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#1399703 - 02/27/16 11:03 PM Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage)
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I'm just wondering, a long time ago I used to hear a lot about home making a cage and reptariums but now I never hear anything about them. If I remember right, you could make a reptarium with plastic screen or something and pvc pipe? Did something happen while I wasn't active that makes people no longer want to use these?

I will be traveling in May, and with throwing away the old cage that used to barely fit in my car and getting the huge Critter Nation cage, I definitely need something to use for travel. I've seen people using those popup dog crates but those just seem so flimsy? I feel like making something with a strong PVC frame and sturdy screen would be better?

Any insights on travel cages and whatever happened to reptariums would be great!
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#1399711 - 02/28/16 08:26 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I have this cage for long trips, and a pop up kennel for when we get there. I place this cage ( with the door open )inside the pop up (on it's side), and add their wheel in it's stand. It gives them things to do and explore the outside of the smaller cage.

http://m.petsmart.com/h5/hub?id=supplies...var_id=36-14481

I tossed the tunnel wheel and water bottle. The biggest drawback of this cage is the door. It's hard to get them in there while in sleeping pouch without being disturbed. I use fleece cut to fit the bottom, as it doesn't have a floor grate. I feel better about them in the backseat buckled into something a bit more significant than a collapsable carrier. If for no other reason than luggage/stuff shifting around them. I haven't made a cover for it, I just cover with a fleece blanket to keep the sun and draft away.

They didn't have this one instock or I would have gotten it. The door is on the top. I would toss all the stuff that it comes with except the shelf.

http://m.petsmart.com/h5/hub?id=supplies%2Fcages%2Fgrreat-choice-hamster-starter-kit-zid36-20376%2Fcat-36-catid-600022%3Fvar_id%3D36-20376

as far as the reptarium and home made cages, they will be back for discussion soon I'm sure. Vacation time is just around the corner...

I think Karen (owner) used reptarian cages at one time-she might still use them. Hopefully she can give you some insight.
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#1399713 - 02/28/16 10:20 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Ladymagyver]
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Great memory, Dawn, however the mesh that mine were made from hasn't been available for a very long time. The mesh used now isn't glider safe.

Hang on for a bit while I follow a lead for you all grin

In the meantime, here is a discussion that might be helpful.


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#1399714 - 02/28/16 10:52 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: KarenE]
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The Glide-arium is the best option for mesh enclosures made specifically for sugar gliders.
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#1399720 - 02/28/16 02:07 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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so there is no glider-safe mesh available to make a "reptarium" myself? That's what I was really hoping for, to make something out of mesh and PVC that was small enough to fit in my car or comes apart somewhat easily to fit in my car broken down.
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#1399721 - 02/28/16 02:18 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: KarenE]
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Wow! Those Glide-ariums are cool! smile

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#1399722 - 02/28/16 02:51 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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Have you done an Archive search?
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#1399724 - 02/28/16 03:34 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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Dallie put an ad in the classifieds today she is making them.
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#1399733 - 02/28/16 06:16 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Feather]
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I personally have one of those Glide-Ariums for a vacation cage. It served my trio well for vacations and even cross-country moves (2x) so far.
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#1399736 - 02/28/16 08:06 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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The archive search never seemed to work well for me, but I did do a google search with the query "site:glidercentral.net reptarium". I didn't really find anything that was helpful except something that said some mesh was not glider safe but I'm not really sure which mesh in particular they were talking about.

Because some mesh is unsafe, I'm kind of wary about trusting archive topics anyway.

I saw Dallie's post, but I am looking to try to make my own, if I can gather enough information to do so.
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#1399740 - 02/28/16 11:15 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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Have you read this one or this one ?
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#1399750 - 02/29/16 11:08 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I had seen the first one but not the second! Is the pet screen that the second one links still glider safe?
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#1399751 - 02/29/16 11:13 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I have no reason to believe it isn't.
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#1399752 - 02/29/16 12:11 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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ok that's great! Do you know if I can basically use any PVC-coated polyester mesh? As you can probably tell, I'm a worry wart and I want to make sure my suggies are safe and happy!

Does anybody know of any in-depth tutorials for these things? I can probably figure it out myself but it would definitely be helpful to have a tutorial smile

If not, does anyone know what size PVC pipe to use? I know that if it's too skinny it probably won't be stable enough, but of course too thick would be too bulky.
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#1399753 - 02/29/16 12:18 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I believe the repts are made of 1" PVC, and they are plenty stable.

Why don't you contact Dallie who actually makes the Glide-arium and also has an ad in Glider Things wink
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#1399754 - 02/29/16 12:26 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I just thought it might be a little rude to ask someone who makes these for a living to give up her methods and possibly lose sales? But I guess I can try
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#1399755 - 02/29/16 12:55 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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The Glide-arium is a trade marked product by GliderNursery who first started making them. Dallie is her sister who now has permission to continue selling and making them as Shelly/GliderNursery no longer does.

I find no DIY tutorial for making a reptarium suitable for sugar gliders. That doesn't mean there isn't one. Just that I haven't found it.

You are probably correct about it being either rude or presumptuous to ask Dallie.
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#1399756 - 02/29/16 01:14 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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At your mention of Glider Nursery I went and found that website. I was so close but the link is broken... http://www.glidernursery.com/build-a-pvc-cage.html
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#1399757 - 02/29/16 01:42 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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There is a big difference between a PVC cage and a reptarium/glide-arium. With the rept/glide-arium the screens can be put in the washer to clean. They cannot with the PVC constructed ones like this tutorial.

That is what you would have found had the link not been frozen on Shelly's page rather than the glide-arium instructions.
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#1399758 - 02/29/16 03:15 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: KarenE]
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#1399765 - 02/29/16 07:26 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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Is there any way I could edit my original post so it includes the fact that I want to build my own rather than purchase one? It might be helpful to people who only read my original post...

Thanks for the link on the pvc cage. While it's not a "glidarium", it helps a little with the frame, at least. It also helps because it could definitely work as a substitute travel cage instead of a "glidarium".

I'm a little confused because I swear like 6 years ago when I got my first gliders I remember people all over making their own reptariums or getting "rept gear" and stuff, though I could be mistaken and it was just those PVC cages instead. It's probably just me being mistaken lol.
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#1399766 - 02/29/16 10:23 PM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I think you have been more than clear that you want to build/make your own rept type enclosure. It won't make any difference at this point if you edit your original post wink

We have been equally clear the rept mesh that was used six plus years ago is not available any longer which is basically the reason the Glide-ariums came into being.

All of the tutorials I have seen were for PVC type enclosures like I posted the link for earlier in this thread.

The tutorial for the DIY rept from Shelly's web page that no longer exists was pre Glide-arium and that person is no longer a vendor.

What you are asking for we cannot give you. It simply is not in a google search, or I have not been able to find it.

:sorry: We understand what you want, but you will have to figure it out or find an alternative.
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#1399769 - 03/01/16 12:34 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I thought I was more than clear as well but *shrug* I got a third suggestion to purchase one anyway.

I realize that you have no more information, but I have had different specific question with each reply, so I wasn't really repeating myself. What wasn't clear was that you were saying the mesh was no longer available, which sounded like it was the supplier of the mesh itself and therefore nobody could make homemade reptariums anymore with safe mesh, but I realized that was incorrect.

Thanks for trying, anyway. I was waiting around hoping someone else knew anything besides people who want to guard their business secrets even though with more research I've figured out it's cheaper to buy one from the only vendor than try to make one myself. I will probably be able to figure this out by myself anyway, but I thought that if anybody had knowledge to share, they would probably be here, and it would be better and safer to ask people with experience than try to go it alone.

I also realize that this was no simple google search. If it were, I wouldn't have posted here asking for the knowledge and expertise of fellow glider owners.
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#1399771 - 03/01/16 05:16 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: KarenE]
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With the rept/glide-arium the screens can be put in the washer to clean.



Wow I did not know they were machine washable!

I was scanning their website for how to clean and didn't find any info. Nice to know!

I'm going over to the website and ask more questions I have! ( I guess I should have done that first.)

I wasn't considering one of these untill this was posted.


Thanks Karen!
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#1399772 - 03/01/16 05:32 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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Ok, so I didn't have my reading glasses on to see the more information click here button... But still have questions...
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#1399775 - 03/01/16 09:50 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Ladymagyver]
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Ok, so I didn't have my reading glasses on to see the more information click here button... But still have questions...


Dawn,
I'm sure Dallie will be glad to answer any questions you have. Using these enclosures rather than wire cages is a little challenging but well worth it. They are perfect for travel.
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#1399776 - 03/01/16 10:02 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: KarenE]
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Originally Posted By: Takaia
I realize that you have no more information, but I have had different specific question with each reply, so I wasn't really repeating myself. What wasn't clear was that you were saying the mesh was no longer available, which sounded like it was the supplier of the mesh itself and therefore nobody could make homemade reptariums anymore with safe mesh, but I realized that was incorrect.


I thought I had referenced this archived thread explaining why the new mesh on the reptariums was no longer safe for gliders, but apparently I did not. The repts all of us were using were before this mesh change.

I ordered one just to see the difference, and it was indeed a very big difference. It might not have made a difference for my gliders since none were chewers, but still I would not have used it. It came with strings hanging everywhere, and really did not fit the frame for the size screen I ordered.

For a time after than people made the PVC enclosures until the Glide-ariums came along. I do not remember anyone making (although they may have) DIY repts prior to the Glide-ariums.

Hope that helps clear things up.
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#1399923 - 03/06/16 06:25 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Takaia]
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I did find colored mesh that is pet safe.

https://www.metroscreenworks.com/shop/in...=20a&page=2

It can be ordered by the yard, 54" wide or the roll.

I haven't checked on shipping.

Just thought you'd like to know.
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#1400596 - 03/29/16 08:22 AM Re: Do people still use reptariums? (I need a travel cage) [Re: Ladymagyver]
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Ok I didn't read the entire thread.... BUT. I use a pop up clothes hamper with the zipper top. I cut PVC to make the hamper hold its shape (so its doesn't want to collapse when gliders all climb to the top. I have used this for transport, and over night travels. It has worked great for me when the fuzzies had to come with me.
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