Posted By: tacasper
Genetic Defects- sterility, wiggle babies, etc. - 12/01/11 03:25 AM
I just found out a few days ago that one of my long time breeding pairs is from a sterile line When you initially look through my gliders line her lineage looks really great. She is bred out and COI is amazing! You trace all the way back and you can't see any evidence of sterility. BUT if you go all the way back to one of the founding gliders and look at all of his joeys, there is a note on one of his joeys (a sibling to my direct line) that they are from sterile producing lines. Unfortunately somewhere down the line a breeder failed to inform a buyer of this, so here we are several years later! Non-sterile mosaic, leucistic and platinum have all been introduced to this line. Fortunately I had already planned on neutering boys, and current joeys are now going to be sold as pet only, and I've notified breeding homes that joeys were placed in.
BUT my point of this post is really not to complain about how I didn't know, but to educate myself and others about know genetic problems besides some of the more obvious like sterile mosaic lines. I'm going to list what I now know and PLEASE if you know of something else list them so we can share the info and prevent problems like this from happening. Also to help newbies (or not newbies in my case, lol)looking through lineage but unaware of what to look for.
I also want to add that even if you are looking at getting or already have a gray glider, your glider can still be from these lines! If you are looking to bred then do your research on pairings. I really think it's important to keep clean lines!
So here goes:
This is the glider that I just found out about who comes from white tip lines, but also in my case was introduced to platinum, mosaic and leu He is from sterile lines. In my case they are producing.
*STERLING* he is listed in TPG as champagn colored. Only joey listed out of Chanel and Cherie.
http://www.thepetglider.com/pedigree/modules/animal/pedigree.php?pedid=580
Gliders to look for in sterile mosaics:
Sally, Ms. Leu, Lollie, Tilly, Helena, Heidi, Bianca, Ms. Kitty, Kit and Kat, Heather, Sierra, Juliet, Ribbon
Known for producing wiggle babies:
Frodo line closely bred with another Frodo line baby. He is a white face in TPG.
So that is my extent of knowledge of what lines have known defects. Can anyone add to the list?
I also want to add, I'm not saying don't breed these lines. I'm just saying that breed responsibly. I'm saddened that this line was introduced to leu, mosaic and platinum
BUT my point of this post is really not to complain about how I didn't know, but to educate myself and others about know genetic problems besides some of the more obvious like sterile mosaic lines. I'm going to list what I now know and PLEASE if you know of something else list them so we can share the info and prevent problems like this from happening. Also to help newbies (or not newbies in my case, lol)looking through lineage but unaware of what to look for.
I also want to add that even if you are looking at getting or already have a gray glider, your glider can still be from these lines! If you are looking to bred then do your research on pairings. I really think it's important to keep clean lines!
So here goes:
This is the glider that I just found out about who comes from white tip lines, but also in my case was introduced to platinum, mosaic and leu He is from sterile lines. In my case they are producing.
*STERLING* he is listed in TPG as champagn colored. Only joey listed out of Chanel and Cherie.
http://www.thepetglider.com/pedigree/modules/animal/pedigree.php?pedid=580
Gliders to look for in sterile mosaics:
Sally, Ms. Leu, Lollie, Tilly, Helena, Heidi, Bianca, Ms. Kitty, Kit and Kat, Heather, Sierra, Juliet, Ribbon
Known for producing wiggle babies:
Frodo line closely bred with another Frodo line baby. He is a white face in TPG.
So that is my extent of knowledge of what lines have known defects. Can anyone add to the list?
I also want to add, I'm not saying don't breed these lines. I'm just saying that breed responsibly. I'm saddened that this line was introduced to leu, mosaic and platinum