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#1375452 - 08/03/14 10:20 PM Help input please!!!!!
kittybaran Offline
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Registered: 09/29/08
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Loc: arizona
My cancer glider Crab got into a hole in the wall the stupid contractor left. I had taped the dry wall in place until I could move all the gliders out to have the wall replace. Crab found it last night. I have put holes in the wall all over the place at different levels. I hear no noise amd I can hear house gecko barking in the walls. I've stung christmas light to light up the holes. There is not rhymn or reason to the placement of the 2x2s so her containment with in a specific area of the wall is unknown. I've place food inside the wall and have uncovered a hole in another room that I put there as a kid and covered it so my parents wouldn't find out and dropped the folding ladder in another room incase she had acsses to the attic. I've place food and water in both of those rooms. Still no Crab and I can't hear anything. Any suggestions as to how long I should wait to see if she shows up? Any idea on how to find her? And please, please prayer for her safe return. She does not eat bugs so she has no food source with in the wall. I'm worried sick. So are the other gliders. They all seem to know something is wrong.

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#1375458 - 08/04/14 04:34 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
JillMarie Offline
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I have had no real experience in this, but I would not put lights by the holes. Gliders being nocturnal would avoid an area brightly lit, and you WANT her to come out of the holes. Thinking along those lines, I also would not put food IN the walls, not only will it attract bugs, but if she has food in there, why would she want to come out?

Put a pouch she likes and food and water outside the walls and away from the holes a bit to encourage her to come out.

Do not do any laundry or throw anything away until you find her.

Hopefully someone with more experience in this area will chime in with better help.

Praying for you and her.
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#1375467 - 08/04/14 07:51 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
yiyo Offline
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Sorry to hear about your little one frown

I agree with the above. You'll want to coax her out of the walls so putting food inside or lights probably wouldn't help with that.

Any luck thru the night finding her?
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#1375470 - 08/04/14 08:29 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
kittybaran Offline
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I don't hear anything in the walls. I put the lights in the wall to hoepfully draw her, because there is a tree in the bedroom with colored chrisrtmas lights on it. I will take the lights away, but I hear nothing. Its been 2 days and she is a glider who does not eat bugs. I've had this happen before in a house that was actuall constructed in an intellegent manner, so there was containment in. Rectangular sections and this house is not that way.
Juno had decided to enlarge a nail hole and I was able to tear out the dry wall and just grab him. Thank you for the input.

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#1375482 - 08/04/14 03:06 PM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
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Registered: 01/16/14
Posts: 25
Loc: Triad Area, North Carolina
Lack of water would become a problem for her before food would. These ideas might sound really far-fetched, but they might trigger another thought. All mammals despise the smell of adult male human urine. That scent will drive them away (old exterminator trick for getting raccoons and night squirrels to go 'anywhere else but where you are'). It has to be male and it has to be adult, but no small mamal will remain near it. I have a cheap wi-fi camera that will send an e-mail or a text when motion is detected - it is instantaneous and even a flutter sets it off. I could see potiential for that being useful. That camera is also has night vision - the slightest amount of light in pitch black can be seen - she can't hide her eyes from it. I am thinking about an apple slice / hunk of avocado / favorite food with a bell dangling that, if touched, will fall and be heard. There are also humane mouse traps at any walmart - they walk in after a treat and their weight closes the door behind - then she'll scream for you. Won't work if there is no room to work with or if she is too large. Blacklights are good - a little 75 watt incandescent blacklight bulb could help you without driveing her away. Is she friendly to you. If so, your stinky socks might help her find her way. Once she starts to panic a bit, she'll use her nose. Did you say you can/can't hear her barking in the wall? If I told my dog (part hound) to tell me where my suggie was, she dang sure would. Think about any sound, smell, sight that she would recognize as safety and use it to your advantage. Also, do not panic if you see her - she'll sense it and things could get tough. Does she have a mate? As tough as it sounds, if he's making distress sounds, she'll show up. Consider zipping him up in a bag near the hole you want her out in.
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#1375495 - 08/04/14 07:25 PM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
kittybaran Offline
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Loc: arizona
My dear Crab is dead. I crawled into the nasty attic crawl space, covered in spiders, webs dust and heat. I found what appeared to be tracks on a pipe that lead to a hole where the pipe exited the house. I followed the pipe as it wrapped around the house and descended to the ground. I found her ant covered body under the orange tree. By the amount of decomp she was probably killed the morning she crawled through the hole in the wall. That explainss why I could not hear her in the walls.
Every glider is speacial, but some require more attention than others. Crab would not eat bugs [censored] all the other ones loved so I had to boil her chicken and turkey. She would not eat her food unless it was seperated so the different fruit and veggies were stacked in seperate piles and the meat could not tough the side dishes. This isn't all in my head I'm serious...this was who Crab was. I kept ensure as aa base food, because I always knew she would drink that if her system was upset . After the cancer surgery her glider family did want her so she was alone in the cage and she hated that. That's why every morning I got up at 3:30am to let her out of the cage to run and be nearer other gliders. I had the room glider proof, but I knew it was always a risk, but my concerns were that another glider may bite her not that a stupid incompetant contractor would put a hole in the wall and the super taped up drywall would fail. If I could only go back in time. frown.........

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#1375500 - 08/04/14 08:01 PM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
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I'm so sorry for your loss. hug2
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#1375513 - 08/05/14 06:30 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
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Registered: 01/08/14
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Loc: Alabama
So sorry for your loss!
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#1375515 - 08/05/14 06:54 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
yiyo Offline
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Loc: Long Island, NY
hug2 hug2
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#1375523 - 08/05/14 10:04 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
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I am very sorry for your loss. May you find comfort and peace in your memories of her.

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#1375532 - 08/05/14 01:11 PM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
ApacheOEM Offline
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Loc: Triad Area, North Carolina
I'm very sad to see this KittyBaran. - Rick
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#1375537 - 08/05/14 03:07 PM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: ApacheOEM]
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So very sorry for your loss hug2
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#1375572 - 08/06/14 05:27 AM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: kittybaran]
JillMarie Offline
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Loc: New Jersey
I am so sorry frown
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#1376080 - 08/16/14 07:58 PM Re: Help input please!!!!! [Re: JillMarie]
Kesha Offline
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Registered: 11/28/13
Posts: 193
Loc: Georgia
I'm sorry to hear about your lost. Remember the good memories. My prayers are with you.

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