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#1038837 - 12/10/10 01:29 PM Is James a Black Beauty?!
HagridsHut Offline
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I stink at distinguishing Black Beauties from Classic Greys! confused Please take a peek at my little guy and give me your opinions on whether or not he would be considered a BB. thanks -Alicia




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#1038842 - 12/10/10 01:32 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Mastiff_Mama Offline
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I totally stink too, but dont black beauties have a dark chest or belly? I honestly dont know. I was having trouble telling if 6 week old joeys were WF or standard. CRAZY
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#1038849 - 12/10/10 01:37 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Mastiff_Mama]
HagridsHut Offline
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I honestly don't know! cry He's just SO much darker than any of our other Greys, and his markings are darkening even further with age. I wonder if that's typical of a BB? dunno -Alicia
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#1038856 - 12/10/10 01:42 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Dancing Offline
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Yes, from those photos, I'd say without a doubt that he is.

He has such bold and thick markings on his face, arms and hands. Very stunning boy you have there!
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#1038864 - 12/10/10 01:45 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
HagridsHut Offline
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I know!! Isn't he just gorgeous?! agree And, to top it all off, he's the sweetest little booger EVER!! Lucky me!! grin

Thanks for your opinion, Teresa! -Alicia
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#1038889 - 12/10/10 02:00 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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No. He is not a black beauty. His markings are not dark or distinct enough.

Sorry! He's a beautiful classic grey though!

People in general are not good at distinguishing. When you have a TRUE BB. There is not doubt in your mind.


Edited by Glide_Bye_Lily (12/10/10 02:02 PM)
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#1038890 - 12/10/10 02:01 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Meg_n_Von Offline
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He looks like a BB to me. He has some of the same markings my BB girl has... smile
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#1038900 - 12/10/10 02:06 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Meg_n_Von]
HagridsHut Offline
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Yikes! We have some disagreement about his classification. Hmmm...what to do! Does anyone else have an opinion?! -Alicia
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#1038906 - 12/10/10 02:13 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders.
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#1038908 - 12/10/10 02:13 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Mastiff_Mama Offline
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Since I have always wondered about my 2 females, I will take pictures of them tonight and we can compare... maybe we will both learn something new about BB smile
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#1038912 - 12/10/10 02:15 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
HagridsHut Offline
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"Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders."

Yes, please!! ...pm-ing you now!! -Alicia
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#1038913 - 12/10/10 02:16 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Mastiff_Mama]
HagridsHut Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mastiff_Mama
Since I have always wondered about my 2 females, I will take pictures of them tonight and we can compare... maybe we will both learn something new about BB smile


That would be GREAT!! thanks -Alicia
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#1038915 - 12/10/10 02:22 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
xSwtxSugaX Offline
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His markings are very dark, but dont most BBs have very thick very dark markings around the eyes and down the forehead and almost like a strap from the ear to the eye? It looks like he could be but his markings arnt as thick as most ive seen. Maybe he has a small percentage of BB in him. All that matters is hes a handsome fella!!!
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#1038916 - 12/10/10 02:23 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
oakley Offline
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I'm of the opinion that they are all shades of gray. There aren't two classes: BB or Gray. Instead, there are many shades, some darker, some lighter, and every shade in between. That being said, drawing the "line" can be difficult. Here are a few of my darker guys for reference:

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#1038918 - 12/10/10 02:26 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
Mastiff_Mama Offline
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That 3rd pic is the cutest!
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#1038921 - 12/10/10 02:29 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
oakley Offline
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On a side note, I also do not think that BB is a specific color like WF is. I think it is like light vs dark brown hair. That being said, I do think that two darker gliders will produce darker joeys and that two lighter ones will produce lighter joeys, but they are all still a type of gray wink
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#1038924 - 12/10/10 02:31 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
oakley Offline
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Yeah, she passed out smile
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#1038929 - 12/10/10 02:40 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
wildlifeangel Offline
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I have also had trouble with the distinguishing... and to make matters worse, I have a pair that facially LOOKS like BB... but the rest of the body is standard, so they aren't considered BB... and their joeys are the same as them:
Adam

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Duke (their last joey)
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#1038940 - 12/10/10 03:04 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: wildlifeangel]
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Wow thats crazy! They def look like BBs. There adorable! All of them! I want to get my boyfriend a BB some day as a gift. we have a standard grey now, and a wfb on the way. But he really wants a boy. Maybe ill get him a BB boy some day! There gorgeous! grin
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#1038943 - 12/10/10 03:10 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: wildlifeangel]
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Nadine- What is your opinion on James ... yay or nay? -Alicia
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#1038946 - 12/10/10 03:12 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: oakley]
HagridsHut Offline
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Originally Posted By: oakley
On a side note, I also do not think that BB is a specific color like WF is. I think it is like light vs dark brown hair. That being said, I do think that two darker gliders will produce darker joeys and that two lighter ones will produce lighter joeys, but they are all still a type of gray wink


Meghan- I actually agree with you 100%! However, the lineage database does distinguish between Classic Grey and Black Beauty, so I'm trying to be as accurate as possible when listing classifications. -Alicia
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#1038948 - 12/10/10 03:25 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
wildlifeangel Offline
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hun... I'm not sure. I want to say that he isn't... like mine... but I always have trouble too!
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#1038952 - 12/10/10 03:31 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
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You can see loads of BB and Standard pics here - Color Variations - for comparison. smile
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#1038967 - 12/10/10 03:50 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Meg_n_Von]
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I think I'm going to take the easy way out and just classify him as a Classic Grey! I've looked at those photos FOREVER and am even more confused now than when I started! Oi!! tant This is maddening!!

And, here I was hoping to be able to add a new little gremlin to my sig!! cry -Alicia
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#1038970 - 12/10/10 03:55 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
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he really looks like a gorgeous darker classic grey to me. I really think if you have a BB there is no doubt in your mind. If in doubt, i say classic grey. he is gorgeous BTW!~ cloud9
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#1038973 - 12/10/10 03:57 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
glidermom71 Offline
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I wasn't sure what my joeys were until I went to a gathering and was told that mine are BB's. I have been told that BB's have a Grey underbelly, and that the stripe from the back goes to the nose and around the nose. With that being said and looking at the pictures, I don't think that he is a BB. Looks more like a darker colored standard Grey to me.
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#1039061 - 12/10/10 07:08 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
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Honestly I would say black beauty.
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#1039075 - 12/10/10 08:00 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
gliderma Offline
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I would say he is a beautiful grey glider. I am under the impression that the characteristics for a BB are black knuckles, dark chin strap and a silver belly fur as opposed to creamy belly fur. I do have a BB but don't have her pix on this computer to show you right now.
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#1039101 - 12/10/10 09:54 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: HagridsHut]
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I can't see his belly. BB has very thick mascara, thick stripes, pretty much every black marking emphasized. The black knuckles (greys have a hint, BB it's like a sharpie marker was drug across their hand) and the silvery belly is a dead giveaway. If you have a BB next to a grey, the distinction is obvious. Pictures don't always help since lighting and background vary so widely it can be very difficult to judge.

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#1039118 - 12/10/10 10:19 PM Re: Is James a Black Beauty?! [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
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Originally Posted By: Glide_Bye_Lily
Please PM me if you'd like to see pictures of True Black Beauties vs darker classic grey gliders.
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