Sugar Glider Community Calendar

Please click here to see larger view
Articles
More coming soon!!
Today's Birthdays
KaylaJayne
Featured Member
Registered: 11/10/15
Posts: 922
Last 10 Posts
Prolapsed cloaca
by JenK
Yesterday at 05:14 AM
Gliders of the Round Table 5
by Hutch
11/17/17 04:40 PM
Pouch concerns
by Hutch
11/17/17 04:39 PM
New Cage for RV!
by Terry
11/16/17 07:44 PM
Swollen Cheek
by Feather
11/16/17 04:21 PM
Biting problems
by Feather
11/15/17 05:29 PM
Skunking
by Feather
11/15/17 05:27 PM
OM Gosh!!! Christmas Trees!
by Hutch
11/15/17 02:27 PM
New to the glider world. Looking for wisdom.
by Hutch
11/15/17 01:39 PM
wow the progams changed a lot these days
by Hutch
11/15/17 01:29 PM
Google+

Facebook
Join Us On Facebook
Topic Options
#1406959 - 01/30/17 07:23 PM Are all labels honest?
Srlb Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16752
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
So many folks talk about the Exotic Nutrition Instant HPW.

Many of you tell us they use their products because they are less expensive. We caution and tell people they are knock-offs.

Well, after all the concerns for their products, I did what they obviously did not do, nor has anyone else done and I had their Instant HPW sent in for a Nutritional Analysis to be done.

The results were.... this product doesn't come close to meeting label specs for protein, fat, calcium or phosphorus - it's looks to be diluted by about 1/2 from label specs.

Just a couple examples... They have their product listed on their label as having a crude protein % of 44% when after their product being tested twice, it is actually only 16%.

Crude Fat Minimum 13.00 % when in actuality it is only 5.6%

It was truly eye opening AND scary. Scary because it shows that they never even had their product tested before selling it.
And THIS is why I feel ANY and ALL people who develop diets or diet plans should be held accountable to do the proper testing. Or at least the minimum test of having a nutritional analysis done.
As you see on their website, it also states the Calcium and Phosphorus numbers. Please see the attached photo of their label listing.
On the Nutritional Analysis it came back as
Caclium .66%
Phosphorus .20%

Because I do not want to post the entire thing and make it public (they should pay for their own testing), but I do want everyone to see it really was done and where I am getting my numbers... I thought I would block some of the information out and show you what I have already shared with you.


_________________________
Peggy
Critter Love
Critter LoveŽ Diet Center

If you want to know what a person is like, watch how he treats others.

You'll never know what the outcome is if you don't step up and try.


Top
Current Research, Studies & Resources
#1406960 - 01/30/17 10:20 PM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: Srlb]
Pixel Offline
In Pouch

Registered: 10/30/16
Posts: 26
Loc: Texas
I don't use their products, never have.

Just wondering though. Was the product you sent in tested as dry matter or as fed? The nutritional information they listed is for a dry matter basis, so adding water would change (dilute) the nutritional content of the food. If it was tested on a dry matter basis, this is very alarming for those who feed this diet.

EDIT: Just noticed you posted this, Peggy, and with your experience with diets and especially diet production I highly doubt you would let a simple error like that slip through! Again, this is very alarming. Thank you for making this public knowledge.


Edited by Pixel (01/30/17 10:23 PM)
_________________________
Pixel, Aurora & Gaia :leu: Link :rtmo:

Top
#1406966 - 01/31/17 08:00 AM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: Pixel]
Srlb Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16752
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Yes, it was tested as dry matter. Powder only tested.

I just wonder how long it will now take them to change their labels.
_________________________
Peggy
Critter Love
Critter LoveŽ Diet Center

If you want to know what a person is like, watch how he treats others.

You'll never know what the outcome is if you don't step up and try.


Top
#1406970 - 01/31/17 09:57 AM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: Srlb]
KarenE Offline
Owner

Registered: 03/25/00
Posts: 41344
Loc: LittleRock, AR USA
Thank you, Peggy.

It may be a long time before we/you know if labels are changed.

Wonder if you will hear from them? Word does travel fast. Sometimes companies think they are just too big to be bothered with the little folks or the details shakehead
_________________________
Your Sugar Glider Resource Center
Sugar Glider Help



Top
#1406972 - 01/31/17 10:33 AM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: Srlb]
Stef333 Offline
Glider Explorer

Registered: 11/09/16
Posts: 251
Loc: Free Like the Wind!
Thanks for doing that investigation, Peggy! Gliders are lucky to have you as their advocate. smile
_________________________
:grey: Yoda (Yodiferous) :grey: Jabberwinky (Young Winkenstein)

Top
#1406973 - 01/31/17 10:38 AM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: KarenE]
Srlb Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16752
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Quote:
Sometimes companies think they are just too big to be bothered with the little folks or the details


Actually, I believe what they are doing is illegal. shock shakehead
_________________________
Peggy
Critter Love
Critter LoveŽ Diet Center

If you want to know what a person is like, watch how he treats others.

You'll never know what the outcome is if you don't step up and try.


Top
#1406974 - 01/31/17 11:26 AM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: Srlb]
KarenE Offline
Owner

Registered: 03/25/00
Posts: 41344
Loc: LittleRock, AR USA
Are all pet foods held to the same standard? I know say (example) cat, dog, cows, horses, etc are regulated, but are the smaller ones held to the same standard?

I believe they are.
_________________________
Your Sugar Glider Resource Center
Sugar Glider Help



Top
#1406976 - 01/31/17 01:25 PM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: KarenE]
Srlb Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16752
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Yes they are, however, there is a difference for "Foods" versus "Supplements" which is actually what the Instant is.

With that being said, the listings still are not supposed to be off like that.
_________________________
Peggy
Critter Love
Critter LoveŽ Diet Center

If you want to know what a person is like, watch how he treats others.

You'll never know what the outcome is if you don't step up and try.


Top
#1406977 - 01/31/17 01:51 PM Re: Are all labels honest? [Re: Srlb]
KarenE Offline
Owner

Registered: 03/25/00
Posts: 41344
Loc: LittleRock, AR USA
:thumb2:
_________________________
Your Sugar Glider Resource Center
Sugar Glider Help



Top




Moderator:  Feather, KarenE, Ladymagyver, Philwojo 
Sugar Glider Help Page



Please click above to see how you can help!!

Moon
CURRENT MOON
Who's Online
1 registered (Terry), 10 Guests and 34 Spiders online.
Key: Owner, Admin, Mod
Newest Members
Kaylae, gwenhwyfar, JJThailand, Indo253, rinna
6419 Registered Users
Forum Stats
0 posts in the last 24hrs
6420 Members
134 Forums
8944 Topics
148305 Posts

Max Online: 478 @ 07/15/07 01:24 AM
Last 10 New Topics
wow the progams changed a lot these days
by mechnut450
11/15/17 08:09 AM
Two neutered males mounting each other/fighting
by Bee
11/14/17 11:17 PM
TPG Diet
by kidqwik
11/14/17 11:06 AM
Skunking
by Kris
11/14/17 04:42 AM
New Cage for RV!
by Ladymagyver
11/14/17 03:28 AM
New to the glider world. Looking for wisdom.
by Indo253
11/14/17 01:35 AM
moving in with roommate who has a cat
by rinna
11/12/17 11:04 PM
To All Veterans
by KarenE
11/11/17 12:51 PM
Pouch concerns
by Ladymagyver
11/10/17 07:36 AM
My baby is missing!!!!!
by Charlies
11/10/17 01:52 AM
(Views)Popular Topics
I just found a lump on Timmy's chest--HELP! 20204050
Spencer needs your prayers/good thoughts 12466847
TEXAS 652250
Pitbull biter needs advice/help 598096
OHIO 511914
Member Titles 455205
MISSOURI 388517
HOLY CRACKERS AMERICAN HPW's 366027
OKLAHOMA 349321
URGENT - Genetic Flaw discovered 346999
Supported Browser
This site was tested and is best viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox



Firefox 3

Download your copy today!!!


GliderCENTRAL
©1998-2017