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#1408471 - 04/04/17 01:09 PM Another New Glider Guy Here
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We just got our first glider from a regional breeder at a local show. He's a real cutie of course. Like most newbies I'm a bit intimidated by the "bonding" period. I'm only on day 3 and although I'm making progress it seems like he'll never like me LOL.

I'm not new to exotics but I'm a chameleon guy. The glider (Dr. Cornelius Squibbles if you must know) is something my wife and kids fell in love with immediately. I think he's great and look forward to bonding with him and getting him a cage mate very soon.

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#1408472 - 04/04/17 01:40 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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#1408473 - 04/04/17 03:14 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Thanks Karen smile

I'm trying not to get too disappointed in Squibble's ornery nature but I'll be honest, it's hard. Of course like most newbies I had this fantasy that he'd just love me right away. LOL.
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#1408474 - 04/04/17 03:38 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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That's part of the allure.
You have to win them.
They make you stretch your patience and empathy.
They take some work, but it's very very rewarding.

Even once you have them sleeping on your shoulder, and letting you cuddle them, your relationship will always be a work in progress.

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#1408475 - 04/04/17 03:41 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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#1408476 - 04/04/17 03:42 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Yeah so here on day three, I get up this morning and he seems very curious to see me. He comes right up to my hand, same as yesterday. I've been putting yogurt on my fingers for him to lick, which has gone well. But no yogurt this morning. So he starts sniffing and licks and then CHOMP! Not hard, but he's clearly trying to figure out if there's some tasty treat hiding under there somewhere.

The little turd went from finger to finger chomping and gnawing. Not hard enough to break the skin but he was getting close. He wasn't angry or scared, just curious. But man I hope that stops because no way can wife or kids handle him if he does that.

And he's very crabby when he's in his felt pouch. I get that it's his safe place, but I feel like we should definitely be holding him with us when he's in pouch in order to make him comfortable with us. So I let him crab and just try not to [censored] him off too much.


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#1408479 - 04/04/17 04:08 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Welcome Aric! Is Dr. Squibbles (great name, by the way) a joey or a full-grown adult?

My boy Yoda seems to be growing out of his biting stage, which has lasted a couple of months at least. I'm still very cautious about letting his mouth get near my bare skin, but he's been more trustworthy lately.

I'm 5-6 months into my own glider servitude and we're definitely still bonding. I'm always jealous when I hear about other members of this forum who've been with their gliders for years and have built great trust with their critters, but I know it just takes time. Lots and LOTS of time. wink


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#1408480 - 04/04/17 04:12 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Stef333]
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Originally Posted By: Stef333
Welcome Aric! Is Squibbles (great name, by the way) a joey or a full-grown adult?

He is a joey. I was told he was 8 weeks old and I have no reason to doubt the breeder. I understand they crab a lot more as joeys. "Squibble" was a name suggested by one of my daughters. They love to name pets (and cars, and houses, and...) so I let them choose.

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My boy Yoda seems to be growing out of his biting stage, which has lasted a couple of months at least. I'm still very cautious about letting his mouth get near my bare skin, but he's been more trustworthy lately.

Well I hope Squibble doesn't go through that much of a phase! LOL.

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I'm 5-6 months into my own glider servitude and we're definitely still bonding. I'm always jealous when I hear about other members of this forum who've been with their gliders for years and have built great trust with their critters, but I know it just takes time. Lots and LOTS of time. wink

Yeah I kind of had the fantasy that it would just be a few days and he'd be coming out to play with us. But I'm a long haul kind of guy so I'll just keep at it.
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#1408481 - 04/04/17 05:08 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Aric hey...
IF they put their teeth on you in a way you don't like, give them a "TSSSK" and a gentle shake of the area they are biting on.

That's how their mom would say, "Hey stop that!"

Licky treats can be tricky, because in the wild, these guys chew off bark and lick the sap of trees. And if your fingers are out of delicious sap, time to dig deeper.

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#1408482 - 04/04/17 05:12 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: TwoDog]
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Originally Posted By: TwoDog<br> (aka - ComradeFluffyPants)
Aric hey...
IF they put their teeth on you in a way you don't like, give them a "TSSSK" and a gentle shake of the area they are biting on.

That's how their mom would say, "Hey stop that!"

I will definitely try that, thanks!

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Licky treats can be tricky, because in the wild, these guys chew off bark and lick the sap of trees. And if your fingers are out of delicious sap, time to dig deeper.

Being a semi-intelligent human (despite my maleness) this was something that did occur to me, LOL. I could tell he was just looking for the good stuff. Like "dude, [censored] did you do with my yogurt? Is it under HERE? CHOMP"

It was a bit relieving because I have been less than willing to let him bite me while lunging and crabbing. With this nibbling though I didn't reflexively jerk back. I did curl my finger slowly away to dissuade him but that just convinced him to move on to the next finger. Annoying but cute anyway.
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#1408483 - 04/04/17 05:38 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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#1408484 - 04/04/17 05:41 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Terry]
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Here is Squibble meeting his next door neighbor on the day he came home with us (Saturday).


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#1408490 - 04/04/17 07:54 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Wow! And how cute!

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Ask away, it just takes a lot of patience. To help with the crabbing, let him know you're in the room and before you open his cage. Have the last word over the crabbing. He will learn that if he shuts up so will you.

Thanks for sharing pic and keep us posted on your progress.
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#1408493 - 04/04/17 09:17 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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After he was done nibbling my fingers, this morning while he was still awake before I left for work I gave him a cricket. He really liked that!

I got home from work and found him lying underneath his pouch (pretty common). I have a pillow case scrunched up on the cage floor and the pouch on that. He likes to snuggle under the pouch.

Anyway, I lifted the pouch while talking to him and he just kind of sleepily looked up at me. No crabbing. I think that's a first!

I think tonight I'll make up a batch of the L... whatever it is diet that I got the recipe for.

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#1408494 - 04/04/17 09:24 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Oh, and I do have another question. What are the opinions on bedding materials like Comfort Care or aspen shavings? The breeder that we bought from suggested them, and I'll be honest he's quickly becoming a pungent little fellow. Possum pee is noticeably smelly. Not terrible, but I'd like to keep it manageable.
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#1408498 - 04/04/17 10:29 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Oh my gosh major break through. TOnight I woke him up. ZERO crabbing. I put my hand toward him. ZERO crabbing. I gave him a yogie and he sat there in his bed eating it while I rubbed his head. Totally calm, perfectly happy. I got my wife to do the same thing, and even one of my sons gave him a yogie with no fuss.

YAY!!!!!!

PS- he still nibbles my fingertips if I leave them there, looking for the yogurt. LOL.
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#1408502 - 04/05/17 05:20 AM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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I don't have a male but from what I hear, males are a bit stronger. You may consider having him neutered i think it helps too. He may be over marking because he's still in new environment.

Some people just wipe down the drop pan(daily or every few days) others use paper towels or fleece. I made liners out of flannel(I shake out every few days and change weekly), but thinking about trying some from a vendor listed in the glider ads below (I'm on my phone and can't look him up without losing all I've written).


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#1408508 - 04/05/17 09:40 AM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Dawn is right, intact males can be odoriferous little buggars. Neutering will help a lot.
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#1408511 - 04/05/17 09:45 AM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Feather]
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Originally Posted By: Feather
Dawn is right, intact males can be odoriferous little buggars. Neutering will help a lot.

That's not surprising. If it becomes too overwhelming I'll probably have it taken care of, but for now it's not so bad.
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#1408533 - 04/05/17 04:24 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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The picture is adorable... the two seem to be having the same thought: "What are you?"

Pleas consider getting a second glider to give him company during the night. Welcome to Glider Central!!
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#1408534 - 04/05/17 04:29 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Hutch]
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Originally Posted By: Hutch
The picture is adorable... the two seem to be having the same thought: "What are you?"

Pleas consider getting a second glider to give him company during the night. Welcome to Glider Central!!

Thank you, and yes we're already discussing it with the breeder. We should have another joey in May! I'm leaning toward another male as I don't want to begin breeding and discover I am not prepared for the inevitable neutering, larger colony size, selling joeys, etc.

Last night he was really fun and took yogies from everybody in the house. This morning even without a yogie he let me pet him while he hung on the side of the cage. No fussing or apprehension.
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#1408587 - 04/06/17 01:10 AM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Hey, welcome to the addiction!
sounds like you are off to a great start.

RE: your bedding question. Lots of people use lots of different things---pine is a no no. I think paper is OK, nothing fibrous.
I actually find the cleanest setup is no media at all. Bare cage/plastic pans, and maybe some cloth liners for them. Cage gets cleaned every day...only takes about 2 min. I blast them off in the shower with hot hot hot water and scrub with a toilet brush. Wipe dry--good to go. Sanitize with chems or vinegar when you do your full cleanings.

Hope that helps. :-)


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#1408666 - 04/07/17 05:57 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: TwoDog]
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Originally Posted By: TwoDog<br> (aka - ComradeFluffyPants)
Hey, welcome to the addiction!
sounds like you are off to a great start.

RE: your bedding question. Lots of people use lots of different things---pine is a no no. I think paper is OK, nothing fibrous.
I actually find the cleanest setup is no media at all. Bare cage/plastic pans, and maybe some cloth liners for them. Cage gets cleaned every day...only takes about 2 min. I blast them off in the shower with hot hot hot water and scrub with a toilet brush. Wipe dry--good to go. Sanitize with chems or vinegar when you do your full cleanings.

Hope that helps. :-)

Yes it helps thanks! I'm a bit odd, I am trying to do a more naturalistic set up with a couple live plants and some nice maple branches. I'm also using a Reptibreeze cage since I had one handy and the breeder I bought from happens to use them too. Presently no bedding and after a few days of this I don't think I'll really need it. The bottom wipes easily enough and he really doesn't poop that much, or if he does it's going in the plant soil and I can't see it.
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#1408677 - 04/07/17 10:29 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Looks like the Reptibreeze cages are similar to the Reptariums. There is a whole section in Housing & Accessories Archives on Reptariums.

These were very popular until the manufacturer changed the screen. I used them exclusively. Awesome enclosures.
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#1408679 - 04/07/17 10:35 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: KarenE]
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Looks like the Reptibreeze cages are similar to the Reptariums. There is a whole section in Housing & Accessories Archives on Reptariums.

These were very popular until the manufacturer changed the screen. I used them exclusively. Awesome enclosures.

Thanks for the info. It seems that the reptariums are/were made from plastic, whereas the Reptibreeze is nearly all aluminum (the screen and frames). I'm not a stubborn guy so if I see any potential problems I'll find another solution but for now it seems to be working well. Squibble seems to enjoy scampering along the screens.
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#1408680 - 04/07/17 10:40 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: Aric]
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Yes, the rept frames were/are made of pvc pipe which was not the problem. The original screens were great for the gliders IF you did not have any that were real chewers. The problem came when the manufacturer changed the screen so that it frayed and would get runs in it from the gliders' nails. The original screen did not do any of that even if the nails needed a trim.

I was fortunate to have ordered extra original screen because I liked to be able to swap a clean one while the soiled was being washed/dried, so I had plenty of the old version.
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#1408683 - 04/07/17 10:50 PM Re: Another New Glider Guy Here [Re: KarenE]
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Originally Posted By: KarenE
Yes, the rept frames were/are made of pvc pipe which was not the problem. The original screens were great for the gliders IF you did not have any that were real chewers. The problem came when the manufacturer changed the screen so that it frayed and would get runs in it from the gliders' nails. The original screen did not do any of that even if the nails needed a trim.

I was fortunate to have ordered extra original screen because I liked to be able to swap a clean one while the soiled was being washed/dried, so I had plenty of the old version.

Good to know! Aluminum screen is much harder to ear than that, at least with the gauge used on the Reptibreeze. I'll definitely be on the lookout for potential problems. THanks!
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