Posted By: Ruckus_N_Mayhem
My male is wet every time he is in his cage. Is he over grooming or something else. Please help!! 😭 - 03/15/20 01:13 PM
Where do I begin?!?! Ok, first this is my first post and I'm new to the forum. I'm a new glidder mommy and you guy don't even know how often I'm on here reading thru all your wonderful tips and tricks. I figured it was time to join the group plus I'm worried about my lil man.
So a lil back story...
I've been a suggie mom for almost a month now. I got Ruckus Feb. 26th from some people that I have know for a few years and didn't have the time to give him the attention he needed so I was more than happy to take him cause I had already been doing research and looking into getting a Joey for about 6 months. (I wanted to make sure I did all my research first lol)
Anyway I brought him home and when I got him he had already been depressed and most of his head was bald I'm assuming from over grooming because he hadn't been getting any attention for months and was depressed?! He is an older guy (9years old) and had a cage mate about 6 years ago and she died and they were never able to get him another companion. Once I brought him home he done pretty good with us. He wasn't real jumpy and seemed to get used (not bonded) to me fairly quick. Within a week he would come out to me in the morning and get into the bonding pouch willing and would snuggle up and go to sleep. He even feel asleep in my lap one morning outside of the pouch which made me feel.special. (I'll try to post a pic) I have basically devoted my life to him and making him a heathly happy lil man since I brought him home. I had been reading several post on here and talked to alot of people and everybody reccomended getting him a cage mate. I was worried at first cause he is so much old and already been on his own for so long but I spoke with a reputable breeder and she said she had the perfect lil girl for me. (Ruckus is neutered) she is a leucistic 13 month old female and was also looking for a cage mate so I picked her up the next day. (March 4th) when I got her she was a lil crabby pants lol but all I had to do was comfort her and she would calm right down. Anyway when I introduced them it was love at first sight. (I posted a pic) They immediately started grooming each other and playing. It was like she brought life back to my lil man. I was so happy for the both of them and that intro went so well. I went ahead and put them together and keep an eye on them. They snuggle when they sleep and have seemed to do well with each other from the start. We named her Mayhem! 💜
So now the problem...
It's been almost 2 weeks and I've seen improvments with Ruckus. His hair looks like it is finally coming back in on his head and overall just improvement with him. Neither of them are bonded to me but like I mentioned before Ruckus did somewhat trust me. Never crabbed or bit me since I brought him home. Always seems to stay close to me or on me when we did tent time or whenever I had him out of the pouch. I knew mayhem was gonna take time coming around cause she was very jumpy and even her own shadow scared her (literally anything that moves) she doesn't crab anymore but still a lil jumpy at times. All in all it seemed like we were on the right track. So 2 nights ago I went in to see them and hang out by the cage while they were up running around. I noticed Ruckus was soaking wet underneath (belly, legs and arms). It really worried me cause I've read they are not suppose to get wet and at this point I didn't know if he walked thru his water or what so I got him out and dried him off gently and put him back in his cage. He definitely wasn't to happy with me. I let them be and then a few hours later I went to check on them and he was soaked AGAIN!! At this point I'm confused and wondering how he is getting so wet. Looking at him I realized his skin under his fur looked a lil red and I started to wonder if he was over grooming again. But why? He also has started getting jumpy and backs away from me Instead of meeting me at the doorwhen I come to the cage (this started the day before I noticed him being wet) and it seems like we had started all back over from day one except I think he may be a lil worst as far as acting scared and being jumpy with me. I haven't changed nothing so idk what the sudden change was about but I been keeping a close eye on him. This is what I have noticed. He is only wet when he is in his cage and first comes out of his pouch for the night and seems to stay that way until I put him in the bonding pouch. I can keep him and mayhem in a bonding pouch all day and he never comes out wet like that. It's only if he is in his cage. Is something wrong or do you think he is overgrooming again. And if so why all of a sudden out of nowhere is he over grooming again? Do you think it's cause he don't like being away from me or maybe something else? But if it's that why does he act scared of me now? Between him being wet and a change in his attitude toward me IDK if I should be worried. Most times he still wants to get in the pouch with me and mayhem but sometimes he acts like he doesn't want to but she does So i don't want to stop bonding time with her but at the same time I don't want to put any stress on him. Should I continue putting him in the pouch with me during the day or just leave them both alone for a few days or just leave him alone for a few days and continue bonding time with mayhem? Is it normal for them to groom theirselves until they are that wet? Does anybody have any advice for me on what could be wrong or what I should do? It seems like because of him acting like that all of a sudden we are having a set back with bonding with mayhem cause she tends to follow his lead. She still comes out to get in the pouch with me a but usually waits for him to get in too. She likes to.get in my shirt and sleep sometimes and he doesn't so he stays in the pouch and she gets in my shirt lol She will get in and go back to sleep without him but like I said before I don't want to cause stress on him if I do seperate them. Is that a good or bad idea to do one on one bonding time with her like that or should I always have them in the pouch together?
Signed Desperate suggie mom
PS... I'm sorry I wrote a book but I wanted to make sure you knew the whole story. Also im going to post pics of my babies and pics of Ruckus bald spot on his head the day I got him and now. It does look better but now I'm worried he's gonna start going bald all over his body that is so wet. I look forward to hearing back from you guys!!
So a lil back story...
I've been a suggie mom for almost a month now. I got Ruckus Feb. 26th from some people that I have know for a few years and didn't have the time to give him the attention he needed so I was more than happy to take him cause I had already been doing research and looking into getting a Joey for about 6 months. (I wanted to make sure I did all my research first lol)
Anyway I brought him home and when I got him he had already been depressed and most of his head was bald I'm assuming from over grooming because he hadn't been getting any attention for months and was depressed?! He is an older guy (9years old) and had a cage mate about 6 years ago and she died and they were never able to get him another companion. Once I brought him home he done pretty good with us. He wasn't real jumpy and seemed to get used (not bonded) to me fairly quick. Within a week he would come out to me in the morning and get into the bonding pouch willing and would snuggle up and go to sleep. He even feel asleep in my lap one morning outside of the pouch which made me feel.special. (I'll try to post a pic) I have basically devoted my life to him and making him a heathly happy lil man since I brought him home. I had been reading several post on here and talked to alot of people and everybody reccomended getting him a cage mate. I was worried at first cause he is so much old and already been on his own for so long but I spoke with a reputable breeder and she said she had the perfect lil girl for me. (Ruckus is neutered) she is a leucistic 13 month old female and was also looking for a cage mate so I picked her up the next day. (March 4th) when I got her she was a lil crabby pants lol but all I had to do was comfort her and she would calm right down. Anyway when I introduced them it was love at first sight. (I posted a pic) They immediately started grooming each other and playing. It was like she brought life back to my lil man. I was so happy for the both of them and that intro went so well. I went ahead and put them together and keep an eye on them. They snuggle when they sleep and have seemed to do well with each other from the start. We named her Mayhem! 💜
So now the problem...
It's been almost 2 weeks and I've seen improvments with Ruckus. His hair looks like it is finally coming back in on his head and overall just improvement with him. Neither of them are bonded to me but like I mentioned before Ruckus did somewhat trust me. Never crabbed or bit me since I brought him home. Always seems to stay close to me or on me when we did tent time or whenever I had him out of the pouch. I knew mayhem was gonna take time coming around cause she was very jumpy and even her own shadow scared her (literally anything that moves) she doesn't crab anymore but still a lil jumpy at times. All in all it seemed like we were on the right track. So 2 nights ago I went in to see them and hang out by the cage while they were up running around. I noticed Ruckus was soaking wet underneath (belly, legs and arms). It really worried me cause I've read they are not suppose to get wet and at this point I didn't know if he walked thru his water or what so I got him out and dried him off gently and put him back in his cage. He definitely wasn't to happy with me. I let them be and then a few hours later I went to check on them and he was soaked AGAIN!! At this point I'm confused and wondering how he is getting so wet. Looking at him I realized his skin under his fur looked a lil red and I started to wonder if he was over grooming again. But why? He also has started getting jumpy and backs away from me Instead of meeting me at the doorwhen I come to the cage (this started the day before I noticed him being wet) and it seems like we had started all back over from day one except I think he may be a lil worst as far as acting scared and being jumpy with me. I haven't changed nothing so idk what the sudden change was about but I been keeping a close eye on him. This is what I have noticed. He is only wet when he is in his cage and first comes out of his pouch for the night and seems to stay that way until I put him in the bonding pouch. I can keep him and mayhem in a bonding pouch all day and he never comes out wet like that. It's only if he is in his cage. Is something wrong or do you think he is overgrooming again. And if so why all of a sudden out of nowhere is he over grooming again? Do you think it's cause he don't like being away from me or maybe something else? But if it's that why does he act scared of me now? Between him being wet and a change in his attitude toward me IDK if I should be worried. Most times he still wants to get in the pouch with me and mayhem but sometimes he acts like he doesn't want to but she does So i don't want to stop bonding time with her but at the same time I don't want to put any stress on him. Should I continue putting him in the pouch with me during the day or just leave them both alone for a few days or just leave him alone for a few days and continue bonding time with mayhem? Is it normal for them to groom theirselves until they are that wet? Does anybody have any advice for me on what could be wrong or what I should do? It seems like because of him acting like that all of a sudden we are having a set back with bonding with mayhem cause she tends to follow his lead. She still comes out to get in the pouch with me a but usually waits for him to get in too. She likes to.get in my shirt and sleep sometimes and he doesn't so he stays in the pouch and she gets in my shirt lol She will get in and go back to sleep without him but like I said before I don't want to cause stress on him if I do seperate them. Is that a good or bad idea to do one on one bonding time with her like that or should I always have them in the pouch together?
Signed Desperate suggie mom
PS... I'm sorry I wrote a book but I wanted to make sure you knew the whole story. Also im going to post pics of my babies and pics of Ruckus bald spot on his head the day I got him and now. It does look better but now I'm worried he's gonna start going bald all over his body that is so wet. I look forward to hearing back from you guys!!