Posted By: CharmedSuggies
Raw vs Processed Honey - 08/27/09 12:28 PM
I have been through 2 different threads about Honey with no response to my question.
First I feed HPW and did not realized that raw honey was suggested so i've been using store bought honey.
There are too many descrepencies between raw and processed honey. It is said raw honey is bad to use & then again it's alright, almost better than processed. WHICH IS IT???
This is from a Honey thread link that was posted on a thread saying NOT to use raw honey because it's bad for gliders because you risk the chance of botulism. This info basically says that Raw Honey is alright and pretty much better than the processed honey due to the by products it carries vs processed honey.
However, there is not one more definite answer than the other of whether or not raw honey should be used or the processed honey. I know most of the time it's what peoples' preferences are but i'm more concerned about the safety of my crew and not what I prefer.
Here's exactly what I want to know
1. Is raw honey really good/better than store bought honey?
2. If so, does it really matter if it's organic or not?
3. If you don't have a bee farm near you, where is the best place to buy raw honey?
4. What exact questions do I need to ask before buying the raw honey?
5.
If this is still possible, I want to know if it's slightly possible that, that could be a factor into gliders getting bacteria infections.
I'm only talking and asking about the honey aspect and no other ingredients and/or variables.
First I feed HPW and did not realized that raw honey was suggested so i've been using store bought honey.
There are too many descrepencies between raw and processed honey. It is said raw honey is bad to use & then again it's alright, almost better than processed. WHICH IS IT???
Originally Posted By: TWilson
Raw Honey- raw honey is rich in minerals, vitamins, antioxidant compounds and beneficial enzymes that allow for proper calcium absorption, effective carbohydrate assimilation, probotics for friendly bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract. Phytonutrients in raw honey include healthy by products such as propolis, a gummy substance full of enzymes created by bees when they add their own proteins with tree sap and other plant resins. It also has enzyme and protein packed pollen.
Commercially processed honey is honey that is heated to high temperatures to sterilize or pasteurize it. This process is unnecessary as there are no microbes in honey. The only way microbes can get into honey is from contamination by human hands after it is extracted from the comb. Even then, these microbes will immediately be destroyed by the honeys osmotic powers. When honey is commercially processed, honey is cooked and filtered by high pressure pumps until it is devoid of most of its mineral, nutrients, enzymes, antioxidants and photonutrients. When heated over 118 degrees, honey has its health benefits greatly reduced or completely eliminated.
Honey is processed commercially because WE prefer the clarity and light color that comes from processing out all what we see as impurities, when actually it is the healthy ingredients.
Remember if there are any botulinum spores in the honey, they will still be there after commercial processing that is why the disclaimer remains on the label of the processed honey. (Do not feed to infants under 1 year)
From what I am finding, raw honey is extremely beneficial in many ways and commercially processed honey only removes the “good” qualities of honey and all that is left is sugar.
The risk of botulism from honey is inconclusive due to the fact it the clostridium botulinum spores are everywhere. The spores are only harmful to persons with a compromised immune system.
Most beekeepers do heat their honey but to a temperature of less than 120 degrees but only to liquefy more for ease of extraction. They also filter it but with filters that don’t remove the beneficial ingredients, only particles of wax or bee parts. Honey processed this way is considered raw and unaltered.
Honey is commercially processed because people prefer honey to be light and clear, more pleasing to the eye.
Commercially processed honey is honey that is heated to high temperatures to sterilize or pasteurize it. This process is unnecessary as there are no microbes in honey. The only way microbes can get into honey is from contamination by human hands after it is extracted from the comb. Even then, these microbes will immediately be destroyed by the honeys osmotic powers. When honey is commercially processed, honey is cooked and filtered by high pressure pumps until it is devoid of most of its mineral, nutrients, enzymes, antioxidants and photonutrients. When heated over 118 degrees, honey has its health benefits greatly reduced or completely eliminated.
Honey is processed commercially because WE prefer the clarity and light color that comes from processing out all what we see as impurities, when actually it is the healthy ingredients.
Remember if there are any botulinum spores in the honey, they will still be there after commercial processing that is why the disclaimer remains on the label of the processed honey. (Do not feed to infants under 1 year)
From what I am finding, raw honey is extremely beneficial in many ways and commercially processed honey only removes the “good” qualities of honey and all that is left is sugar.
The risk of botulism from honey is inconclusive due to the fact it the clostridium botulinum spores are everywhere. The spores are only harmful to persons with a compromised immune system.
Most beekeepers do heat their honey but to a temperature of less than 120 degrees but only to liquefy more for ease of extraction. They also filter it but with filters that don’t remove the beneficial ingredients, only particles of wax or bee parts. Honey processed this way is considered raw and unaltered.
Honey is commercially processed because people prefer honey to be light and clear, more pleasing to the eye.
This is from a Honey thread link that was posted on a thread saying NOT to use raw honey because it's bad for gliders because you risk the chance of botulism. This info basically says that Raw Honey is alright and pretty much better than the processed honey due to the by products it carries vs processed honey.
However, there is not one more definite answer than the other of whether or not raw honey should be used or the processed honey. I know most of the time it's what peoples' preferences are but i'm more concerned about the safety of my crew and not what I prefer.
Here's exactly what I want to know
1. Is raw honey really good/better than store bought honey?
2. If so, does it really matter if it's organic or not?
3. If you don't have a bee farm near you, where is the best place to buy raw honey?
4. What exact questions do I need to ask before buying the raw honey?
5.
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Remember if there are any botulinum spores in the honey, they will still be there after commercial processing that is why the disclaimer remains on the label of the processed honey. (Do not feed to infants under 1 year)
If this is still possible, I want to know if it's slightly possible that, that could be a factor into gliders getting bacteria infections.
I'm only talking and asking about the honey aspect and no other ingredients and/or variables.