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#100290 - 05/04/06 05:55 PM Questions about joeys...
Anonymous
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I want to be ready for my new joey when s/he comes out.

1. If it's one day oop, can I still hold them? I read that I should hold them for 5-15 minutes a day. Is this true?

2. Do they need a special diet? Is there a difference in the Joey BML than regular?

3. And momma is tamed with me so she won't mind me touching her baby right?

Thanks.
So excited!

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#100291 - 05/04/06 06:04 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
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[:"green"]Congratulations!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" />
You have every right to be excited!!! You are about to embark on one of the most rewarding experiences of having gliders (in my opinion).
1. Yes, you can hold the joey starting on the first day oop. Only for a few minutes the first few days, gradually building up the amount of time you hold them as they get older.
2. They do not need a special diet unless they get rejected and you have to hand raise them... Please check out my page on Hand Raising A Joey so you can be fully prepared "just in case" something happens...
3. Momma will not mind you touching her baby, especially if you get her used to the idea while the joey's still in pouch. When the joey gets big enough to see a definite bulge, start gently rubbing Momma's pouch so that the joey is being rubbed through Momma's pouch. Momma will get used to the idea of your handling the joey this way.
Another page you may want to read is about Breeding Sugar Gliders. I go into a lot of detail about what to expect while your glider's expecting, etc.
Congrats again!
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#100292 - 05/04/06 06:09 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
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3. Momma will not mind you touching her baby, especially if you get her used to the idea while the joey's still in pouch. When the joey gets big enough to see a definite bulge, start gently rubbing Momma's pouch so that the joey is being rubbed through Momma's pouch. Momma will get used to the idea of your handling the joey this way.


There is only one joey in there. It's definite. (yay!) It's big enough to tell! The weird thing that i didn't know is that I've been doing exactly what you just wrote. She loves when I gently tub her stomach. She just lays there as in a daydream. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" />
Thanks for you help and I definitly get myself ready!
Barbie

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#100293 - 05/04/06 06:11 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Sorry. Thanks for you help and I will definitly get myself ready!

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#100294 - 05/05/06 06:16 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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[:"green"]See, your instincts were already right on par! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
You're very welcome, I'm glad I could help out... if you have any more questions, feel free to ask away!
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#100295 - 05/05/06 05:09 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Thanks! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#100296 - 05/10/06 10:41 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Another question... Does joeys, once oop, do they still go in the pouch for any other reason? Or do they just stick their head in to drink milk? I had another question but forgot it... Oh well. I'll ask when I remember. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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#100297 - 05/10/06 01:17 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
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Mommas will allow for the joeys to go completely back in pouch until they just don't fit any more. It is very common to one day see the joeys oop and then the next day the joeys shoved back in pouch. However this only lasts for a few days to a week depending on if she had one or 2 joeys. Joeys do grow pretty fast.

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#100298 - 05/10/06 01:35 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: RSXTC]
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oh ok. Thanks. That's good to know. Before I get so exicted and then dissapointed. lol.

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#100299 - 05/10/06 09:27 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
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Another question... Sorry for bugging all of you. If the joey turns out to be a male, when or do I have to seperate him from daddy? And if it turns out to be female do I also have to seperate her? I have to wait till s/he is 8 weeks right? Thanks in advance.

Barbie

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#100300 - 05/10/06 10:24 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
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Registered: 09/10/04
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With joeys, you pretty much can safely leave them with their parents until about 4 months oop. 8 weeks is the soonest you would want to remove them from their parents. I personally feel even that is to soon in most cases and 10-12 weeks is better.

If you are wanting to keep them together as a family unit/colony, I suggest if the joey is a male, to have him neutered at 4 months oop. If the joey is a girl, you will want to have dad neutered before she is 3 months out of pouch (just to be safe that he doesn't try to breed her). Family colonies are awesome to watch their interactions with each other.
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#100301 - 05/10/06 11:50 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
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And I am sending my congrats and my own announcement that at the Utah Glider Gettogether Xfilefan confirmed that I do have twins. Pebbles and BamBam are going to be parents. No my questions will start also...what is considered oop date? Today I found them glued to mom but there heads still in pouch. Naked as all can be. I kind of figured I had twins but when I showed Jen they were both tring to get into one side of mom. Scared me to death, I thought they were falling out and I was going to lose them. Silly Stevee.

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#100302 - 05/11/06 03:16 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Happy Birthday Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 8899
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Stephen, OOP is when you see them not only outside the pouch, but detached from the nipple. They will go in and out after that, tho. And should have a bit of hair first. I'll attach a pic of Peek at 1 day OOP (closest I got for a week, lol, he was our first)...and remember his dad was big, and mom was a little thing...and as a single joey he's good sized. The hair amount is about average, though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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#100303 - 05/11/06 10:55 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Thanks. Now I want to get a camara so that I could take pics of mine.

If my joey turns out to be a male, I'm going to keep him. If it turns out to be a girl, I'm planning to give her to a dear friend of mine that, I know, will take great care of her. She's, since last year, has been dieing for a suggie and she's done all her research. Thanks for all your help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />

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#100304 - 05/12/06 12:07 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Do the dads get real protactive? BamBam bit me today when I was trying to look in the pouch...He has never bit me. It was cute, Pebbles tried to climb out of the pouch and the babys were half in half out and she about did a summer salt right off the side of the bag trying to get the babys back into the pouch. BamBam comes running up and looks like he is trying to help put them back in pouch. It was so cute.

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#100305 - 05/12/06 12:10 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Just like some moms get protective, some dads do also! I have one that once the joeys are hanging out of pouch he lunges at my every move. Once the joeys are about 5 weeks oop he stops... just like that. Kind of funny if you ask me. He is a sweet glider also when there are no joeys around.

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#100306 - 05/12/06 12:23 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: RSXTC]
Anonymous
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Thank fully she is still letting me pet her. This is so cool...my first grandkids and they are twins. As far as the BML I don;t need to worry about the Baby BML unless I have a rejected joey right? Otherwise the BML is good for all?

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#100307 - 05/12/06 04:15 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Happy Birthday Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 8899
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
It is. You're doing everything right (but I know when you're expecting joeys it suddenly seems like you always wonder if you're doing enough)...can't wait to hear the OOP date! Of course, when Monster was expecting her first, her little mom hid them from her by stuffing them back in so long, their OOP date was almost when their eyes opened, lol! One of those was my Clotho!
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#100308 - 05/15/06 01:56 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Happy Moms Day to ME...LOL. I was looking in on them today just like I have done everyday since the gathering in Salt Lake watching...and today of all days they were off the nipple for little moments and crawling around the pouch on mom and then right back to sucking the nipple but not going back into the pouch. I lifted they little tails and by the look of thing they are both males and one has a dark black stripe and the other one is slightly smaller and kind of a grey stripe. I am so EXCITED.

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#100309 - 05/15/06 01:58 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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OH and I forgot to tell you all...they were crabbing. HOW CUTE.

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#100310 - 05/15/06 05:29 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
[:"green"]Congrats on the joeys!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />
When you lifted the tails, what was your identifying factor in determining they're both males? Did you see pom-poms on both of them just above the cloaca on their belly? Or did you see something that looked like a penis? That would have been cloacal extensions (don't know if they have an actual name) that are used for the parents to stimulate the joeys to go potty - they will gradually disappear over the next two weeks. Attached is a picture of a little boy (notice the little pom-pom just above the cloaca) to use for reference.


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#100311 - 05/15/06 05:32 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
[:"green"]And here is a little girl (notice the small slit about where you'd expect a belly button to be).
The only reason I questioned them both being boys is because so many of us have made the mistake of thinking they were boys based on the cloacal extension, only to find out they're actually girls later <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />... I know I made that mistake when Mareki came oop - she's definitely a girl though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />!
Congrats again!


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#100312 - 05/15/06 05:46 AM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
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AWW!! Congratulations on your two new little men! Good luck with them!
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#100313 - 05/15/06 07:07 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Ok now you are making me secound guess...I did not see any slits like on the girl but did not notice any thing like what is pictured for the boys...probably to young right now. To me it looked like a pimple with a white worm sticking out of it...on both of them so I assumed boys and that was their penis...I don't know now. I am going to have to go look again. OK...upon closer examination the results are....Boy and Girl...one of each. I found the slit on the light grey and the one with dark black stripe has the extra pom pom above the other pieace. LOL.

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#100314 - 05/15/06 07:16 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Congrats on your joeys! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> I can't wait till mine come out! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#100315 - 05/15/06 07:22 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
[:"green"]Glad you were able to figure it out! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#100316 - 05/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Questions about joeys... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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I've just read Joey Growth and Development and I just realized that my female must be at least 5 to 6 weeks old. I haven't seen any body parts yet so I am still waiting patiently. The 5 week picture looks just like Canella except with one lump. I can't wait now!

Mobility- Movements can be seen from outside the pouch
Size- At the beginning of this stage joey will be Similar in size and shape to a peanut with its shell and will grow quite rapidly.

I've already seen the baby moving by watching closely to the pouch!

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