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#1243604 - 03/28/12 02:03 PM Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!!
LabNGliderMom Offline
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WARNING - GRAPHIC PHOTOS OF SURGICAL PROCEDURE IN THIS ALBUM! BEWARE SUGAR GLIDER OWNERS - UNSAFE CHAIN!!

This chain was purchased from Mr. Chain by Davie of Spoiled Rotten Suggies. (PLEASE NOTE: Davie is NOT responsible in ANY way for this issue!! This is a MANUFACTURING ERROR and not an assembly error!) Davie had previously advised Mr. Chain's service agent (Shirley) about the chain, and was advised that their chain quality was decreasing because the chains are being made from old molds... this results in SHARP POINTS (aka burs) on the ends of the links and some links are actually arriving to Davie ATTACHED (almost melted together Davie says) to one another. If the burs (points) are not removed with nippers or a Dremel tool BEFORE USE IN GLIDER toys, your gliders could be cut, poked, scratched, stabbed, or otherwise injured, possibly resulting in self mutilation as happened to my Dayana this morning. Davie already does this... but the toy that possibly injured Dayana was made BEFORE the problem was noticed and addressed with Mr. Chain. Davie is aware of this problem - she has contacted Mr. Chain again today asking if their molds have been replaced yet, as she was promised previously that they would be. I am sure she will be along to post once she gets a response from them. In the meantime, PLEASE BE CAREFUL!! If you use this chain (named "Gothic Chain") or any chain from Mr. Chain for that matter (just to be safer) PLEASE check the ENDS of EACH LINK for burs (points) and nip them off or file them down before use!

http://s789.photobucket.com/albums/yy174...yanas%20Injury/
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#1243609 - 03/28/12 02:10 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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hug2 Poor baby! That looks so painful. Thank you for the warning, I am going in now to check all my toys. Hoping for a full and very quick recovery for your Dayana. hug2
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#1243611 - 03/28/12 02:18 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Oh my goodness! Thanks for head heads up and I'll keep Dayana in my thoughts for a speedy recovery! How's she doing? Poor baby. Those pictures look so painful. frown
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#1243613 - 03/28/12 02:19 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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OMG!!! I am so sorry your little one and you had to go through that!! That looks so horrible!!! :-( my best wishes to you both! I am going to double check every toy I own now !!!
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#1243615 - 03/28/12 02:25 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: sweetbabies]
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How did the injury happen? Was she trying to jump off or land on the toy?

I know it doesn't matter. Its just the injury seems so severe I wanted to know where to check the toys for possible points of injury...
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#1243620 - 03/28/12 02:28 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
yiyo Offline
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Oh no! That's absolutely horrifying cry cry Sorry you're having to deal with this frown

Hopefully Dayana has some REALLY good pain meds because that looks awfully painful. Best wishes to her for a full and quick recovery hug2
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#1243623 - 03/28/12 02:37 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: sitkasmom]
etrnalsunshinee Offline
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Originally Posted By: sitkasmom
How did the injury happen? Was she trying to jump off or land on the toy?

I know it doesn't matter. Its just the injury seems so severe I wanted to know where to check the toys for possible points of injury...


Originally Posted By: LabNGliderMom
your gliders could be cut, poked, scratched, stabbed, or otherwise injured, possibly resulting in self mutilation as happened to my Dayana this morning.


I think it was a small injury that led to SM which made it that horrible, poor baby cry I'm so sorry for her. Prayers and good thought sent...


Edited by etrnalsunshinee (03/28/12 03:17 PM)
Edit Reason: Added quote to clarify my response
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#1243629 - 03/28/12 02:52 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: etrnalsunshinee]
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Poor Poor baby cry

I will be praying for both of you hug2
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#1243635 - 03/28/12 03:05 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Wow poor baby, that looks so painful.
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#1243647 - 03/28/12 03:48 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: etrnalsunshinee]
LabNGliderMom Offline
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Originally Posted By: etrnalsunshinee
Originally Posted By: sitkasmom
How did the injury happen? Was she trying to jump off or land on the toy?

I know it doesn't matter. Its just the injury seems so severe I wanted to know where to check the toys for possible points of injury...


Originally Posted By: LabNGliderMom
your gliders could be cut, poked, scratched, stabbed, or otherwise injured, possibly resulting in self mutilation as happened to my Dayana this morning.


I think it was a small injury that led to SM which made it that horrible, poor baby cry I'm so sorry for her. Prayers and good thought sent...


They took reset parts off of a toy and used them as nesting material inside their pouch - as many gliders often do. Apparently a scratch from the sharp part caused her to over groom is all we can figure. frown
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#1243650 - 03/28/12 03:53 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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I am so sorry cry Poor Booger!!

I am praying for a speedy recovery for you both hug2
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#1243655 - 03/28/12 04:10 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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#1243663 - 03/28/12 04:46 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Sending prayers and hugs!
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#1243669 - 03/28/12 05:06 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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What a shame, I am so sorry she had to go thru this. I hope all will be well very soon.
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#1243684 - 03/28/12 06:29 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Poor baby, hope she heals quickly and without any further issues!

Thanks for the warning on the chain!
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#1243715 - 03/28/12 08:16 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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That is so sad! I hope she recovers quickly! hug2

I am going to check all the toys I have now!
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#1243765 - 03/28/12 10:37 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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frown aww it looks bad...hope she gets better soon. Please keep us posted.
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#1243766 - 03/28/12 10:38 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
LabNGliderMom Offline
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Thanks everyone... Dayana is still hanging in there... she has ripped off the gauze, though I think that was the point - something other than herself for her to focus on. I think she and I are going to have a long night together... please keep the prayers and positive thoughts coming... Dapple's daughter is counting on that positive energy to get her through this... I will update again in the morning...
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#1243770 - 03/28/12 10:46 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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I am so sorry this is happening to this little one! I do want to thank you for posting the photos (even though they are VERY graphic). It shows everyone just how badly and how quickly a glider can self mutilate.

My best thoughts and prayers for her and her quick healing.
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#1243776 - 03/28/12 11:00 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Thank you so much for the update. I will be anxiously waiting for the next update on Dayana. So sorry that you guys are going through this.
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#1243852 - 03/29/12 09:37 AM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Stayed up most of the night with Dayana... she is NOT happy about taking her meds... she also got the gauze off entirely and the shoulder area looks a bit red and raw this morning... the rest looks LICKED but not CHEWED. She did eat but not much. She is well hydrated.

I have called the vet - he is in the field today - I am waiting for him to return my call to see if he wants anything else done right now. She is sleeping at the moment, but I don't imagine she is getting as much rest as she should either as I can't seem to stop peeking in to check on her :-P

Meanwhile I want to be perfectly clear - I am NOT blaming the CHAIN or the TOY MAKER.

As I stated in the original post, the chain links with the sharp parts are the only "obvious" injury-causing item found inside the cage and in fact inside the pouch itself... it is also possible that she scratched herself with her own nail or that one of her cage mates scratched her with their nails while jockeying for position in the pouch.

The point of the post was not to cause a panic or point fingers or place blame. It was to let people know to go over their toys and chains no matter the kind, type, size, manufacturer or assembler and make sure all rough/sharp places are filed down or cut off just in case that was what caused this. Even if it did not cause this it certainly could have done so, or could have caused another issue like a damaged eye or a puncture wound if I had not found and removed the link.

I did not post at ALL until AFTER I contacted the toymaker, who had already contacted the chain manufacturer. In fact, my original post I had planned left out the toy maker's name entirely, but after speaking with her, she wanted it known that she had contacted the manufacturer, which necessitated adding her name to the post and then we deiced together that the wording as it ended up getting posted was what worked best to convey the intended message of caution. it seems a few people got their feathers ruffled thinking I was blaming her, and I am NOT. I love her toys I love her pouches I love her products and she is also a personal friend. I still recommend buying from her and plan to continue doing so myself as well. She is in NO WAY responsible for this issue.
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#1243863 - 03/29/12 10:13 AM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
yiyo Offline
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Originally Posted By: LabNGliderMom

it seems a few people got their feathers ruffled thinking I was blaming her


You made it perfectly clear you weren't doing that in your original post. So FOOEY ON THEM for taking attention away from what this is really about, which is what's "for the good of the glider". I'm sure most everyone appreciates the warning and reminder how vigilant we all need to be checking the safety of our gliders environment.

Hoping Dayana is able to get some well needed rest and get better really soon hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2
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#1243873 - 03/29/12 11:02 AM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: yiyo]
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Originally Posted By: yiyo
Originally Posted By: LabNGliderMom

it seems a few people got their feathers ruffled thinking I was blaming her


You made it perfectly clear you weren't doing that in your original post. So FOOEY ON THEM for taking attention away from what this is really about, which is what's "for the good of the glider". I'm sure most everyone appreciates the warning and reminder how vigilant we all need to be checking the safety of our gliders environment.

Hoping Dayana is able to get some well needed rest and get better really soon hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2


:agreed:

I am praying for her and you smile Thanks and Praise to you AND Davie for being concerned about everyones gliders and posting this.
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#1243908 - 03/29/12 01:31 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Davie's toys ARE AWESOME. I have many here and wish I could have about 50 more! (dang bank account!).

I am so surprised anyone jumped to the conclusion that you were trying to place any blame. I certainly did not take it that way. I applaud both you and Davie for bringing it to our attention as well as taking the issue to the manufacturer of the chain. IF the chain caused this, the manufacturer is now aware and hopefully will take steps to fix the problem.


As we go along with our gliders, we learn. We have learned that all "mating wounds" may not be from "mating" but could be from joeys hanging on to mom/dad for rides (their little nails are so sharp!). We learn that facial abcesses are NOT always from dry food (it could be from nothing but soft foods and their teeth going bad). And with your poor little girl, we learned there COULD be injuries from such small things as a "burr" on a plastic toy. (IF that is what caused it, if not, we need to be aware it MIGHT).

I don't wish this type of injury on anyone or any animal. My prayers continue...
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#1243935 - 03/29/12 02:39 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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She's pulling the staples :-( The top part is pretty raw and the whole thing looks kind of icky. My vet wants me to stay the course for the moment. I'm trying to keep her calm and give her the pain meds... the more she sleeps the less she messes with it. At least she isn't ripping into the flesh or her stitches.

These are pics from today. Some are very graphic but way less so than yesterday:

http://s789.photobucket.com/albums/yy174...jury%20Day%202/
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#1243948 - 03/29/12 03:02 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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This just makes my heart hurt so much for her.
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#1243952 - 03/29/12 03:06 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Julie, have you discussed the use of Vetericyn VF with the vet? I ask because this wound is equally (compared to size) as the one my horse had. I SWEAR by the healing powers the Vetericyn had on the horse. I've used it on mating wounds as well and they heal so much faster. It can be used on deep wounds like this.

And while I've never tried it, you might want to ask the vet about using Manuka Honey on the wound.
http://manukahoney.com/
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#1243988 - 03/29/12 04:03 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
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Originally Posted By: LabNGliderMom
She's pulling the staples :-( The top part is pretty raw and the whole thing looks kind of icky. My vet wants me to stay the course for the moment. I'm trying to keep her calm and give her the pain meds... the more she sleeps the less she messes with it. At least she isn't ripping into the flesh or her stitches.

These are pics from today. Some are very graphic but way less so than yesterday:

http://s789.photobucket.com/albums/yy174...jury%20Day%202/



I think you should go back to the vet with those staples.

My little Buddie had a bad wound like that. He didn't heal well and with the second surgery they tried staples. Those were very painfull. He had to have the staples removed and back to surgery for debreading and more stitches.

You did a wonderful job telling everyone what had happened. I don't feel you have pointed fingers at anyone.

Hope she gets better soon! hug2
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#1244005 - 03/29/12 05:28 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom]
yiyo Offline
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Poor thing! Definitely push the pain meds, that looks so painful frown
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#1244056 - 03/29/12 10:22 PM Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: yiyo]
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So sorry to hear about your baby. Hope she gets well soon. As a vendor I have been told it is our responsibility to check every single inch of our toys and products before they go out for possible issues that could arise. I'm not pointing any fingers I'm just going off what I was told. I hope everyone that has this chain is pulling the toys out checking. I quit using most any chain ages ago I use fleece braids in their place. Give that baby lots of love.
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