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#1037039 - 12/06/10 06:07 AM Off to the vet with a broken tail today
hpyhwn2003 Offline
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When I got home yesterday from the Christmas gathering I did a quick head check then later that when feeding around 9p I did a longer check on my gliders and found that one of my 6 month old joeys had a broken tail. Hubby had been running home to feed and care for gliders over the weekend and he said that there were no injuries on Saturday when he had come home to feed at 8p. So sometime over night Chuckles' tail got caught in his wodent wheel. I have the pvc safety guard on my wheels and have never had this happen before and of course on Sunday night there are no vets open so needless to say I paniced and was on the phone with Bourbon. With her help I got him stableized to make it thru the night and settled into a hospital cage by my bed for the night. Thank goodness Chuckles didn't attack his tail over Saturday night and make the injury worse then it already was. I didn't get much sleep last night and I'm up early checking on Chuckles. He's doing okay this morning, thank goodness he didn't mess with his tail again last night so I'm off to the vet in Quincy, IL today. Pray for Chuckles as it looks like he'll have to have about 1 and a half inches of his tail amputated today.

This is how he looks this morning.


This is his tail.
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#1037040 - 12/06/10 06:28 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Oh Elena! I'm so sorry! Thank goodness he didn't SM! I had a rescue (Riley) brought to me the same way. Surgery was as smooth as glass and he healed quickly.

Please keep us updated!
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#1037044 - 12/06/10 07:11 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
lovely1inred
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Oh no!!!! Poor Chuckles! I'm glad you checked everyone over and saw the injury quickly. I bet he will be right as rain in a few days, let me know if I can help.

For new glider owners - this is a perfect example of why Wodent wheels are not the best thing in your cage. I've seen Elena's facility, and her wheels and they are clean, but this little boy's tail still got stuck. If you can afford a better wheel, by all means, get one!

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#1037046 - 12/06/10 07:33 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Rubym Offline
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Registered: 11/18/10
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Good luck to Chuckles. Im sure he will be a bouncing baby boy again in no time.


Edited by Rubym (12/06/10 07:34 AM)
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#1037057 - 12/06/10 08:16 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
eterrell84 Offline
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Registered: 11/19/09
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so he broke it in a wodent wheel? that scares me! i have two in my cage! soory about chuckles!!!! hope he heals fast!
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#1037098 - 12/06/10 12:13 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Janie Offline
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Hope he feels better soon!
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#1037101 - 12/06/10 12:21 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Dancing Offline
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Registered: 09/10/04
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Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
Elena, I'm so sorry about Chuckles tail!


Folks...wodent wheels are NOT SAFE FOR GLIDERS. Chuckles was LUCKY that his tail is ONLY broken. Wodent wheels, EVEN WITH THE GUARD in place have DEGLOVED glider's tails. They have ripped tails OFF gliders and they have caused the DEATH of gliders.

They are NOT SAFE!
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#1037104 - 12/06/10 12:31 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
DCMuffin Offline
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Registered: 03/21/10
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I agree....1,000%!!! If you're able to upgrade to another wheel, please do so! This is a prime example - Elena takes excellent care of her gliders and cages, yet it still happened.

Elena...I'm so sorry to hear about little Chuckles. Please give us an update as soon as you can! I'll be thinking about you! hug2
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#1037138 - 12/06/10 02:05 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
NavyChiefWife
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Poor little man! I'm glad you were a good mommy and checked on him! I hope his recovery goes smooth and very fast. Keep us updated on how he's doing!


As for those wheels.....I have one of them but I don't let my gliders use it anymore because my Stewie almost got hurt on it. I am trying to decide on what wheel to get now. I did have the wodent wheel in my glider playroom for supervised play with it, but I no longer feel safe letting them use it even when I'm watching closely. Watching them while they use the wodent wheel will NOT prevent an accident. I sat there and watched as my baby almost got hurt! I got lucky that time. I'm not going to risk it again. Any suggestions on which wheel to get would be wonderful. I would like one that is safe, quiet, and not super hard to clean. I know there are a few different wheels out there. Which one is the best?

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#1037139 - 12/06/10 02:07 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
snowbabygliders Offline
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i really think the stealth is the best. I have those in all cages and two custom cruisers. wink
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#1037163 - 12/06/10 03:04 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
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Chuckles came through surgery well and is in a shotglass e-collar. We managed to get it on him BEFORE he woke up from the anestetic. He's not happy about it, but is settled comfortably in his pouch on his way home with Mommy.
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#1037164 - 12/06/10 03:08 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
snowbabygliders Offline
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glad everything went ok wink keep us updated smile
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#1037167 - 12/06/10 03:13 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Mastiff_Mama Offline
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Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 917
Loc: Missouri
Glad he is ok. We were just having a discussion abotu this at the gathering. I just wish it didnt hit so close to home. I know Elena takes great care of her facility.

Thanks to the wonderful gathering she hosted, I was able to replace my last Wodent Wheel. I felt so relieved to know it would be gone. That has been the one main concern is having a Wodent left.
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#1037171 - 12/06/10 03:30 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Sarah2880 Offline
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Loc: Charlotte NC
Aww I am glad he is okay!
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#1037174 - 12/06/10 03:38 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: Mastiff_Mama]
Jos Offline
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Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 211
Loc: La Crosse, WI
My boyfriend wanted to buy me a wodent wheel for my twins... after reading horror stories I went ABSOLUTELY not. So I got a TGI on the way. I wanted a Stealth but I'll get one of those later.
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#1037301 - 12/06/10 10:48 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
hpyhwn2003 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/09
Posts: 3636
Loc: In paradise
Sorry it took me a bit to get on and update everyone. But before I do that I've someone special to thank.

Chris (glidrz5) I want to thank you for your support today. You are truely my calm front during my glider storms. Let me not forget to thank you for bringing the items needed to make this modified ecollar. She went to Staples and got the report folder and other items needed to make the ecollar before I arrived in Quincy, because I had brought the satlelite with me instead of the shot glass. She brought everything right down to the instructions, marker, and scissors. Then she even helped me make the collar. We finished it right in time as the nurse came to get us to go put it on Chuckles the exact moment we finished. She even stood guard on one end of the table as Chuckles did some amazing popcorn moves when he woke up trying to get out of the collar.

To everyone else thanks for the prayers because as Chris updated Chuckles came thru the surgery and into a modified, wider then the normal, shot glass ecollar just fine. He is now settled in his hospital cage and very droopy still from the meds. But I can tell he's doing okay. He's not hungry and will only drink a few licks of water. He's more interested in getting out of the collar than anything else at the moment. I'm gonna try and feed him again in an hour or so. Maybe he'll feel up to eating more then. I will have his cage right next to my bed tonight and over the next 2 weeks or so he'll be right in the same room as me under my watchful eye.
Just so everyone knows;
Yes, Chuckles was hurt in a wodent wheel. And yes I have the guards in place. The wheels were just washed and oiled last week Thursday so they should not have been sticky or junky. And yet Chuckles' tail was still caught and broken. Chuckles and I are very blessed that he wasn't hurt worse then he was.
It's weird because over the last 2 months or so Dancing and I have been checking into ideas on how to get my wheels modified to make them safer and then this happened. I will be slowly replacing my wheels with safer ones as I get the funds to do so. I only wish I were able to replace them all right now but that's just not possible. I'm tempted to take the wheels out of all of my cages but gliders need to run and these are the only wheels that I have so I've no choice but to leave them in for the time being.
I've after surgury photos to share too.

The stiches on the tip of his tail.


Hanging out with mom.


Dr. Sue had to take off almost 2 inches of his tail.
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#1037305 - 12/06/10 11:05 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Cora Offline
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Thank Goodness he is doing OK. Hope he continues to improve. As for the wheels guess ya have to ask yourself if the vet bills are cheaper than replacing wheels. I would at this point have no wheels than the chance of another tail injury JMHO.. (((((HUGS)))) Glad Chris was there for ya!
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#1037340 - 12/07/10 03:06 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Meg_n_Von Offline
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Glad he's doing good now... smile
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#1037367 - 12/07/10 07:40 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
lovely1inred
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So glad he got through the surgery so well! I've got an idea on the wheels, actually, for a modification instead of complete do-over.

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#1037390 - 12/07/10 08:41 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Lisa21F Offline
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Registered: 08/25/10
Posts: 192
Loc: Northern, NJ
OMG! I'm so sorry for your little one! I'm sure he'll be just fine, but how unfortunate.

I had a wodent wheel in my smaller cage that I'm swapping gliders as I'm in process of "Intro-ing" & a stealth in my large cage.

After reading this the wodent went right in the garbage! I'm not taking any chances!
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#1037397 - 12/07/10 08:56 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
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So glad to hear the surgery went well! I've been thinking about both of you!
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#1037405 - 12/07/10 09:13 AM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Rubym Offline
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I am so glad that he came through surgery fine and is doing good. Prayers will be said for a speedy recovery!!!I just got my stealth wheel ordered. I wont be using wheel I have after it comes. Id go ahead and take it out but Manu has this habbit of acting out when I take his wheel away.
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#1037483 - 12/07/10 12:38 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
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Chuckles Update:
He's eating today! Still won't drink much water but I've watered down some apple juice and he thinks it's the bomb. *giggle* I even got a couple of hours of sleep when Chuck spelled me at 5am til when he work me before he left for work at 7am. And he's currently sleeping off an early lunch right now. I wish I could say that he was okay about the ecollar but he's not. He hates it and gets lots of exercise trying to get it off. He took his yogurt mixed meds this morning like a good boy. They seem to be helping because he doesn't act like he's in any pain esp. when he's trying to get out of the collar.
Cora~ *tears in my eyes* BELIEVE me when I say if I could replace the wheels or just throw them out I would instantly! But I educate that gliders NEED the exercise and MUST have a wheel because it's true. My heart is breaking thinking of the possibilities of what can happen until I can get it done. I have a 18 cages between my own gliders and their joeys along with those that I'm helping find new homes. I will replace the wheels but I've got to work out the funds to even get the first one at about $40 each. I have a vet fund, and thank God I did, but once spent it's hard to refund it. Since reading your post I keep asking myself should I spend the money and get a few wheels? But what if another glider has an accident or gets sick and I don't have the money then to help them? Ugh *Tears streaming down my face* What do I do? I need another HUG!
Jessica~ You, Chuck and I need to talk for sure! I'm all for working with what I have if we can make them safer. And if doing it myself will cost less then $450-720. Please call me when you have time to talk.
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#1037499 - 12/07/10 01:35 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
fox0r Offline
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I'm so sorry this happened, but I'm glad to hear he's doing better.

I hope you can figure out something with the wheels. I have a Wodent with the axle guard on it too, and I really want to mash the buy button on a new, safer wheel too!
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#1037505 - 12/07/10 01:52 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Jos Offline
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Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 211
Loc: La Crosse, WI
Hey...

I can't really do much right this second. BUT... next week, which is payweek, I'd like to help you get at least one new wheel... I wanna help you out. So next week... I'll contact you to get your mailing addy so I can send you a stealth wheel!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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#1037508 - 12/07/10 01:55 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
Dancing Offline
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Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
Elena, Joe and I are still brainstorming to figure out how to change over your wheels so they are safe.

Are any of your wheels "bucket lid" types? The issue we ran into with the Wodents was the track would not FIT into the rims of the wodent. Changing over to a bearing system (instead of the center bar system) isn't the problem, it is how to attach the track.
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#1037551 - 12/07/10 02:39 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: Jos]
Kozi Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Jos
Hey...

I can't really do much right this second. BUT... next week, which is payweek, I'd like to help you get at least one new wheel... I wanna help you out. So next week... I'll contact you to get your mailing addy so I can send you a stealth wheel!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!


You're way too sweet! I'm so happy our little twins have such a great mommy now! x3 <3


Edited by Kozi (12/07/10 02:39 PM)
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#1037554 - 12/07/10 02:44 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: Jos]
hpyhwn2003 Offline
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Posts: 3636
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Originally Posted By: Jos
Hey...

I can't really do much right this second. BUT... next week, which is payweek, I'd like to help you get at least one new wheel... I wanna help you out. So next week... I'll contact you to get your mailing addy so I can send you a stealth wheel!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Thank you for wanting to help. You are too kind.

Dancing I was thinking of just using the same track and removing the axel to a bearing system. Think that would work if maybe the sides were zip tied on? Or how about the stuff we use for the pvc cage frames? Tho I know the wheels wouldn't be fun to clean with the closed track the wheel would be safer then it is with the axel and that's what is best for the babies so that's all I want.
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#1037604 - 12/07/10 04:46 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: Dancing]
lovely1inred
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Originally Posted By: Dancing
Elena, Joe and I are still brainstorming to figure out how to change over your wheels so they are safe.

Are any of your wheels "bucket lid" types? The issue we ran into with the Wodents was the track would not FIT into the rims of the wodent. Changing over to a bearing system (instead of the center bar system) isn't the problem, it is how to attach the track.


You read my mind Dancing!!! I was sitting at work drawing sketches of how to switch to the bearing and kept saying "but how do we keep the front on then?" I wish the directions for the floppy wheel were still on GC!!!!! I don't think any glider died from the minute amount of glue used on it.

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#1037634 - 12/07/10 05:54 PM Re: Off to the vet with a broken tail today [Re: hpyhwn2003]
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Floppy wheel? Never heard of it.
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