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#1007299 - 09/20/10 07:03 PM Nail Clipping help.
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
I posted this on The Sweet Spot as well, but as not all of you visit there..

In the almost-year that I've had my gliders, I have yet to successfully trim their nails. I know the methods -- wrap 'em like burrito, pull a limb out of the pouch, and to distract 'em with yummy treats.. but, I've never been able to actually do it. My one attempt at trying was very traumatic; they wouldn't even take a treat from me for days after it. It was definitely a setback. So, since them, the vet clips their nails... which gets pretty costly.

Tomorrow is going to be attempt two. Munch's nails are getting long, and I've noticed that he got stuck on a pouch earlier -- it's time. Tomorrow, before noon, I'm going to attempt to clip at least his nails.

I am, to say the least, nervous. Extremely nervous.

My concerns are this:
I'll hurt him. I'm concerned that I'd hurt Monk, too, but with Munch, he has that one leg that doesn't bend, so I worry more.
He'll stop breathing. Munch does not make a sound when he gets his nails clipped at the vet.. he just clamps up, to the point that his nose begins to turn colors. So, the biggest concern of mine is that he will stop breathing.
I'll cut too much of the nail.

The least of my concerns are that I'll get bit, but of course I don't want to get bit either.

So... anyone have any encouragement?
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#1007310 - 09/20/10 07:25 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
chattrbabe Offline
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Registered: 08/10/08
Posts: 4108
Loc: Phoenix AZ
The biggest thing I can give you is to not be nervous. They will pick up on that and it can stress them out more. smile

Just go at it like you know what you are doing, tell yourself everything will be fine and think of it as if his pouch depends on it! LoL!

I posted this on another thread recently.

Originally Posted By: chattrbabe
The best way I have found, to avoid injuries is:

Get a pair of angled nail clippers, like cuticle clippers or baby clippers. The smaller the better.
You will also need good light.

Put the glider in a pouch, toss in a few treats and grab a back leg. Close the pouch off around the foot and clip only the two larger nails and only the very tip, where it is clear. Do the same for the other foot.

Swap to the hands, starting with the left. Clip nail by nail, only the tip and swap hands.

Make sure to replenish treats as needed and keep a semi-firm grasp on the foot while keeping the pouch and glider close to your body. If you DO hit a vein by accident, regular baking flour or corn starch is best as it naturally helps the nail clotterize. It is okay if your glider licks it off.

Eventually, you will get used to doing nails and it will be like breathing.

Trust me, 10 - once every two weeks or as needed, is very helpful while learning nails. roflmao



When I pull a limb out, I close the pouch off around the leg or arm while using my first, second and thumb to hold the arm and the rest of my hand to hold the pouch closed. I keep the pouch very close to my body and I try to keep them under my arm. Once you get into routine, it will be like nothing for you or the glider. It will be less traumatic each time it happens. hug2
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#1007313 - 09/20/10 07:30 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
JamieInWA
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My advice is get some help. Having another person there to hold the pouch closed and then you just have to worry about holding the limb and the clippers.

YOU CAN DO IT!

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#1007314 - 09/20/10 07:30 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
Shelley
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This also good for me to hear again. I read all I can about clipping and I know I need to do it tomorrow too. I noticed today mine were getting snagged on the fleece. I have the baby clippers....

Will report back tomorrow.

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#1007315 - 09/20/10 07:31 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
nancy1202 Offline
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Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 2529
Loc: Kentucky
Just do it! grin They are sensing your tension, which will make it more difficult. I don't know about the burrito wrap - haven't tried that one! Just pouch them, toss a few mealies or yogies in the pouch, hold firmly against your body, gently pull out one limb at a time, wrap the top of the pouch around the limb, and clip away. Small angled cuticle clippers work the best for me, with the point AWAY from that little pad under their nails. Cut just the tip. You may only get a couple of nails at a time - that's OK - you can try again later. You can also let someone else hold the pouched glider while you trim.

A successful trim will build up your confidence. It can seem much more intimidating that it really is! If they twist around and you are afraid of hurting them, release the limb, let them settle, reach in and pull the foot , or a different one, out again.

Good luck! Yeah, that probably can get expensive at the vet!
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#1007316 - 09/20/10 07:32 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: ]
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: JamieInWA
My advice is get some help. Having another person there to hold the pouch closed and then you just have to worry about holding the limb and the clippers.

YOU CAN DO IT!


I wish! Boyfriend claims: "not his responsibility", and those that I live with refuse as they're more afraid that they'll hurt the gliders than I am. Looks like I'm on my own.
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#1007320 - 09/20/10 07:35 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
JamieInWA
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Well, they aren't my husband's responsibility either, but he helps me because I ask. Does he know how much you could save on vet bills if he helped and you could do it yourself?

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#1007321 - 09/20/10 07:37 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
Yes -- he doesn't think it's that much. Course..this is the man who thinks nothing of dropping hundreds of dollars on a new camera every time he misplaces his (which happens at least once a year).

I think he's just afraid of them, personally.. He doesn't like that "crabby noise they make", as he puts it.
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#1007326 - 09/20/10 07:47 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
COWGAL Offline
Glider Lover

Registered: 07/10/09
Posts: 442
Loc: USA
Do yours try to get out of the pouch when your doing it? My males do their darndest to get out, no matter how many treats I stick in the bottom..

That's what makes it hard for me lol. I'm still looking for the best way..

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#1007336 - 09/20/10 07:58 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
6102 Offline
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 272
Loc: NJ
Maybe you can file them instead of cutting. That is what I do for my one girl. She is less freaked out by it and eventually falls asleep after a couple treats while I do it. Takes a little longer then cutting them but it is worth it. She gets so stressed by the clippers.
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#1007342 - 09/20/10 08:14 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
Donnarae Offline
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Registered: 03/18/08
Posts: 907
Loc: NE Ohio
Trim nails during the day!!!!!! When they are groggy and sleepy, you can get away with a lot more.

Use a double-layer fleece pouch! Those little teeth can go through the single-layer a lot easier. The burrito hold is harder for me.

If you are right handed, use the left palm to hold the suggie still and down flat on either your leg or the table and hold the little foot in your fingers. Do this before you even pick up the clippers to get them used to the position you will have them in. Show them it isn't anything unusual and not to be afraid.

Don't stress...they pick up on that right away.
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#1007343 - 09/20/10 08:17 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: 6102]
LSardou Offline
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
I think we all can empathize with you when it comes to trimming their nails. My two babies are great about it, however, I am still as nervous today doing them as I was 6 years ago.

It just takes patience, and confidence in yourself.

It's not necessary to do all the nails at once. You can clip a couple on each foot one day, and then do a couple more another day or two later. Just practice on a couple at a time, until you feel confident.

If they get nervous, or wiggly, just stop. Wait for a few minutes or so, and then try again. It's better to take your time relaxed, than to feel pressured or rushed. They will get better for you as time passes.

You can also start massaging their feet/toes while sitting with them. This helps for them to get used to having their feet touched.

Good Luck, I know you can do it!

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#1007409 - 09/20/10 09:59 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
What I'm really having trouble with is... well, how do you pull their little limbs out of the pouch without hurting them? I worry that I'll pull too hard, or grip too tightly and hurt them.. But then, if you don't grip hard enough, you're not going to be able to trim their nails.
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#1007416 - 09/20/10 10:10 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
JamieInWA
Unregistered


You need to be firm, but gently. Does that make any sense? Maybe you can practice just doing this at first so you can feel more comfortable doing it. In the day time, take the pouch out with only one glider in it. Take out a limb and hold it there for a minute, then release. Once you see how to handle the limb, then you can add the clippers. thumb

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#1007424 - 09/20/10 10:17 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
DCMuffin Offline
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Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 28202
Loc: Washington D.C. Metro Area
Jamie gave you great advice...and I think it's a fantastic place to start! Grab a leg or arm, hold it, then let go...do this a few times. Grab a foot, massage it, hold it, rub it in your fingers....then let it go. Do this a few times so they begin to get used to you touching them that way. I actually do this with mine all the time, not for nail trimmings, just to touch them and make sure they always know I'm there.

You can do this!
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#1007427 - 09/20/10 10:18 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
josefine Offline
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Registered: 08/17/08
Posts: 2701
Loc: Perry, Iowa
i go thru a FULL tank of gas to get mine clipped. MY CHOICE.
my girls would never come to me whenever i was clipping their nails.rite when i think i am getting somewhere w/them, they need to be clipped, & i loose all their trust & love. so, i have someone else do it for me, a very good friend,unfortunately she lives almost 2 hrs away frown frown
larry has said that this winter,i am to take 'em to the vet, to save on wear & tear on the car. the vet said $13 is what he charges, so i will do it as long as it is in the winter.
now that i'm not doing it, my babies are closer to me. they don't run from me anymore. smile smile
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#1007455 - 09/20/10 11:16 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: josefine]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
I'm not sure if you have looked through any of the following links on nail clipping. If not, maybe some of these will help give you a clearer picture on some procedures.

Nail Trimming Video Link
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/75583_sugar-gliders-trimming-nails.htm


Sugarglider Suz’ Nail Trimming
http://www.suzsugargliders.com/nailtrimming.htm


BMXglider’s Nail Trimming
http://bmxglider.tripod.com/oguhandsnailsfeet.html

The Pet Sugar Glider Nail Trimming
http://www.petsugargliders.com/sgnail.php

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#1007463 - 09/20/10 11:43 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
DirtyPaws Offline
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Registered: 09/26/08
Posts: 1823
Loc: Wichita Falls, Texas
Oh I forgot about the links! I posted on TSS smile
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#1007478 - 09/21/10 12:34 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
Pockets Offline
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Registered: 01/02/00
Posts: 2092
Loc: Lone Star State
Hello Sara

I was adopted by my first Little Person in 1998 & have NEVER clipped any of my glider's nails - I personally like a little more natural approach - this way they are never clipped too short, so no problems for them climbing

My Beautiful Nails

Have had this small electric nail file for over 10 years & all you need to do is slightly touch each tiny nail - presto!
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#1007500 - 09/21/10 01:48 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: DCMuffin]
JillMarie Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 7748
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: DCMuffin
Jamie gave you great advice...and I think it's a fantastic place to start! Grab a leg or arm, hold it, then let go...do this a few times. Grab a foot, massage it, hold it, rub it in your fingers....then let it go. Do this a few times so they begin to get used to you touching them that way. I actually do this with mine all the time, not for nail trimmings, just to touch them and make sure they always know I'm there.

You can do this!


this is a great idea and really works to get them used to having their feet handles, hich is good in other situations as well, not just for trimming.
check out my video of the foot massage
http://jillmariestuff.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/show/9890810-getting-ready-for-nail-trimming

You can do it! it just needs to become routine to them and to you
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#1007529 - 09/21/10 06:10 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
culookn Offline
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Registered: 01/27/10
Posts: 403
Loc: Delaware, USA
or you can use the trim tracs in their wheels and you don't have to worry about physically trimming them.

When I have them in the pouch and they are sitting on my lap, while on the computer, I have one hand inside the pouch rubbing, petting, massaging their whole body feet & hands and my other hand is on the mouse for me. :-)
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#1007534 - 09/21/10 06:45 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: culookn]
DCMuffin Offline
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Originally Posted By: culookn
or you can use the trim tracs in their wheels and you don't have to worry about physically trimming them.


This is not always the case with Trim Trax - I know for me, it doesn't take the place of nail trimmings, it only lessens the frequency of them so it's always good practice to get your gliders used to nail care.
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#1007578 - 09/21/10 10:04 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: DCMuffin]
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: DCMuffin
Originally Posted By: culookn
or you can use the trim tracs in their wheels and you don't have to worry about physically trimming them.


This is not always the case with Trim Trax - I know for me, it doesn't take the place of nail trimmings, it only lessens the frequency of them so it's always good practice to get your gliders used to nail care.


Yep.. Same here.
Trim trax work well for Monk -- providing an extra week or so before I need to have her nails trimmed.. but Munch still requires them regularly, despite the fact that he's a wheel hog.


Edited by WintersSong (09/21/10 10:05 AM)
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#1007579 - 09/21/10 10:08 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
Okay, just waiting for the mail to arrive so I can sign for something, then up to trim his nails...

Right now, I am preparing. Breathing (lol), and watching all the videos that I can find on nail clipping.
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#1007584 - 09/21/10 10:15 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
DCMuffin Offline
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Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 28202
Loc: Washington D.C. Metro Area
LOL....relax, Sara...you'll be fine! Just take your time, get a few nails at a time if that's all you (or they) can muster! Remember..if you're stressed, your glider will feel it so take some deep breaths...do a little meditation..LOL.....then get clippin'! thumb
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#1007591 - 09/21/10 11:06 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
WintersSong Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 2294
Loc: NY
Okay.. 20 minutes or so, and 4 back nails are clipped -- 2 on each foot.. Though, 2 of the 4 were just barely.

I set up in the tent, 5 different styles of nail clippers in front of me, yoggies and worms, extra pouch, and of course, the ladybug sleeping pouch containing two sleepy gliders. Reached in, pulled out Munch, stuck him in the extra pouch, and dumped in a bunch of yoggies and mealies. He started in on some yoggies, I went to work on the back legs. First pair of clippers -- wasn't cutting smooth. Second pair, too much effort. Third pair, success, a tiny nail clipped.

His "bad" leg was easy to clip, he munched away while I was doing it -- I think because he's used to having that leg at weird angles, it doesn't bother him that it was stuck out. The other leg was a little more difficult -- he kept pulling it back in. ("No, no.. not yet. I need that.. No, you can't have your leg until I'm done.")

Front legs were VERY unsuccessful. I just couldn't get a hold of them for more than a second, which wasn't long enough to clip them. So I gave up for now, put him on the mesh of the tent to see how he climbed, and he's not getting stuck anymore..which is good. Last nights tent time had to be shortened greatly because he kept getting stuck and I was worried he would injure himself. His front nails are still long though and DO need clipping.

Tried Monk, as well... No luck there. She wasn't interested in the treats -- just wanted to play. So, we'll try her another day, as I've yet to see her get stuck on anything.
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#1007809 - 09/21/10 08:21 PM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
randine
Unregistered


Could you try doing them during the day when they are not as active? I would think maybe that might help. I am getting a pair of clippers now and going to be attempting some nail clipping very soon as well.

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#1011646 - 10/01/10 04:55 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
Rochelle22
Unregistered


My Lilo wont have anything to do with getting her nails trimmed but its gotten to the point that she is sticking on EVERYTHING! I have the trim tracks in her Wodent wheel but she wants nothing to do with that either. My boyfriend tries to help me but alas, we have no luck. She fights us tooth and nail, Literally. What makes it 10 times harder is she hasnt bonded to me yet so what little trust she has given me its completely erased when finish with the struggle. She bites hard anytime I try to grab he out of her pouch when usually I can coax her out slowly. She doesnt like Mealies or yogies so thats another chanllenge to get her mind off what Im trying to do... Sigh.... Weve tried the burrito method and the pouch method.

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#1011651 - 10/01/10 05:38 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Registered: 07/31/09
Posts: 13454
Loc: South Africa
Sometimes when it's hard to get those nails clipped and you are not bonded with them, you don't have to do all the nails at once, do one or two a day. This way the stress is less on them.

I am very lucky, almost all my gliders love it when their nails get trimmed. I show them the clippers and they just sit on my lap or hubby's shoulder and let me hold their little hands and clip away.
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#1011700 - 10/01/10 09:05 AM Re: Nail Clipping help. [Re: WintersSong]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 13744
Loc: Vincennes, IN, USA
I keep 3 good sized, all natural, aged (at least three months), apple branches (12" long by 6-10" diameter) with the bark still attached, in each cage. They love chewing on it and it helps keep their nails trimmed naturally.

When I do trim or file nails, I do only the nails that need it. I do not do all of their nails at once. If one nail is catching or looks ragged, that's the nail that gets trimmed or filed.

Most rescues I get in, do need all of their nails trimmed, because they haven't had any way to naturally keep them trimmed, such as trim trax or branches, or they haven't had their nails ever trimmed. After the first time tho, I only take care of the nail that's catching or ragged.

I feel this way lessens their chances of falling from having all of their nails dulled.
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