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#1043106 - 12/18/10 07:31 PM Need help understanding the het %
carolinasuggies Offline
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Okay so I have major issues reading the chart so I need help understanding how to determine which % het a joey is in "dummy terms" (lol) For example a standard 100% lue het with a White face 50% lue het their joey would be ??? % A standard 66% lue het with a ring tail mosaic who is 50% lue het their joey would be ??? % and a standarrd 100% lue het with a white face 100% lue het their joeys would be ??? %


Edited by carolinasuggies (12/18/10 07:33 PM)
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#1043109 - 12/18/10 07:44 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Originally Posted By: carolinasuggies
Okay so I have major issues reading the chart so I need help understanding how to determine which % het a joey is in "dummy terms" (lol) For example a standard 100% lue het with a White face 50% lue het their joey would be ??? % A standard 66% lue het with a ring tail mosaic who is 50% lue het their joey would be ??? % and a standarrd 100% lue het with a white face 100% lue het their joeys would be ??? %


A 100% bred with a 50% will result in offspring that are 62.5%.

66% bred with a 50% will result in 45.5%

100% with 100% will result in 66%

The WF and mosaic traits show up in 50% of the offspring and has no relation to the leu hets.

I added this chart, just cross reference the percentages.

ETA: Feel free to call me and I can try to explain it to you. My number is in my profile.


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Edited by GliderNursery (12/18/10 07:45 PM)
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#1043136 - 12/18/10 08:27 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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WOW thats the perfect dummy chart I actually understood that perfectly! smile Thank you so much!
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#1043167 - 12/18/10 09:17 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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No problem! wink
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#1043182 - 12/18/10 09:42 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: GliderNursery]
Glide_Bye_Lily Offline
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Originally Posted By: GliderNursery
Originally Posted By: carolinasuggies
Okay so I have major issues reading the chart so I need help understanding how to determine which % het a joey is in "dummy terms" (lol) For example a standard 100% lue het with a White face 50% lue het their joey would be ??? % A standard 66% lue het with a ring tail mosaic who is 50% lue het their joey would be ??? % and a standarrd 100% lue het with a white face 100% lue het their joeys would be ??? %


A 100% bred with a 50% will result in offspring that are 62.5%.

66% bred with a 50% will result in 45.5%

100% with 100% will result in 66%

The WF and mosaic traits show up in 50% of the offspring and has no relation to the leu hets.

I added this chart, just cross reference the percentages.

ETA: Feel free to call me and I can try to explain it to you. My number is in my profile.


No one really uses percentages like this. Generally if you have a 100% with a 50% they say 25-50% het or just 50% as you take the highest percentage and cut it in half. wink
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#1043275 - 12/19/10 05:02 AM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: Glide_Bye_Lily]
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Thanks for sharing that chart. It makes understanding the hets alot easier. smile
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#1043464 - 12/19/10 04:04 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Originally Posted By: Glide_Bye_Lily
No one really uses percentages like this. Generally if you have a 100% with a 50% they say 25-50% het or just 50% as you take the highest percentage and cut it in half. wink


People do tend to generalize the percentages, that is true.

Keep in mind that the percentage het is the probability of having a 100% het glider. Genetically speaking, there are truly only 100% hets; either the glider is a het, or it is not. When assigning a % to the glider, you are simply stating that there is (for example) a 50% chance that this glider is a het. Once that glider has bred and proven, they are 100% het.
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#1060180 - 01/24/11 07:51 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Anyone else? I have heard so many different things and I really wish more people would be willing to offer how they do their calculations No one ever really responds to MY posts frown I am asking for help in learning so I don't make any mistake so please I would truely like to hear from more people who have het babies!

How do you calculate the het % on these
a 66% het paired with a 50% het
or a 50% het paired with a 100%
or a 66% paired with a 100%
or a 50% paired with a 50%
or 66% paired with 66%


Edited by carolinasuggies (01/24/11 08:07 PM)
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#1060208 - 01/24/11 08:44 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Edited by GliderNursery (01/24/11 08:50 PM)
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#1060213 - 01/24/11 08:48 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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No I just don't understand how that chart works which is why I am asking here!
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#1060214 - 01/24/11 08:51 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Sorry, I re-read the post after I added that, couldn't delete my post.
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#1060216 - 01/24/11 08:53 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Okay so my husband just informed me he could read the chart! So my question now is HOW can a 66% and a 66% make 33% and at the same time the chart also say's a 50% and 50% makes 33%???
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#1060219 - 01/24/11 08:58 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Originally Posted By: carolinasuggies

a 66% het paired with a 50% het 33% Het
or a 50% het paired with a 100% 50% Het
or a 66% paired with a 100% 66% Het
or a 50% paired with a 50% 33% Het
or 66% paired with 66% 33% Het


Ok, guess I posted too late! roflmao

On the chart, the black is the actual possibility, the red is used for "advertisement" purposes.


Edited by GliderNursery (01/24/11 09:02 PM)
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#1060222 - 01/24/11 09:06 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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The actual percent het from these pairings would be:

50% to 50% = 33% for advertising, but is actually 37.5%
66% to 66% = 33% for advertising, but is actually 49.5%
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#1060225 - 01/24/11 09:08 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Thanks Shelly...But now I am even more confused how can so many different het variations have the same % it just makes no sense to me it seems that MOST are cut in half which would leave a 50 and 50 having a 25% joey! So confusing who actually makes these charts?
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#1060231 - 01/24/11 09:14 PM Re: Need help understanding the het % [Re: carolinasuggies]
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Feel free to call me, I may be able to clear up some of the confusion. Then again, I could make it worse! roflmao
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