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#1177267 - 09/29/11 10:41 PM Danger of Wax Worms
chattrbabe Offline
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Registered: 08/10/08
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Loc: Phoenix AZ


Not sure how many people know what the above photo is. These are called wax worms.

I will not be feeding them to my gliders, any-longer. I usually feed them to Boomer, for his teeth. He has only a few teeth left, and they are soft enough that he can nom them with no issues, and they won’t cut his gums like regular worms.

Well, I had all three boys out – sitting at my desk and I was feeding each boy their worms. Doodle and Ranger were getting giants and Boomer, the waxies.

Well, I went to put the pouch up, but Ranger wanted just one more worm. (please mom????) I had Ranger his worm, Doodle a worm, and offer one more to Boomer. Boomer was hunched over and making a weird hissing noise. He flings back a little and faces me, showing me a VERY purple nose.

Grab him out, and try to figure out what the deal is, while heading out the door to the vet. All of a sudden, he opens his mouth, and at the back and side of his cheek, is the end of a wax worm. I had to get him to open his mouth, which, at that point, was easy… I pulled it out and BOOM, Boomer was fine.

Now, I have heard of this happening before, and the person uses tweezers now, when she feeds wax worms to her gliders.

I personally, will not be feeding them at all, anymore. What if I decided to put the worms in foraging cups, and wasn’t here? What if I had put the pouch back, and walked out of the room? What if I put the pouch back, assumed Boomer was looking for more worms at the bottom of the pouch, and turned music on?

Boomer is fine, chirping and sleeping and grooming away, in the pouch. I wanted to post this warning, as many people like to give their gliders new treats. Boomer, on the other hand, will be getting hand squeezed mealies... blech!!! roflmao

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#1177276 - 09/29/11 11:03 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
DCMuffin Offline
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Registered: 03/21/10
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Oh my gosh, Ash!!!! How scary!!!!! I haven't fed them and jeez, after hearing this, can't say I'll be racing to get any anytime soon! You know, it seems to be that I heard a story like this one other time. Can't remember who it was, but it's eerily similar. Ugh...so sorry you had such a scare!!!! hug2
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#1177281 - 09/29/11 11:14 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
minkasmom Offline
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Registered: 11/08/04
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Loc: Northeast Indiana
Blessings to your "glider guardian angel" who lives in your house! hug2 She told you NOT to put them away yet....so you could see Boomer's distress and DO SOMETHING QUICKLY to help! jump

And blessings on Ranger for being a "mealie hog"! grin

How about the freshly-shed white mealies? Or aliens? I've had a young man who had blood blisters all over the top of his mouth (from what? dunno, never figured it out) and those were what I fed HIM while he was healing....


Edited by minkasmom (09/29/11 11:15 PM)
Edit Reason: Afterthought
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#1177290 - 09/29/11 11:32 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
BindiAndScrubbie Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
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Wow! That's pretty scary. I've fed waxworms too. So did he have the entire worm stuck in there whole?
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#1177311 - 09/30/11 12:13 AM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
chattrbabe Offline
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Loc: Phoenix AZ
For the most part, yes. I thought at first, that maybe it was just a small part stuck, and once I started pulling it out, it took a second or two to stop coming! After emptied out, the 'casing' was about the length of a small mealie.
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#1177361 - 09/30/11 02:41 AM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
chattrbabe Offline
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Registered: 08/10/08
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Loc: Phoenix AZ
Okay, in the photo below, is the waxie that got stuck in his throat. I went to toss something in the trash, and it was still stuck to the side of the bag. LoL. Now, when i pulled it out of his mouth / throat, it was much thinner.

shakehead


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Description: waxie that was stuck in Boomer's throat


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#1177365 - 09/30/11 03:13 AM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
JillMarie Offline
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Registered: 01/03/09
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Loc: New Jersey
I wonder if roasted wax worms would be safer? I used to feed them and stopped just because they seemed to like the roasted mealworms better and I didnt like the smell of the roasted waxworms. The outside of the roasted ones was almost crumbly in consistency.

I am glad your Boomer is fine!
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#1177376 - 09/30/11 05:32 AM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 5830
Loc: USA
So glad he is okay!! I stopped feeding them because this happened to one of my gliders about 2 years ago. Also, Pappy (Mary) almost lost a glider that got choked on a wax worm and had to rescuscitate her after getting it out with tweezers (plastic)! The skins are so elastic on those bugs and can cut off the airway FAST! frown
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#1177407 - 09/30/11 08:43 AM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
silverwolf Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
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Loc: Utah
I also almost lost a glider to wax worms and had to do the same thing with digging it out I will never feed them again because of this I personally just dont think they are safe at all

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#1177472 - 09/30/11 02:45 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
Meg_n_Von Offline
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Registered: 05/15/09
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Loc: Vulcan, MO
Wow, that's scary! SO glad you checked on him and was able to relieve him. Ugh, that would scare me to death! I definitely wont be buying any wax worms anytime soon...
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#1177473 - 09/30/11 02:46 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
JillMarie Offline
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Loc: New Jersey
so does anyone think the roasted wax worms would be better?
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#1177480 - 09/30/11 02:52 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
silverwolf Offline
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I dont know about roasted wax worms my gliders wont eat anything dead so roasted anything is out for me

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#1177494 - 09/30/11 03:08 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
sugarlope Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 19735
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Roasted wax worms are hard and crunchy, so no, I don't think they would have the same problem with them. I usually try to let the wax worms turn into moths before feeding - moths are a great enrichment for them and they are healthier and less risky. thumb
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#1177496 - 09/30/11 03:10 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
JillMarie Offline
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I would love to do that. But where to buy healthy wax worms? then feed and care for them...oh dear knowing me I would name them and then they would become pets. Nope. Cant you just send me some moths Gretchen?
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#1177506 - 09/30/11 03:26 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
Feather Offline
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Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 12185
Loc: Wisconsin
I am glad your little guy is fine and that the glider angels were watching over both of you today.

I will continue to feed wax worms but I have always fed them the following way:

I HANG ONTO THE WORM WHILE THEY EAT IT! Allowing them to only take a bit at a time.

Our beloved Pat, OzziTap, would feed them to his guys and he was always afraid that they would choke on them because they inhaled them so fast that he cut them into little pieces.

That is another option if you want to continue feeding wax worms.

I like feeding them to my little Jadzia when she is pregnant and nursing.

As with feeding any treat that your gliders love use caution. I have one that will stick the whole yoggie in his mouth. I know hold the yoggie while he eats them, I don't want to fish a yoggie out of his throat.
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#1177652 - 09/30/11 09:55 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: silverwolf]
Meg_n_Von Offline
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Loc: Vulcan, MO
Originally Posted By: silverwolf
I dont know about roasted wax worms my gliders wont eat anything dead so roasted anything is out for me


My gliders are the same way. tounge
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#1177676 - 09/30/11 10:48 PM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
heidi Offline
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Registered: 10/08/09
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Loc: conway south carolina/ us
im so glad boomer is fine

we live on roasted worms here,noone eats caned anything.mine cry when moths are in the tent to play with,they hide and make the mama sound,but will chase crickets for hours. how funny are my kids???oh yhea i havent fed wax worms in over two years
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#1177705 - 10/01/11 01:51 AM Re: Danger of Wax Worms [Re: chattrbabe]
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Originally Posted By: silverwolf
I dont know about roasted wax worms my gliders wont eat anything dead so roasted anything is out for me





I thought the exact same thing until Jill Marie sent me a sample of roasted mealworms with my order and to my suprise they love them!!

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