maybe it's just the picture of her.
Does the baby still go to the mom to nurse? I would think that this would be the most important thing to watch for.
And, by the way, Mommy has a beaitiful color to her.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 02:46 PM
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Do you have a scale? If so, weigh her. Weigh her daily to ensure she is either gaining weight or atleast maintaining weight. You may need to supliment feed her to help out mom for a while. When Duncan and Blake came oop, they each weighed only 8 grams each. Even with suplimenting, Blake didn't make it. I had to pull Duncan at a week oop because his parents totally rejected him. Please get supplies ready and keep a close watch on her that she is actually eating. Check her tummy. You will be able to see a white patch just above her pouch and off to the side. That is milk in her stomach. If she doesn't have milk (the white patch), she isn't eating. Read up on how to care for a rejected joey at this site Hand Raising a Joey and read the sticky threads also. HERE and HERE
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
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The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 03:28 PM
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Thank you Dancing...I only have Wombaroo HP and Wombaroo 80< so I will run to Petco this afternoon and get some Esbilac and read up on those links. I haven't weighed the baby by herself, but Mom and baby together weigh 60 grams. My scale only goes by 10s for grams though.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 05:22 PM
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What diet are you feeding mom? It sounds like she could use some more calories in her diet...but would need to do so in a way that doesn't throw off the ratios of the diet she is on.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 05:38 PM
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[:"green"]She is very tiny & is oop about a week earlier than normal. She can still survive, but I would recommend supplement feeding her and keeping a very close eye on her. I have had joeys oop that early that have survived, but I have also had some that did not... Really, getting her supplement fed will be crucial to her survival. Chances are that since she is wandering around on her mother so much, she is not getting enough to eat & that is why she is oop so early. You can use "Wombaroo >0.8" if you have it, but "Wombaroo <0.8" would be better; otherwise, the Esbilac will be okay. Please do read the link Teresa gave you to my page about Hand Raising A Joey. Be prepared to help this little one out & to pull her if it becomes necessary. And please keep us posted... I'll be praying for her <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 05:39 PM
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some gliders are just small. But I would try to get her more protien. I had a really small momma who had 3 sets of joeys. Each twins. Only one joey survived <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> The joey that did survive I had decided to feed Jibbet pinkies every week at least 2 times. After the last boy I retired her from breeding because I think she was just to small to handle all of it.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 06:19 PM
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I'm not an expert but maybe the joey came out small just like mommy ?
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 07:37 PM
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With my joeys, I bought the Esbilac (puppy milk) pre mixed (in a can). I then froze most of it in 1 table spoon ice cubes trays. With the joey this small and this young, I would use the Esbilac to supliment with. I can't help with the wambaroo. I'm not sure how to mix it. (what ratios) I did use some wambaroo milk replacer with Impact (colostrum replacer) and alternated feedings with the puppy milk but Duncan did better on the puppy milk. I didn't mix in the baby cereal. Logic tells me (though I have nothing to base this on) that the added cereal will make it to thick for such a young joey.
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 07:50 PM
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Mix Wombaroo = 1 part Wombaroo to 2 parts water (bottled) or pedialyte.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/08/06 09:34 PM
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This does mean the baby may be getting dehydrated. Her being so small, you really need to get her hydrated. Pedialyte mixed with the puppy replacer would help. Maybe Suz has a better idea for you but, what the pedialyte does is replace it's eletrolytes to help keep the baby hydrated....
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/09/06 10:41 AM
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I agree, good job. Hand feeding a joey is so much harder then you would think. It is emotionally challenging and exausting (waking up constantly to check on them) but in the end it is so worth it. Just know you are not alone in this. It is wonderful that Mom is/has not rejected at this point because there is so much comfort that the little one will get from mom even if she isn't getting her food from mom. Just keep an eye out and if you find the joey by itself and either crying or cold, that is the first sign of rejection. Also watch for any agressive behavior from Mom. Make sure you have the things you need at the ready.
Hang in there, you're doing great so far!
620-704-9109 Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.
I could have missed the pain But I'd of had to miss the dance
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/09/06 12:23 PM
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This is good news! Maybe Mom will take it from here, it's possible that just your couple of supplement feedings helped mom a little in catching up with her milk supply somewhat... sounds like mom wants to be the mom now!! WooHoo!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" /> I'd still keep a close eye out, and I know you will!! You may still have to supplement here and there to help mommy....
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/10/06 06:46 PM
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that is really great news. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> and adorable pics <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is this baby too small to be OOP??
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05/10/06 07:53 PM
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Wow, what a tiny little baby. You're doing so great, keep it up, you'll always have a special bond with this one!
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