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#1101553 - 04/18/11 02:19 AM Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One
NavyChiefWife
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Simba's penis is hanging out and looks irritated and slightly swollen. He fusses when he pees and he also has been pulling at it.
I have been using ky jelly to try to keep it moistened.

I called the emergency vets and the vet said to keep watching him and if he gets worse bring him in. I am trying to make it a few more hours until the vet's office opens around 8am.

I need some advice on what I can do to help him right now. Is there anything else other than what I am already doing to make him more comfortable and to keep him distracted so he doesn't mess with it? I don't have an ecollar, I accidentally left it at home (I'm visiting family in FL right now).

I'm worried about my little man. If anyone can give me any advice or ideas I would really appreciate it! Also, if anyone knows what would cause this to happen then please let me know so I know what to ask the vet when I take him.



Edited by DCMuffin (04/20/11 07:07 AM)

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#1101556 - 04/18/11 02:28 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Brandi I am so sorry frown

You are doing everything right, keeping the penis moist is very important. Can you make an e-collar?
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#1101560 - 04/18/11 02:34 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
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Does it retract after he urinates? When Muchu had this issue, the vet did a fecal, urinalysis, checked for crystals and nerve damage.

Give him lots of fluids, you will need some urine for the urinalysis.
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#1101562 - 04/18/11 02:37 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
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I am with Liezl on this, keep fluids going. and try t make an e-collar out of whatever you can get your hands on. Keep it moist with the ky and keep him busy/distracted
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#1101563 - 04/18/11 02:39 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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It won't go back in at all. When he pees and poops he goes running around like it's on fire. He will stop for a second and mess with it and fuss then start running around again.
He won't let me go near his rear end at all. He even nipped ate when I went to give him a chest massage to try to calm him down. He thought I was going to touch his penis. He never bites me so that is way out of character for him. He's my big sweet teddy bear.
I have him cuddled in my lap in my shirt and every so often he starts messing with it again. Licking it and pulling it with his teeth and fussing.


I don't have anything to make an ecollar with. I just rumaged through everything looking for something I could rig up as one.

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#1101566 - 04/18/11 02:42 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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I tried giving him treats to distract him. The only one he would take was a fruit loop. He only ate part of it and didn't even bother cleaning himself up when he was done. That's not like him either. He's usually very neurotic about cleaning himself after he eats. frown

I've also been trying to give him watermellon and regular water. He doesn't want anything to do with it. He takes a lick or two of the watermellon then turns his head away.

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#1101568 - 04/18/11 02:48 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
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Ok, long shot but worth the try. Do you think he has UTI? If his urine is not smelling stronger and this seem sudden, there is a possibility that there is something wrapped around the base keeping it from retracting.
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#1101570 - 04/18/11 02:49 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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Can you give me some ideas on what household items I can use to make an ecollar?
I have gauze, no-stick tape (it's the stuff that sticks to itself), and fleece.

I'm not sure what else I could safely use to make one.

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#1101571 - 04/18/11 02:50 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Originally Posted By: NavyChiefWife

I've also been trying to give him watermellon and regular water. He doesn't want anything to do with it. He takes a lick or two of the watermellon then turns his head away.


You can also mix pedialyte with yogurt, see if he will take that.
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#1101572 - 04/18/11 02:51 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
JillMarie Offline
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I am sorry but have no other advice. I thankfully havent had any hands on problems with this.

Are there any plastic containers in the house you can cut to make an e-collar? The lid part might work, may be too stiff but its worth a try? use duck tape, or any tape to close it. A piece of an ace bandage or a bandaid can be uses to cover the edge of the plastic if you cant find any moleskin.

Thinking along the lines of the e-jacket, maybe a strip of fleece around his body with a large knot by his belly so ts in the way of him trying to clean his penis. Did that make any sense?

The best I can do is to pray for you and your little one right now. It is important you stay calm so you can help him. Stay peaceful. Keep peaceful and healing thoughts. I pray now for you.


Edited by JillMarie (04/18/11 02:52 AM)
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#1101573 - 04/18/11 02:52 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Originally Posted By: NavyChiefWife
Can you give me some ideas on what household items I can use to make an ecollar?
I have gauze, no-stick tape (it's the stuff that sticks to itself), and fleece.

I'm not sure what else I could safely use to make one.


Do you have a plastic notebook cover?
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#1101574 - 04/18/11 02:53 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
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Brandi

Here you go:

E-collar instructions
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#1101576 - 04/18/11 02:54 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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I don't think he has a UTI. His urine smelled normal. That's the first thing I did was smell his urine. Unless he's just starting to get one?
His poop looks ok but it comes out at the same time as his urine. Normally he poops then pees or pees then poops. He never does it at the same time like this.

I tried to check to see if maybe a hair got tangled around it but I wasn't able to get a really good look. From what I could see I didn't see anything wrapped around it. But he wasn't being very still for me. He's scared I'm going to touch it so he flips out and gets nippy with me. frown



I can try to get a picture and post it if I can get him to sit still for one while I lift his tail.

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#1101579 - 04/18/11 02:58 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Brandi I asked a good friend of mine to have a look at your post as she had the same issue not long ago with her little Munchkin. She is currently in a meeting but will have a look soon.

I don't think we will be able to see from a photo what' s going on, so I suggest you don't stress him out any further.

Hang in there, see if you can dish something up for an e-collar.

We're here with you, hang in there girl. hug2
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#1101580 - 04/18/11 03:04 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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If you don't have anything to make an e-collar, you can use the gauze, no-stick tape (it's the stuff that sticks to itself), and fleece and do something similar to the picture above until you can get him to the vet. It will not prevent him from getting to his penis but it should make it harder and give you the necessary time to prevent any damage.
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#1101583 - 04/18/11 03:07 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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If I roll up some fleece like a hotdog then wrap it around his neck and use tape to secure it do you think that would work? Kind of like a neck brace that humans wear?


I'm still trying to get the picture to upload. I took it with my phone but I'm having issues getting it uploaded.

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#1101584 - 04/18/11 03:09 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Well, it sure is worth trying. Anything at this stage as long as he cannot reach his cloaca area.
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#1101585 - 04/18/11 03:20 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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Ok this ecollar thing just isn't working for me. I can't get the fleece to stay on. He is very determined and doesn't want anything on him. frown


Still working on getting that pic uploaded.

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#1101586 - 04/18/11 03:23 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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I couldn't get the other picture to load but this one worked. This one isn't that good, it's a little blurry.




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#1101587 - 04/18/11 03:26 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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It doesn't look too red, there is a possibility that this could be hormonal. How old is Simba? Did you manage to make an e-collar?
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#1101588 - 04/18/11 03:30 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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It is actually a little red but you can't really tell in this picture. I wish I could get the other picture to work because you can really see it in that one.

I'm still working on the ecollar thing. He gave me a nice bite on my finger and made me bleed. He's not too happy with me right now but I'm still trying. frown

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#1101589 - 04/18/11 03:35 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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Simba is 1 1/2. He matured at a very early age too. He has already had one set of joeys. Him and his wife mated last week. I caught them in the act. Could his hormones still be going crazy even though they mated last week?
I've never had any of my other males do this all the years I've had them.

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#1101590 - 04/18/11 03:37 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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I'm sorry you are so worried Brandi. frown

What time is it over there? All you can do now is to keep it lubricated, keep pushing fluids, and prevent little Simba from messing with it until you can get him to the vet. hug2

If you are able to you are welcome to email me the other pic? liezl@sugarglider.co.za
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#1101591 - 04/18/11 03:40 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Originally Posted By: NavyChiefWife
Simba is 1 1/2. He matured at a very early age too. He has already had one set of joeys. Him and his wife mated last week. I caught them in the act. Could his hormones still be going crazy even though they mated last week?
I've never had any of my other males do this all the years I've had them.


Ok, so he is already 1 1/2 years of age. Then it's probably not hormonal. I'm not sure, I only experienced it with boys around the age of 12 to 16 weeks. My only other thought if it's not UTI is like I said, something could be wrapped around the base.
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#1101592 - 04/18/11 03:47 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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I have my phone plugged into my laptop. I'm trying to upload the better pic that way. Hopefully it works.

It's 4:52am here. The vets open around 8am. I'm going to try to call at 7:30am to see if anyone is in the office yet.


I hope it's just a UTI that can be fixed with some antibiotic and pain medicine.

Do they need to sedate him to examine it? The emergency vet mentioned that on the phone.

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#1101593 - 04/18/11 03:50 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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I have noticed that he is peeing more often than he normally does. Usually he just goes once when he wakes up then he's good for a few hours. He has gone 3 times in the last hour. Is that a symptom of a UTI?

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#1101594 - 04/18/11 03:54 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
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I have a video of a penis examination, if you are interested let me know and I will email it to you. There is a possibility that they will sedate him to properly see what's going on since he is in so much pain and pulling at it.
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#1101595 - 04/18/11 03:56 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Gizmogirl Offline
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Originally Posted By: NavyChiefWife
I have noticed that he is peeing more often than he normally does. Usually he just goes once when he wakes up then he's good for a few hours. He has gone 3 times in the last hour. Is that a symptom of a UTI?


Yes it is, but it can also be that the penis is irritated and that will make him go more frequently.
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#1101597 - 04/18/11 03:59 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
Munchkin
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Hi Brandi, I had a similar problem with my little guy Munchkin not so long ago. He had a favourite toy that turned out to be a nightmare. He somehow managed to open one of his caterpillars legs and ingested some of the stuffing. Somewhow the stuffing went through his system and then when he tried to poop it out, a few strands of the stuffing got wrapped around the tip of his penis. The more he licked it the more stuck and wrapped it got. You mentioned that you would check if there was hair around it. It only takes a few strands to get tangled around his penis as hair is very strong. He probably doesn't want to put it back cause it feels yukky..... I also remember seing a thread somewhere on GC that their penis can come out too far and then it gets stuck. Luckily with Munchkin, it was on his tip so we could see it, but maybe with this little guy, something has gotten stuck at the base of his penis? It is frustrating not knowing how to help..... Let me see if I can find the thread and then I will send it through. Good luck and hang in there.....

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#1101598 - 04/18/11 04:03 AM Re: Penis Problem Please Help! - Part One [Re: ]
NavyChiefWife
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I finally got the better picture to upload. Here it is. It's actually looking a little redder now since I took this picture. I think it's because he keeps messing with it.
The front of the clocea is a little swollen, you can see a little of it if you look towards his pom.




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