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#1054551 - 01/13/11 07:52 AM Want to be a owner again!
JaredC
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I had two babies of my own but sadly they went to my ex. I would like to get new babies again. I do not want to breed. I absolutly love these little buggers.


Edited by Gizmogirl (01/13/11 08:03 AM)
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#1054556 - 01/13/11 07:56 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Nikki Offline
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Registered: 12/14/07
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Loc: Northern Ohio
Gliders are illegal to own in Pennsylvania.
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#1054581 - 01/13/11 08:59 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Beezer
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In PA they are illegal n if someone finds out u have them they could turn u in n yr babies will be taken away from u - believe me I know - I used to live in PA n I moved to Illinois n had a really hard time finding a vet that would give my kiddos a good bill of health

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#1054638 - 01/13/11 11:19 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
JaredC
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As far as I have had the law explained it is illegal to breed and sell not to own as a house pet.

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#1054642 - 01/13/11 11:25 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
tammyangel Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Loc: Missouri
They are illegal period to own in PA. I am right now working with a lady who lives in PA that took her gliders in and found out that she can not own them at all .This isn't the first case in PA a few years ago we had a member who adopted her pair from the fair .And within 24 hours after purchasing the gliders she found out the hard way they aren't legal. Even tho she purchased from a fair that the gentlemen selling them was only suppose to be selling turtles. It didn't matter the state told her the gliders had to go or they would be put down. She even went to the news stations and pleaded her case .Nothing helped they gave her 48 hours to get them out of the state.
In PA they can't be pets ,breeders or anything.


Edited by tammyangel (01/13/11 11:27 AM)
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#1054645 - 01/13/11 11:28 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Marsupial_Mayhem Offline
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You need to contact the state. Don't rely on word of mouth.
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#1054649 - 01/13/11 11:32 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
JaredC
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I know quite a few people that own them and even take them to vets who care for them. Guess it really depends on where you are in the state. And my info came from the state. So who knows. I know this law has been questioned alot. You can own and breed alligators but not a fuzz ball.

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#1054650 - 01/13/11 11:37 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
tammyangel Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Loc: Missouri
I can tell you without a doubt. I just got off the phone with the Pennsylvania Game Commissiong and I can tell you without a doubt they are strickly illegal in the state. If you would like to check for yourself you can go to this link

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/pgc/9106

And go to contact us and call Wildlife management. And they will tell you that they do not allow or issue permits for sugar gliders at all .That noone in the state can own a single glider. And was told if found to have any they will be confiscated and put down.All tho there are people who may own them in the state they have been lucky not to have been found to have them. And vets that take care of them are only helping the animals cause they took a oath to care for sick and injured animals. But it is still illegal to own them.


Edited by tammyangel (01/13/11 11:38 AM)
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#1054658 - 01/13/11 11:50 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
JaredC
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Thats what I am talking about and it is quite common that when people ask about the law they get different answers. Some say the law has to do with breeding and selling and some say all. I have even gotten it pertains to wild sugar gliders caught from thw ild and brought to PA. The last part is fair enough as when the law was written sugar gliders were caught and shipped to the US. And yes there are petitions going around to change the law. But all I know is I had them and around here Wildlife commisions and the USDA did not care. And I didn not say I was staying in pittsburgh either.

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#1054663 - 01/13/11 11:57 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
TheGliderPlayroom Offline
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Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 1594
Loc: Youngstown, Ohio
Go to youtube and search for "Sugar Gliders, Illegal Pet". There's a newscast there that has a game commission employee stating that sugar gliders ARE indeed completely illegal.

I have had a lot of experience with it, living only 10 miles from the PA border. There is no way to legally have gliders in PA, and they DO and WILL confiscate and euthanize the gliders when caught.
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#1054665 - 01/13/11 11:58 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Nikki Offline
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Registered: 12/14/07
Posts: 794
Loc: Northern Ohio
I would call the Pennsylvania Game Commission. That way you have the truth about owning Sugar Gliders in PA. Plus it would be hard to get gliders since most if not all breeders will not sell to an illegal state.
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#1054668 - 01/13/11 12:02 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Registered: 07/31/09
Posts: 13454
Loc: South Africa
JaredC, I suggest that you give them a call. The members on here are only trying to save you heartache. wink
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#1054692 - 01/13/11 01:01 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
IslandGliders Offline
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Registered: 08/29/10
Posts: 4182
Loc: Maine
It's not worth it. frown Trust me, they are illegal in PA (and MA, too). I may not be up to speed on all glider laws but I keep a close watch on the northeast U.S.

Look into another (legal) pet. Or moving. wink

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#1054704 - 01/13/11 01:23 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
JaredC
Unregistered


Game Commission is who I asked. Now whoever is in charge may be different then when I asked, meaning the last couple years. Living here I know this law's interpretation has flucuated. Last time I owned two I was questioned by Game and whoever it was didnt care because the male was neutered. This is my experience. But like I said it may be different now. I'm not arguing the law but I have had a run in with it. Now maybe I got lucky but who knows. But gotta admit the law is silly since the USDA approves them elsewhere. All we can do is petition the law and get it changed.

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#1054707 - 01/13/11 01:35 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
I would suggest not relying on any phone call and would get it IN writing ON State stationary letter head with official signatures etc that they ARE legal before getting them.
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#1054712 - 01/13/11 01:46 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
tammyangel Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 2493
Loc: Missouri
When I called the gentlemen I spoke to is the head guy for the Wildlife management. And he said there is alot of misinformation out there about this issue. But they are illegal .Noone is denying your experience with this person but the laws have been this way for years .Is what I was told and they know people break them .And as he told me they can't catch everyone. But the law is that they can not be owned or kept in the state no matter what. Breeding ,selling or just plain old pets .None is allowed. Its a dumb law but all you can do is try and change the law. Most of the laws outlawing gliders for numerous reasons is because their knowledge of the animals they have outlawed is not enough to show that they should be legal.Just like here they wanted to outlaw every animal that had not originated in Missouri .Which put alot of animals in this bill .But they were doing it to get a handle on those people owning large cats. The bill was even outlawing birds,fish and other animals that can't do any harm to humans. As I told the senator if they are worried about the animals who can maul humans than make it for them do not include the animals that can't harm humans. So it didn't pass but theres still a chance they will try it again.
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#1054730 - 01/13/11 02:28 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
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As I told the senator if they are worried about the animals who can maul humans than make it for them do not include the animals that can't harm humans.


Problem with that is gliders CAN bite. Gliders can carry illnesses (giardia for example) that humans can get. Yes, I know that so can dogs and cats and that a dog bite is usually MUCH worse than a glider's but that is the argument that they use. Gliders are exotic so that means they must be dangerous. Silly reasoning to ME but....it simply is what it is until the laws can be changed.
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#1054914 - 01/13/11 10:19 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
SariYappa Offline
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Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 5997
Loc: Upstate, SC
Originally Posted By: JaredC
But gotta admit the law is silly since the USDA approves them elsewhere. All we can do is petition the law and get it changed.

Jared, I hope you are motivated enough to try and make this happen. Maybe you can be the key (along with other people you know) in getting the law turned in your area!

I hope that one day, you could legally own a sugar glider in your own home smile
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#1055061 - 01/14/11 07:00 AM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
JaredC
Unregistered


Yea PA Game Commision is silly. I can own a croc which by far more dangerous than other pets. And I can even own a diamond back Rattle snake. I guess reptiles don't fall under exotic. What a joke.

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#1055246 - 01/14/11 03:02 PM Re: Want to be a owner again! [Re: ]
Rubym Offline
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Registered: 11/18/10
Posts: 442
Loc: Indiana, USA
Whats funny is that if a rattler is native to an area they dont give you grief but some politicians are trying to ban owning Leopard and crested geckos among a large list . Neither can thrive in most places in the US so they are really not able to take over and ruin the eco system. These laws are nuts, IMO.
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