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#1115052 - 05/17/11 07:58 AM Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth?
Dwiizie Offline
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Registered: 05/09/11
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Loc: Richmond, VA
I asked a woman about 2 gliders, to see if they were female. She responded that they were male, but that boys were nicer, and any time she wanted to take them to work, she always takes the boys. Is there truth to this? The general concensus seems to be that they are pretty equal as far as temperament is concerned. Thoughts? I wasn't sure I was being given proper information, it felt like she was kind of like "oh, no worries, just get them" She even offered me free neutering if I purchased them.
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#1115058 - 05/17/11 08:33 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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I'd definitely go with the general consensus and not what this woman says. Not sure where she's getting her information. Is this woman a breeder?
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#1115064 - 05/17/11 08:49 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Norpa
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There is no difference in temperament boys can be just as aggressive as girls or vice versa. It all depends on their personality, I'd go with which one you think is the nicest. My little Suki who I get at the end of the month is a girl and she is an absolute love bug. While Winter is a crabby little girl who just wants to be in her cage. So totally different personalities in the same gender. I would recommend taking her up on the neutering if I were you, if you do decide to go with the boys that is.

edit---

Have you checked cages, parents, food and held joeys/adults? Just to be on the safe side. I'm sure there's a breeder check list and what to look for. Actually I'm positive there's one on here.


Edited by Norpa (05/17/11 08:52 AM)

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#1115066 - 05/17/11 09:03 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Dwiizie Offline
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Loc: Richmond, VA
Her name is Glory Jovi, she is in South Carolina. http://www.sugarglidersgalore.com/ I don't really want males, I have boy cats, a boy fish, a soon to be husband, and boy gerbils lol. I need girls to hang out with smile

Oh, and no, I just have what she says as far as her facilities and practices go, as I am in Virginia.


Edited by Dwiizie (05/17/11 09:05 AM)
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#1115068 - 05/17/11 09:10 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Norpa
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There's plenty of very experienced breeders from VA here on GC if you'd like to be able to see the facilities and handle the joeys/adults. There are also some very lovely people around who run rescues too.

She seems a bit biased but she may have just had way better experiences with boy gliders than girl gliders. Just go with what your gut/heart is telling you ^^.

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#1115071 - 05/17/11 09:20 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/..._Jo#Post1089275

http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/..._He#Post1072684

The breeder is very fishy. She has incomplete lineages and there's alot of incorrect info on her site as well. Add that to the fact that she's trying to push you into buying her joeys...I would look elsewhere. :\
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#1115072 - 05/17/11 09:25 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Norpa
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Oh man, her bonding page made me cringe. Yeah I'm with Guerita, find someone else that you can actually visit and see the babies.

Edit--

and a big cage is way more than NECESSARY to the health of your glider D:. And you should always have a pair no matter how much time you spend with them. Heat rock= no, rope= no because of loose threads, same with cloth that isn't fleece. D: Goodness.


Edited by Norpa (05/17/11 09:30 AM)

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#1115074 - 05/17/11 09:31 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Dwiizie Offline
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Thanks guys for the input, always appreciated. I think my gut instinct is what prompted me to post this, and thats been confirmed here for me. I've been browsing around the classifieds and checking out breeders in VA and nearby states. I'm not opposed to finding some further away and having them flown in, but that does have the same downside of not being about to check out facilities.
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#1115076 - 05/17/11 09:35 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Dwiizie Offline
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I hadn't read her bonding page because I felt I was knowledgeable enough on the subject. I just checked it out because of what Norpa said. Eish is right! If they bite, fold them in half till they stop??? What kind of advice is that to calm a scared critter? "Sugar Glider Sleeper Hold" :-/
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#1115077 - 05/17/11 09:38 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Norpa
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You are very welcome, and yeah, I don't like the risk about flying so I don't do it. If you're not sure about a breeder that you're considering there are many people here on GC that can help who may have had experience with the breeder.

Edit--

LOL! That does sound like a sleeper hold. All I could think of as I was reading it was thinking: "How would you like it if you were scared and trying to get away and suddenly someone just rolls you up in a ball?"


Edited by Norpa (05/17/11 09:42 AM)

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#1115081 - 05/17/11 09:46 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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Registered: 01/28/11
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I not sure where she got her info from but as posted above each glider is different. I have both girls and boys who are verry sweet. I also think it depends on how much time you spend bonding with your gliders.
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#1115117 - 05/17/11 10:56 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
AmandaSnyder Offline
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There are some really great glider breeders on here and these people are great.Post what your looking for and im sure someone here has it and they dont seem to be as crazy priced as some breeders ive checked into.You will pay more for breeding right but there are so very cute gliders out there make sure you go with ur heart because there is alot to look for.Good luck with your search!!!!
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#1115130 - 05/17/11 11:17 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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I've heard of breeders (good breeders, too!) insisting on temperament differences between the genders, but in my (very limited) experience I haven't seen it.

But back when I was researching gliders, the general consensus seemed to be that girls were moodier, more energetic "busybodies" and boys--especially neutered boys--were calmer and more loving.

I still went with two girls for my first two gliders. And I wasn't disappointed. smile They are very loving, though they are busybodies! LOL

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#1115139 - 05/17/11 11:35 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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I have heard nothing good about her! As Nicole said, she has fishy lineage & does not have good breeding practices.
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#1115148 - 05/17/11 12:00 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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Quote:
the general consensus seemed to be that girls were moodier, more energetic "busybodies" and boys--especially neutered boys--were calmer and more loving.


I think that is pretty fair assessment (from my experience). I love my neutered boys the best but only slightly above my other gliders. Right now, all the girls I have here are pretty laid back and all mine are sweet as can be. But I still have that soft spot for the neutered boys.


The girl's moodiness comes from their hormones during their heat cycles. Since they can't be spayed, it is just something to live with. Some girls act no different but some will get a little crazy (not usually in a bad way) but their heat cycle last only 3 days or so.

Neutered boys don't go through the hormonal swings. Intact boys go through the mood swings too if there are females in the house (reaction to them).
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#1115152 - 05/17/11 12:18 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Dwiizie Offline
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I don't mind a moody lady now and then. I do think that boys in a LOT of species can be the "more laid back ones" once they're neutered, but I think so much is "nurture over nature" as some others have said, bonding is really going to make a difference. I think I am going to be good with this, I have a lot of time, patience, and dedication to ensure success. I just need some girl power in the house hehe!
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#1115206 - 05/17/11 03:07 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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So, I had given up on finding someone locally to purchase from, and finally, I placed a deposit on two gliders in Tulsa. Shortly after, I got an email from a woman with two gliders in VA that would be perfect, and I wouldn't have to put them through the shipping process. I have sent an email to the woman to ask if she will make an exception to her non refundable deposit rule so that I can purchase locally and not have to put them through shipping. Its only been a few hours now since I sent the money. I'd understand if I was trying to back out last minute or something, or if she had taken down advertising and changed her website for me, but there hasn't been time for her to be able to do any of those things. I hope it isn't awful of me to ask for the deposit back. I feel just absolutely sick with stress over the whole thing.
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#1115228 - 05/17/11 03:46 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
drum_chick
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I have two girls, one is sweet, the other is a bit of a brat wink

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#1115327 - 05/17/11 06:45 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Jen Offline
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Registered: 04/30/11
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Loc: Maryland
I have two female gliders and they are both completely different. One never crabs and is very gentle. The other is more reserved and is a big pouch grouch! You touch her or look at her in her pouch and she runs her mouth! Her bark is worse than her bite:O)
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#1115336 - 05/17/11 06:59 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
LiveInTheMoment Offline
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Total myth. All my suggies have totally different personalities, but all are equally sweet. I have 2 females that are snuggle bugs, and 2 males that are snuggle bugs, the other boy and girl just like to explore.

The sweetest suggie I have is my little girl Killara. She has truly lived up to her name.. it's Australian for, "always there." She loves to snuggle, she isn't moody, she is just the sweetest thing. She loves cuddling, she greets me every day.. ugh. I dunno what I would do without her. I love my other kids so much, but she is a momma's girl. She loves to go EVERYWHERE with me, and she's always so well behaved tounge. Her cagemate Willoughby is a brat! He's a sweet glider, but he definitely has a mind of his own. He only cuddles on his terms.
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#1115372 - 05/17/11 08:00 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Janie Offline
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Loc: MS
I would have to say I agree that boys..esp neutered boys are more laid back. I have 28 suggies and only one of my girls will rival my boys for being calm and extremely easy for even strangers to handle.....

My girls are all sweet, and I have no issues clipping nails , picking them up and playing with them. It is just they are far more moody and more likely to have an attitude. My boys with the exception of one are all cuddle bugs and want to be loved on.

Last year when my vet asked to borrow one for a talk he was giving to 4-7 year olds ... I told him just pick a boy:P Galileo let over 100 strange kids pet him for about an hour! none of my girls would have allowed that LOL
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#1115375 - 05/17/11 08:09 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Janie]
LiveInTheMoment Offline
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Originally Posted By: Janie
Last year when my vet asked to borrow one for a talk he was giving to 4-7 year olds ... I told him just pick a boy:P Galileo let over 100 strange kids pet him for about an hour! none of my girls would have allowed that LOL


Aww, I only have one boy that loves attention. He will take it from ANYONE he can get it from. He gets passed around the vets office lol.

But as far as my suggies go.. my girls are more laid back and enjoy cuddling tounge.
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#1115381 - 05/17/11 08:16 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: LiveInTheMoment]
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Hi Dwiizie,
This is Anita (Sweetgliders) here in Tulsa, where you placed your deposit on my two girls. I have been a member of GC since 2001 and have lots of glider experience and there are alot of GC members who are owned by my babies. smile I have been very blessed when shipping any of my joeys and I try to make it as less stressful for the new parents and the babies as possible. Granted I can't control everything on the plane ride but I do try. I understand about your nervousness on the shipping process and I would be glad to speak with you about your deposit. smile

Thank you.
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#1115419 - 05/17/11 09:40 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dwiizie
I don't really want males, I have boy cats, a boy fish, a soon to be husband, and boy gerbils lol. I need girls to hang out with smile


That's exactly why almost ALL of my pets are females. When my kids were younger, I realized I was *seriously* out-testosteroned. Two male children, a husband, a male dog and a male cat!

Now, I have 5 female cats, 2 female dogs, a female macaw, and 2 female hedgehogs. The gliders are assorted - neutered males, non-neutered males and females. Last summer, we got a boy kitten. He's the first non-glider, non-human male member to join our household in over a decade!


As far as the gliders, however, I have to agree with Dancing. My favorites are almost always the neutered males. So laid back and easy-going! More likely to be snugglers.


Edited by ValkyrieMome (05/17/11 09:42 PM)
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#1115497 - 05/17/11 11:53 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
Dwiizie Offline
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I just want to say thanks again Anita! I am sooo thankful that you were so understanding and easy to work with. I really appreciate it so much. Thank you! And thank you everyone for being so helpful!
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#1115501 - 05/17/11 11:57 PM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: ]
Meg_n_Von Offline
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Originally Posted By: Norpa
Oh man, her bonding page made me cringe.


Me too! Some of their practices are just a no go for me.

As far as temperaments go, I think it's a toss up. My one glider, Kira, is a complete lunatic! She's always running and all over the place. I call her the wild one, lol. Her cage mate, Logan, is the same way. They're beyond sweet, but wild at the same time.

My other glider, Pip, is as sweet and calm as they come. I haven't heard him crab since he was about 2 months OOP, that was almost 2 years ago. His cage mate, Sadie, is super sweet and really mellow and lazy, but can be a bit crabby from time to time.

Then there's my lone ranger, Charlie. He's really sweet and mellow, but can spaz out from time to time, lol.

Gliders are all SO different, that's one of my favorite things about them. You think you know them, then you add you your family and meet someone completely different from all the rest. smile
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#1115506 - 05/18/11 12:04 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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I will tell you this too. Anita babies ARE THE SWEETEST! I just LOVES me some Anita babies. If you do go ahead and get them from her, you won't be disappointed. She sure lives up to her screen name...sweetgliders!
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#1115647 - 05/18/11 08:46 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Norpa
Oh man, her bonding page made me cringe.

"You have to maintain the boss role in the relationship with your sugar glider."
Really? Um, MY suggies actually thought this is supposed to be the other way around and so did I, so that's how WE'VE been doing it. dunno

So glad you worked things out with Anita! I don't have any of her babies but she sure earned her reputation for having sweet gliders!
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#1115664 - 05/18/11 09:34 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: Dwiizie]
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There was someone here not long ago that posted about gliders they got and that they were having troubles with them, things weren't going well, the gliders were sick, etc. I posted in the thread and gave her some advice and ideas. A day or two later, I got a form response that was generated on my website, sent to my email. It was from this particular breeder, first thanking me for responding to this members post (odd) and then went on to tell me that SHE was the breeder of this person's gliders, telling me something completely different than what the member did, defending herself at every turn. Needless to say, red flags were raised immediately because why would you go out of your way to seek someone out (I don't know this breeder, had never heard of her before her form response) just to talk about ONE post on a large forum. I found it to be very odd and after discussions off the board with the member, it's clear this breeder isn't quite right.

She said to me that she sells her joeys "at 7 weeks at the earliest" and "only if they are eating and drinking good". This, along with the other information on her site, would make me run in the other direction.
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#1115675 - 05/18/11 09:52 AM Re: Breeder says boys are nicer than girls. Truth? [Re: suggiemom1980]
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Originally Posted By: suggiemom1980
Originally Posted By: Norpa
Oh man, her bonding page made me cringe.

"You have to maintain the boss role in the relationship with your sugar glider."
Really? Um, MY suggies actually thought this is supposed to be the other way around and so did I, so that's how WE'VE been doing it. dunno

So glad you worked things out with Anita! I don't have any of her babies but she sure earned her reputation for having sweet gliders!

I agree laugh MY gliders are the bosses around here haha! They bark and I go running to either play or give treats. Last night Baby Face tried to nibble my finger when I gave her a yogie but I must say I wouldn't put her in a hold like what that lady describes shakehead I just psst! and calmly say she's not being nice. Not that she understands me lol!
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