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#1076 - 12/06/02 11:14 PM PLEASE HELP...glider choking?
Karin Offline
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Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 11583
Loc: Sycamore Illinois
During playtime, my daughter had given Tira a treat, and a few seconds later Tira looked as if she was choking...and spit out a clear liquid. After I ran over to see her...she looked as if she was choking...again spit out a clear ball of fluid. Is this normal? Should I be concerned she is ill? or a choking episode?

Please help if you can!

Karin
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#1077 - 12/06/02 11:21 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
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Karin,

What kind of treat was it? Do you think maybe Tira was not throwing up or seizuring? How is Tira acting now? If she continues I suggest taking to the vet. Let us know your baby is doing. Hope it passed and was nothing serious.

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#1078 - 12/06/02 11:23 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
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Hey Karin,
I would assume that if she was choking that she would not be able to spit out anything, Cause her airway would have been restricted. Was she breathing alright after she spit ? It sounds to me like she was just having a hard time getting that treat down. I would just make sure she is eatin ok and that you give her plenty of fluids. If she continues to spit clear fluid, then I would take her to the vet asap <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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#1079 - 12/06/02 11:24 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
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Registered: 09/06/01
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Loc: Sycamore Illinois
she is running around....poopies is fine...can they choke? I think** that is what is was...
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#1080 - 12/06/02 11:25 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
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Hi, if it were me-being a total panic freak with a hyperactive sense of urgency this is what I would do...Go to www.gliderhealth.com
and call one of the listed emergency advisors (some take call any time of night)if she is acting or looking "funny".

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#1081 - 12/06/02 11:31 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
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<img border="0" alt="clap" title="" src="graemlins/yelclap.gif" /> GO Tira !!!! <img border="0" alt="jump" title="" src="graemlins/multi.gif" />
sounds like she is fine, I would just watch her and see how she is acting and eatin and drinking and you know general behavior <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
Glad to hear she is ok <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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#1082 - 12/06/02 11:32 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
What you were seeing was vomit. Gliders do not vomit unless ill. She needs to be seen by a vet at least by tomorrow (Saturday). I would not wait till Monday.

Please update the board as to his findings.
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#1083 - 12/06/02 11:34 PM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
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Registered: 09/06/01
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Loc: Sycamore Illinois
calling the vet...she IS throwing up
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#1084 - 12/07/02 12:09 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Sorry to hear this. I know you must be so worried. I had a feeling it was vomit. Praying that your baby will feel better soon. Please keep us posted.

Take a water bottle with you. Keep giving her fluids.

<small>[ 12-07-2002, 01:11 AM: Message edited by: SugarKisses ]</small>

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#1085 - 12/07/02 12:21 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
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Oh Karin, I hope all is okay with Tira! <img border="0" alt="heart" title="" src="graemlins/heartpump.gif" /> I will be waiting to hear back to see is she is okay.

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#1086 - 12/07/02 12:35 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
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Please let us know whats going on.
Our prayers are with you and your little ones.

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#1087 - 12/07/02 01:02 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
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Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 11583
Loc: Sycamore Illinois
Ellen? Judie? somebody...called my vet...he is too ill to come out here or see her, called 2 other emer vets...they won't even see her for a sub q fluids...she is rubbing her head all over the place...won't eat...but is drinking alot!

What do I do?
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#1088 - 12/07/02 01:08 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
BeetleJuice Offline
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Registered: 12/12/01
Posts: 2724
Loc: Summerville, SC
Karin,

Is she still throwing up? Can your vet see her in the morning. The main thing right now is to make sure that she stays hydrated (if she is drinking plenty of water, she should be). I'll see if I can round up some help.
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#1089 - 12/07/02 01:10 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
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Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 11583
Loc: Sycamore Illinois
at the moment she in sleeping in her pouch...I witnessed her throw up about 5x...then she drank ALOT of apple juice...and went to the pouch
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#1090 - 12/07/02 01:17 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
BeetleJuice Offline
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Registered: 12/12/01
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Loc: Summerville, SC
Karin,

I've sent out a call for help.... If you cannot find a vet willing to see Tira then hopefully she will be alright until morning. If the throwing up has subsided, hopefully that is a good sign. What kind of treat did she eat before she started to throw up? I'm doing a search as well, will be right back if I find anything helpful.
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#1091 - 12/07/02 01:20 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
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Registered: 09/06/01
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Loc: Sycamore Illinois
we are not sure if she even ate any of it...if she did, a very very tiny piece of a pitted date...the dried kind
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#1092 - 12/07/02 01:22 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
alice33 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/01
Posts: 1693
Loc: St. Louis and Key West
Karen-thinking about you and Tira and sending healing prayers and positive energy your way. Petunia and Jojo are willing to donate all of their Saturday treats if that would help. If your vet is still too sick to see her tomorrow, maybe an assistant would be knowledgeable enough to do a sub-q shot?
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#1093 - 12/07/02 01:31 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
You are in Ill. Are you any where close to Danielle from Kanddexotics?
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#1094 - 12/07/02 01:32 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
You do not list what city you are located in. Where are you in Ill?
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#1095 - 12/07/02 01:37 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Judie - Not sure what city but I know that she is about 2 hours from Danielle

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#1096 - 12/07/02 01:42 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 11583
Loc: Sycamore Illinois
she now has watery diarreah....keeps moving her mouth about 100x a sec....WHAT DO I DO? She won't take the Pedialtye closest vet is 2hrs away that can see her
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#1097 - 12/07/02 01:43 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
What about John of RowdyRooRanch?
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#1098 - 12/07/02 01:46 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
Hand in there calling Danielle.
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#1099 - 12/07/02 01:47 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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She is calling the vet back...maybe since it is more serious then choking like she first thought he might do something...Lets all keep are fingers crossed and pray for Tira....

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#1100 - 12/07/02 01:55 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
I talked to Ken....there vet would see the glider as he is on call. But it is a two hour drive.

Ken says, you are in the Chicago area....I would check out the vet links first and if no one there then start calling every vet in the book. You are near a large metropolitan city...you should be able to locate a emerg clinic who will admin fluids to keep her going till morning.

Let me know how it is going. For now NO APPLE JUICE unless you dilute it 50/50 with pedilyte or water. Keep her warm.
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#1101 - 12/07/02 02:07 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Critter Creations Offline
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Registered: 11/02/00
Posts: 3398
Loc: Rock Falls, IL, USA
Karin our vet will see her if he's on call. If Dr. Sampson is on call I would not go to him. I would tell him that you need Dr. Howenboken (Dr. H) since it is a sugar glider and ask him if he can reach him to get him to the vets office. Their number is (815) 537-5147. This is the cel phone they use at night when they are on call.
Tira and you are both in our prayers and thoughts and let us know if we can do anything. Big hugs coming your way.
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#1102 - 12/07/02 02:23 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Karin...it sounds like Tira has gotten the date lodged in and partially blocking her esophagus and is attempting to dislodge the date with her described actions-( "throwing up about 5x" & "moving her mouth about 100x a sec" ) If the esophagus or airway were totally blocked in this amount of time, suffice to say, she would be in more dire condition..sounds like she needs to be seen by vet to dislodge the portion of the date that is partially blocking her pathway. If she could, she would expel it herself, but at this point, she's likely only able to regurgitate a portion of fluid she is ingesting and the date is remaining in place. The vet will likely use a flexible and narrow device to insert in her esophagus to dislodge the date. I'm no expert, but I have seen Kira react in a similar manner to this with a piece of watermelon this past summer and when she was able to regurgitate the piece of fruit that was blocking her pipes, she was fine...she did the same thing with the hands and mouth movements, and the vomiting of clear liquid balls until the blockage was completely eliminated. Keep us updated, PLEASE! Wish you could do a glider "Heimlich" on her! The vet will be able to get it out though! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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#1103 - 12/07/02 02:28 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Karin Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 11583
Loc: Sycamore Illinois
they are STILL refusing to see her for a sub q shot...so I am taking her ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!! this is unreal...leaving now...pray please

Karin
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Tira and Misu angel Deja and Vu

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#1104 - 12/07/02 02:29 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
This should work between the two vets. Karin please update the board as to findings after vet visit.

Thanks, Danielle for the phone number.
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#1105 - 12/07/02 02:31 AM Re: PLEASE HELP...glider choking? [Re: ]
Judie Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 9173
Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
Jeff....the glider has diarreah now also. So, this is something else.
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