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#1382984 - 11/28/14 08:33 AM I'm a stranger
JenK Offline
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Registered: 02/16/14
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Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone could brainstorm with me. Over the past week Olly and Oscar have been waking later (we are off schedule). During the time change, they seemed to wake earlier, which I expected. However, over the past week both are waking later, I mean much later. I have been taking their pouch out with them in it during our regularly scheduled playtime. They wake, see me, say hello, all seems well, but they don't come out to play. Oscar will come out to explore a bit but then finds a place to snuggle up.

It's Olly I have concerns about. He wakes late, stays in his pouch, or if he does come out of the pouch, he runs to snuggle spot in a fleece blanket and is completely content staying there. Like he's isolating himself.

When I come in to clean and let them out in the morning, same thing. Oscar will do the usual, play and eat his snack; Olly runs to his spot and doesn't want to come out. He will eat his snack if I hand it to him. Last night after holding their pouch with them in it during our playtime, I put them back and I went back in their room around 2am to see if they were up and playing- they were, so I opened their cage for them to come out. Oscar was all about it, but Olly just clung to the side of the cage like he didn't know me.

That's about how I feel, I feel like Olly doesn't know me anymore. There is no biting or crabbing, I can still interact with both just fine, but I have no idea what's up with this behavior.

PS - It has been colder and Oscar is a bit 'fluffier' than Olly if this matters.

They are eating fine. I have no idea?? Anyone have any suggestions or experiences to help out?

Definitely wasn't expecting this to be that long of a post...

THANKS for reading in advance smile


Edited by JenK (11/28/14 09:35 AM)
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#1383065 - 11/28/14 03:29 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
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Hi JenK: If it isn't a medical problem,then I would look at your interaction schedule or ANY tiny changes. He may be depressed because of a change in your carrying or playing/handling.

I had two girls that would not eat as much if they didn't get a full Daddy day in pocket. It would happen about 3-5 days apart. They were my ambassadors in public settings.

Have you moved cage location, like from living room to an isolated room?
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#1383071 - 11/28/14 04:02 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
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You mentioned the cold-- how much has the indoor temperature changed? It could be that Olly is trying to stay in warm bedding.
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#1383084 - 11/28/14 04:57 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
JenK Offline
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Hmm,cage location hasn't changed. Our play schedule hasn't changed. I've kept to our schedule, it's good for us both 😊 I'm in Florida so it is 55 degrees currently, but I've kept the house at 75 degrees.

You have given me some things to really think about. I know the last time I had a concern about biting, about a year ago, it took very careful observation on my part to determine the reason.

Thanks!


Edited by JenK (11/28/14 05:00 PM)
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#1383086 - 11/28/14 05:19 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
JenK Offline
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Olly is out for playtime but runs for cover wherever possible. I just put him inside my hooded sweatshirt and he's content and clicking away. But still he's not himself, not playing with Oscar or romping. Well he just took off from my hoody...ugh


Edited by JenK (11/28/14 05:21 PM)
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#1383089 - 11/28/14 05:44 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
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How would I know if Olly is depressed? Signs and or symptoms? Remedies?
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#1383092 - 11/28/14 05:59 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
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Jen, I would consider getting a check up for him, just for peace of mind, to rule out any medical condition.

I'm not sure I remember the details of how old Olly is, but maybe there are phases they go through, all of my gliders were about a year or older when I homed them, so I have no experience with younger suggies.

Another thing to consider is it's getting darker outside earlier, maybe it could be an adjustment period. My brats have been going through a lot of changes in the past year, adapting well, but they have changed they're waking and eating schedule a few different times. I know you mentioned you haven't changed anything, but daylight hours have changed and maybe he is more sensitive to those changes.

I hope you find some answers and can have your worries eased.
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#1383103 - 11/28/14 06:51 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
JenK Offline
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Yeah a check sounds good. I have had the boys just about a year (Dec. 3rd will be the one year anniversary of becoming a suggie mama smile ) They were oop Oct. 30thish 2013.

Their fur looks healthy, Olly's interactions are good with myself and Oscar, feces look solid, food is being eaten as are snacks. Olly just seems to isolate himself.

I have witnessed a puberty phase with the nipping and biting, that went away. I wonder if there is a young adult phase? Oscar is the protector and will go to the pouch with Olly, so I haven't the slightest clue.

Will Oscar be affected by this ?

Terry, your little trio seem to do well with changes and I can't figure the change in my boys environment except for weather and daylight.. :/


Edited by JenK (11/28/14 07:02 PM)
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#1383252 - 11/30/14 07:27 PM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
JenK Offline
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Loc: Fort Myers, Florida
Check-up went well, both are healthy smile so I rearranged their play toys in the room and their cage. I do this about 1 time a month, but thought I would see how Olly reacted. Maybe he is bored.

Well Olly is out and about and being the typical wild man smile

He's still a bit skittish, so I will monitor my behavior (in case I'm doing something that affects him) as well as his.

Thanks for the insight!
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#1383262 - 12/01/14 03:53 AM Re: I'm a stranger [Re: JenK]
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I'm glad to hear all is well.
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