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#104763 - 05/23/06 04:44 PM HELP where did the joey go????
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HI i have a pair of gliders who are great and sweet and were pregnant, she was getting big, and i went to feed them the other day and now her pouch looks smaller like there was a joey in ther, but i cant find it, not in the pouch or bag, or cage, she has seemed kids depressed lately, i have looked every where for it? any suggestions on what might have ahppened would help. Thsnk You <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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#104764 - 05/23/06 05:09 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/06/05
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Do you know how far along she was, roughly? If she was just starting to get big it is POSSIBLE that she is hiding the joey from you... Have you been able to feel her tummy? If so do you feel a lump or is her tummy soft and squishy... If it is soft and squishy she may have pulled the joey for some reason, stress, or she knew something was wrong with it... If that is the case you won't find any remains more than likely. In the wild they dispose of the remains, so that is likely what happened if she did pull it. I'm sorry if that is what happened!
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#104765 - 05/23/06 07:39 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
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Like Bugsmama said if you are for sure she had joeys ip she probably did canabalize the joey/s. It is hard to understand why but diet, stress, first time moms all tend to be reasons why. Was she getting enough protien and calcium? Was she a first time mom?
I'm sorry this has happened. It is always hard. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#104766 - 05/23/06 10:50 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: RSXTC]
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yeah it was her first time having jeoys, and her tummy is soft and squishy, will she do it to her next joey?

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#104767 - 05/23/06 11:10 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
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It is hard to say. Some times it means that the mom is not going to be a good mom but some times it just means it was all a new experience and she didn't know what to do. What diet are you feeding her? She might not of had enough protien. Even on a proven diet moms need a little extra protien boost to make a proper milk supply.

If it happens 2 more times I would have the male neutered so she doesn't have to go through the ordeal of getting pregnant, having the joey, carrying the joey and then rejecting it.

Some gliders are just not good parents, but are great pets! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />

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#104768 - 05/23/06 11:46 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: RSXTC]
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blindangeleyes, Sometimes it just happens. My Ayla was a WONDERFUL mom to her first twins. But last week at 6 weeks IP, her second set of lumps just disappeared. Nothing had changed, she was still on the extra protein and calcium from the first twins (they were only 12 days OOP when I got to see the next set go IP) No stress, nothing, just one night during playtime I checked her belly and it was floppy and flat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />

Don't give up on yours being good parents, I know my Ayla and Stitch are and they will get to try again when they are ready.
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#104769 - 05/24/06 02:17 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
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thanks guys, i hope she will do better next time, they are on the bml with meal worms and extra protein, is there anything else i could feed her if that was the problem? thanks

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#104770 - 05/24/06 04:32 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
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For my mommas that have rejected a joey I give them a pinky mouse a few times a week. I use the frozen ones that are already dead. I thaw mine out by putting it under warm water for a few mins... others let their gliders have it frozen. It is gross to think of, but they do eat the whole thing, you will more then likely not find any remains. Gross I know! But they are full of protien and calcium. For most of my mommas that have rejected this helps build their milk supply. One momma it didn't work for though so she is with a neutered male <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#104771 - 05/24/06 07:16 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: RSXTC]
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wouldnt eating the pinkies confuse them, when they have joeys in pouch, to eat it when they are hungry, i am afraid ti try this , but i will think about it thanks

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#104772 - 05/24/06 07:49 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
StitchsMom Offline
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Registered: 09/24/03
Posts: 10569
Loc: IL (St. Louis area)
After Sprocket had Luke, I noticed that she was already plump with baby. I was saddened, but not too shocked, when she sadly lost that little one. It was there one day and gone the next. Sprocket is a good mommy, it was just too soon for her. I don't believe feeding pinkies has anything to do with it really. I feed pinkies as treats to my adult gliders. I'm very sorry for your loss.
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#104773 - 05/24/06 10:11 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: ]
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Glider joeys and pinkies smell totally different so they would be able to tell who is what and not eat the joey, unless they are not good parents. It has worked for me and many others. I wasn't saying you HAD to do it.. just a suggestion. I know some people are very queezy and can't handle stuff like that.

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#104774 - 05/25/06 03:38 PM Re: HELP where did the joey go???? [Re: RSXTC]
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it doesnt bother me, but i just didnt want to confuse her more if that was the problem, but i think i will try it thanks guys, and i hope she will do better next time. thanks so much for the advice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />

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