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#1166041 - 08/25/11 11:58 AM Egg yolk?
JazzNZoeysMom Offline
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Registered: 07/25/11
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Whenever I hear of anyone giving gliders eggs, it's always scrambled or hard boiled. I'm wondering why we don't cook them overeasy so the yolk is runny & let them lap that up since they are sap suckers? Just wondering... dunno
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#1166050 - 08/25/11 12:27 PM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
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With "over easy" eggs, the yolks still have the potential for carrying live salmonella bacteria. It isn't recommended for anyone or any species to eat raw/undercooked eggs.
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#1166059 - 08/25/11 01:02 PM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
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That's actually a good question and a good answer. Keep in mind the size of our sugar gliders. thumb

Even thought the amount of bacteria left in a yolk may not affect us as humans, it could harm them. I also keep that in mind, when feeding certain fruit and veggies that are know to contain the highest amounts of pesticides. They "statistically" don't harm us. But personally, I think they do long term. And for our tiny fuzzies, I think it probably affects them a lot faster since they're so small. So for the highest pesticide containing foods I try to buy organic when they're available if I can. Just my opinion.....


Edited by yiyo (08/25/11 01:03 PM)
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#1166159 - 08/25/11 05:10 PM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: Dancing]
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Originally Posted By: Dancing
With "over easy" eggs, the yolks still have the potential for carrying live salmonella bacteria. It isn't recommended for anyone or any species to eat raw/undercooked eggs.

agree
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#1166326 - 08/26/11 03:57 AM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: yiyo]
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Originally Posted By: yiyo
That's actually a good question and a good answer. Keep in mind the size of our sugar gliders. thumb

Even thought the amount of bacteria left in a yolk may not affect us as humans, it could harm them. I also keep that in mind, when feeding certain fruit and veggies that are know to contain the highest amounts of pesticides. They "statistically" don't harm us. But personally, I think they do long term. And for our tiny fuzzies, I think it probably affects them a lot faster since they're so small. So for the highest pesticide containing foods I try to buy organic when they're available if I can. Just my opinion.....


Yep.

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#1166370 - 08/26/11 08:48 AM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
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Registered: 03/30/10
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I definitely understand the point about the hazardous bacteria and I would never give my babies raw egg, but when I read this post, a question popped into my head: don't they eat raw egg and other creatures in the wild? Wouldn't their bodies be more combative of harmful bacteria than ours?

I know that this is the case with dogs, cats, and other animals, I do not see why it wouldn't be the same for sugar gliders.

Obviously, it is a dumb risk to take, since it doesn't take much to cook an egg, but I was just wondering. smile
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#1166375 - 08/26/11 09:12 AM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
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Registered: 03/14/11
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Are any of you gliders wild caught? I assume not. How then would they have built up an "immunity" to these bacteria when they have never been exposed to them?
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#1166383 - 08/26/11 09:39 AM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
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Most dogs, cats, and other domestic animals are not wild caught and they have an innate "immunity" to to these bacteria.

In fact, it is not actually an immunity per se, because it is not the white blood cells in these animals that fight off the bacterial infection. It is actually the acidity in their GI tract that does not allow the bacteria to thrive an infect the body. Most animals have this system that kills off most (not all) bacteria before it can even multiply through the body and become an infection.

And again, I was just wondering out loud to get people's opinion. That in no way means that I would ever try to give my babies raw anything!
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#1166413 - 08/26/11 10:31 AM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
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It is actually the acidity in their GI tract that does not allow the bacteria to thrive an infect the body.


Dogs CAN get salmonella. So can gliders. (so can humans). They can also get other food born illnesses including campylobacter and most seriously, e.coli. Each of these are destroyed by high temperatures. That is why it is important to fully cook meats/eggs.
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#1166557 - 08/26/11 05:02 PM Re: Egg yolk? [Re: JazzNZoeysMom]
JillMarie Offline
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Loc: New Jersey
I have a few books on the topic of wild animals using plants as healing aids, etc. Turns out that wild animals may not be handling the bacteria/parasite any better than a domestic one, but instead they instinctively know what to eat/avoid to either avoid getting sick or to help them get better if they are sick.

Personally, if it is risky for humans to eat undercooked eggs, I certainly am not going to risk giving it to my gliders. But to each their own.
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