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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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oh wow! I'd like to see the link!
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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I would like to see that please
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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Poor glider, did anyone reconise the business card? I wonder what mill breeder sold there... wouldn't you be able to report them to the usda? Couldn't you risk your license selling them to a illegal state?
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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02/16/08 12:56 PM
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my word................did she say she paid $400???!!!! I dont know how those kinds of vendors sleep at night. That lady looks like she would make a good glider mommy.................................I cant believe the gliders are still illegal in that state. The tropical areas I understand...........................he said its for the safety of the people that they are illegal??!!!!
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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What we do know is they guys name was Rodney that actually sold the sugar gliders and ran the booth at the expo called "Wild Creations". He handed out pamphlets from " Pocket Pets of Dallas Grand Prairie, TX". The name/phone number of Steve Larkin was on the top of her "paperwork". The company that went through on her credit card was called "Wild Creations Myrtle Beach S.C". Apparently she had contacted this Steve Larkin and was told that it was likely a man named Rodney Taylor that sold the sugar gliders at the PA expo. He said "I know Rodney and he is a very conscientious breeder and lover of Sugar Gliders." She tried to contact Rodney but never received a reply.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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So sad.. for her and Cilly. She seems like a sweetie.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEWS!!
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Jennifer, did you let her know about GC? Maybe somebody on the board can give Cilly a good home? She seems very sweet
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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02/18/08 04:39 AM
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.he said its for the safety of the people that they are illegal??!!! Yah, that really irritated me. I don't think they are a harm to anyone who is knowledgeable. But the more and more rescues I hear about I honestly do think a permit would be a good idea. As long as it was actually run with some kind of common sense and not just handed out like a fishing license. We all know how that would turn out. But at least.. I would think.. it would reduce impulse buys. I mean it would be more then.. aaawww there cute.. i want one. You would have to actually go about getting a license. As long as breeders couldn't sell them I guess.. I suppose there would always be a way around that too for them huh...
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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Aw that glider looked really sweet. It's a shame that happened, it looked like Cilly found a loving home... =(
Jenna that permit is a really neat idea. There could some sort of legal process to go through in order to sell and purchase a sugar glider. It could make it tough to find and buy one, but could weed out the impulse buyers. If only one of our members was a lawyer... (holds breath thinking someone will raise their hand)
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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That is horrible. I just met one of Steve Larkin's newest breeders. I was at a restaraunt a few wks ago and saw a man with a pouch around his neck, so I struck up conversation. He said he's a breeder of "blondies" and kept saying how much money he was going to rake in. He felt he was SUCH an expert on gliders- yet he knew NOTHING about them. He was feeding pellets and knew nothing about pouches, euaclyptus (I had just bought some and was telling him about it) and he knew nothing about toys or keeping the family lines. All he could keep saying was how rich he was going to be and how lucky he was to have met Steve.... Steve seems to be an untouchable... kinda like bin laden- he has people everywhere, kept ignorant, and brainwashed.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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This is the exact reason we are moving to Maryland instead of Philadelphia I WILL NOT GIVE UP MY BABIES!!!!! So my boyfriend has to drive a little bit further he will be alright! That law is so stupid My gliders never come in contact with anyone but me or other suggie owners and I don't see how they can be a "threat" to anyone?? What exactly is he meaning by the safety of people I have never heard of anyone dying from a sugar glider?? I don't get it
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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Jennifer, did you let her know about GC? Maybe somebody on the board can give Cilly a good home? She seems very sweet \:mlove\: I offered to make the drive to meet her daughter when she first contacted me. She really doesn't want to break the law, but she doesn't want to give up her baby. (Not that I blame her, she is really attached to Cilly, but at the same time knowing they are illegal is breaking her heart). I did send her the link to GC, but I don't know if she signed up yet.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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02/18/08 01:46 PM
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Steve Larkin is Custom Cage Works. He sells at trade shows and sells the pellets Glider Grub (which I saw on a table in the news footage about Cilly) and sells the gliders with an 18"x18"x 24" cage and says that's plenty big for 2 gliders to live their entire life in. He'll sell you a bigger cage if you want one, but his prices are rediculous. At least that's how the gliders were sold when I got my first two. Yes, I was one of those unknowing impulse buyers and now hate the fact that I helped put money in this guy's pocket. He also sold me a fold down PVC travel cage that he said the gliders would be fine in for a week or two - it was 10"x10"x10 1/2". I hope Cilly is able to find a new home, and that they will keep in contact with this poor woman who is having to give her up. She really did seem to be attached to little Cilly.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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I fail to see where, YOUR choices, where Steves fault. When he sold you the SG – he told you that this was the minimum size cage that you could use. So if you were concerned with the small size – buy bigger. As for the travel, fold down cage, he tells you that this is only to get your SG from one place to another. I’m sure that he told you that if you couldn’t take the BIG cage with you, having your SG in the travel cage, for up to two weeks would not hurt them. The travel cage was NEVER meant be you SG’s vacation home. But Steve was telling you that if your back was “against the wall” and this was your ONLY choice…it would not harm them. Again, that would be YOUR decision as to how many SG’s you pack into the accommodations that YOU are providing. When you buy from Steve, you get ALL the information that you need to get started and even his personal cell phone number, to call ANYTIME, that you have a problem or question. How many other breeders or pet stores, do you know, that you can reach ANYTIME you need them? So PLEASE explain to us – what Steve is doing wrong? I am PROUD that I bought from Steve Larkin.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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04/04/08 05:06 PM
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I only have one thing to say to your post, unless you were physically standing there when THIS glider was sold, how could you POSSIBLY KNOW what was said (unless you ARE this Steve Larkin person)? Glad you are proud, glad your babies are healthy and everything went smoothly but that is not always the case, it seems. JMHO.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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04/04/08 05:07 PM
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Did you actually read any of this thread? Because "what he's doing wrong" is stated over and over.
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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So PLEASE explain to us – what Steve is doing wrong?
Ummm... selling in an illegal state where the glider will be seized and euthanized? I would assume the seller would know this. Also, if I saw them being sold near my house, I would assume they were legal.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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04/04/08 05:56 PM
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How many other breeders or pet stores, do you know, that you can reach ANYTIME you need them? Pet stores, no - because of course, they are part of the problem, since they buy from mill breeders. breeders? Every single one I've ever purchased any animal from. With the exception of the one glider I got from a mill breeder, before I knew. Actually, the mill breeder did give me his number. He just never answered it or returned phone messages once I purchased my glider from him. Better yet- I've called and woken up people who DIDN'T sell me gliders - because I was in a panic and needed help. That is something that I don't take for granted AT ALL, however it is also something I sort of expect, now that I "know" the people here. Glider people have one another's back!
Alden "Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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When you buy from Steve, you get ALL the information that you need to get started and even his personal cell phone number, to call ANYTIME, that you have a problem or question. How many other breeders or pet stores, do you know, that you can reach ANYTIME you need them? So PLEASE explain to us – what Steve is doing wrong? I am PROUD that I bought from Steve Larkin. I fail to see how you can state that you get ALL the information you need. The diet he is pushing is not appropriate to start, if you would like to check out decent diets for a glider go to the " links" tab and look at the diets. He is selling gliders in cages that are too small, a reputable breeder WILL NOT sell you a glider if you are going to put it in a small cage. He is selling gliders in states where they are ILLEGAL. Finally I guess it doesn't matter how many phone numbers he hands out if you can't get in touch with him when there is a problem & according to the news broadcast he can't be reached. ANY good breeder will give their number in case there is a problem, the difference being a GOOD breeder will answer the phone when you call or return your call ASAP not ignore it.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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Better yet- I've called and woken up people who DIDN'T sell me gliders - because I was in a panic and needed help. That is something that I don't take for granted AT ALL, however it is also something I sort of expect, now that I "know" the people here. Glider people have one another's back!
Well said Alden....there are so many times we have come to this forum with an urgent question and always help would come.....With our last set of joeys (rejected) there were so many people both through pm and the telephone to help us it was incredible.....you can't get that just anywhere
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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How many other breeders or pet stores, do you know, that you can reach ANYTIME you need them? Hmmm... CRITTER LOVE Pet Store in Portland Texas hands out her phone number. Not only her store number, but also her cell number AND her home number...doesnt matter WHAT KIND of pet they sell there. They also INSIST that ANY animal that is purchased be taken to A REAL vet within 14 days for a wellness check and if ANYTHING at all in that time frame is found to be wrong they will cover the cost of all and any medication that is needed... Is Steve willing to do that? I didnt think so, after all if he did, how many joeys would be returned to him because they are TOO YOUNG to be away from mom and dad?? How many bills would he get for DEHYRDRATION??? So please, do NOT come on here asking how many other breeders would do that when just about every single one of them, myself included has let our clients know that we are ALWAYS available.... Please do NOT condone a person who is selling a glider in an ILLEGAL state just to make a dollar. A life, no matter if human or animal, is worth so much more than a dollar. It just amazes me, after all if these mill breeders really sold HEALTHY, OF PROPER AGE, and CORRECT INFORMATION, just how many more they would be able to sell. How instead of having a bad rep, they could have a good rep... But then again, to do that, one must CARE about the health and wellbeing of a life.
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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Wonderfully said, Peggy!!!
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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I fail to see where, YOUR choices, where Steves fault. When he sold you the SG – he told you that this was the minimum size cage that you could use. So if you were concerned with the small size – buy bigger. As for the travel, fold down cage, he tells you that this is only to get your SG from one place to another. I’m sure that he told you that if you couldn’t take the BIG cage with you, having your SG in the travel cage, for up to two weeks would not hurt them. The travel cage was NEVER meant be you SG’s vacation home. But Steve was telling you that if your back was “against the wall” and this was your ONLY choice…it would not harm them. Again, that would be YOUR decision as to how many SG’s you pack into the accommodations that YOU are providing. When you buy from Steve, you get ALL the information that you need to get started and even his personal cell phone number, to call ANYTIME, that you have a problem or question. How many other breeders or pet stores, do you know, that you can reach ANYTIME you need them? So PLEASE explain to us – what Steve is doing wrong? I am PROUD that I bought from Steve Larkin. You're proud that you bought from Steve Larkin? Wow....that isn't something we hear often...... As has been stated, whether he sold the gliders standing on his saintly cloud from heaven above, he was selling them in an illegal state and well, for most of us, that just sort of gives the illusion that his halo is a tad bit crooked.... and again, he could hand out his phone number til the angels come home and if he doesn't answer it's all just more fluff and circumstance don'tcha think?
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Re: Gliders in PA being sold at expo, made the NEW
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for 1 ILLEGAL STATE!!!! no RESPONSIBLE PERSON, breeder, ECT would ever sell in an ILLEGAL STATE!!!!!! that is nothing more than greed taking over and really goes to show he or anybody else that sells in illegal states dont give a [censored] about the animal or person!!!!!
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