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#16569 - 01/15/04 11:04 AM Its back! (lumpy jaw)
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Now what do I do?! its a new lump now underneath his whole jaw. I called the vet as soon as I saw it, which was this morning, I left a message cuz my vet is the only one in today. Asking if he should go back on the meds I was giving him (still have a little left) or If I have to bring him back in! This is soooooooo frustrating! Does anybody, whos had this problem know why it keeps happening and how they solved the problem? Thank you.

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#16570 - 01/15/04 11:24 AM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Definitely call your vet, you'll probably have to take him in. You will need to keep him on antibiotics longer to make sure the infection is totally gone. Was he good about taking the meds?

Lumpy jaw is an infection in the salivary glands. I'm guessing that the medication wasn't strong enough or wasn't prescribed for a long enough time and not all the bacteria is gone. Once you stop the meds then they grow back. If it swells and bursts then the infection will be systemic and a lot harder to cure.

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#16571 - 01/15/04 11:29 AM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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swells and bursts? eeek. the vet squeezed some pus out when we first went in. Also he was on the meds for 7 days twice a day. He was pretty good about taking the meds. This is driving me nuts, but I guess it could be worse. Im going to wait for him to call me back. thanks in advance.

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#16572 - 01/15/04 11:36 AM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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I beleive I suggested a C&S. Has one already been done by chance? If not, you may want to reconsider having it done.
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#16573 - 01/15/04 01:08 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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im sorry...whats that?

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#16574 - 01/15/04 02:05 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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A culture & sensitivity.

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#16575 - 01/15/04 05:05 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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When a vet does a Culture and sensitivity, they will take a swab of the infected area, grow a culture of it (like a little bacteria colony in a dish) and they will test different antibiotics to see which is the most effective for that particular type of bacteria. It is best to get these done early, as they take about a week to get results, and the vet can go ahead and prescribe an antibiotic, and if after a week it isn't working (like in your case), the C&S will tell which will work better. This would have been the best course of action in the first place, but you still may want to have it done, even though it will take several days, because the antibiotic you're using may not be the one that works most effectively on that type of bacteria.

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#16576 - 01/15/04 06:44 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Thank you for explaining what that meant. He was going to do that the first time, but for some reason he didnt? I was just paying attention to how to make Kuzco better. Im still waiting for him to call, so in a minute im going to call back and make sure he got the message. I think maybe Kuzco wasnt on the meds long enough and I have almost a whole container left. So for now, this morning I gave him more, and I will again tonight when they wake up and Ill see what the doc says. thanks.

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#16577 - 01/15/04 09:19 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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did you see what the doc did to get it to drain? where he squeezed & how hard, etc? have you tried to get it to drain at all? is the poor guy in pain?!? id try to get that stuff outta his glands if i could, at least till you can get him to the vet!

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#16578 - 01/15/04 09:55 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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If you're going to continue giving him the meds, be consistent. Keep giving it to him twice a day. Otherwise the bacteria will build up a resistance to the antibiotic and you'll need stronger meds from your vet in the future. Hopefully you can get ahold of your vet ASAP so he can decide what's the best course of action.

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#16579 - 01/15/04 10:42 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Jason, I will NOT squeeze that outta him, my vet did not tell me to do that, lol. But he did call back (at 9:45) he said to continue the meds for 10 more days (last time we did it for 7) then he said, to see how that goes and if that doesnt work, to bring him back in and we'll have to do an x-ray he thinks it could be from one of his front teeth. One looks a little twisted and discolored, but when he initially took him back the first time he wanted to make sure it wasnt dead or loose. The tooth was fine, but he thinks the tooth could be the cause of it. Well see after giving the meds this time around.

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#16580 - 01/15/04 11:29 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Jen...ten more days may do it, but if I were you, I would take him in and get that C&S started in the meantime. That way, if after the ten days it doesn't work, you'll have a better shot of knowing what will. Even if it is a problem with the tooth, if it's infected he'll need meds, and the C&S will tell you which ones to use.

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#16581 - 01/16/04 08:31 AM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Jen, I have to agree with having the C & S done anyway. Does your vet explain why he doesn't want to do this? Infections can spread throughout the body, once they get nasty enough...I would be more preventative this time. Good luck, we are with you through this!

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#16582 - 01/16/04 08:14 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Im not sure what the vets reasonings on not doing it is. He said he COULD do that, but first he'd just like to try the antibiotic to see if it cleared it up. Which it did, within a day or so, and I kept giving the meds for the time I was supposed to. I guess he just figured he didnt allow enough time for the medication to heal the wound. I will call the vet tomorrow morning to ask about the C&S, if I call it a C&S will he know what I mean, or is that just how you guys abbreviate it here?

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#16583 - 01/16/04 09:26 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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He should know what you mean. If not, say culture and sensitivity. And maybe, rather than ask about it...tell him you WANT to do one. Now.

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#16584 - 01/16/04 11:46 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Thank you. I wrote the vets office an email to book me an appointment after 5 tomorrow since the office is closed now and I couldnt get through to leave a message. this is driving me crazy and making me cry...Its just SO annoying that I have to go back A THIRD TIME to pay an additional fee just for a 'checkup' which is $45 each time! For a mistake he made and could not cure...I am completely fine paying for everything that has to be done to find out what the problem is, its just so upsetting that I have to pay a fee each time I have to bring Kuzco back to figure out what went wrong. Anyway, I left my number in the email so Im hoping they call me sometime tomorrow, if not I will make sure to call them and make sure they got it. Kuzcos lump is not decreasing in size and I pushed on it tonight while giving him meds, and it seems really hard. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" /> I just dont know what to do...he can eat and drink just fine, and he doesnt look sick at all...but this is just making me so upset that I cant fix him... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> I have to get to bed before I rip my hair out.

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#16585 - 01/17/04 12:10 AM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Jen...I am so sorry...I know how you feel though...It seems like they would run all the tests at once and you would get answers instead of going back over and over but they never do! You just have to figure out for yourself what needs to be done, and tell the vet what you want when you get there. Try to think of it as a learning experience, and if (heaven forbid) you ever have to go through something like this again, you will know what to do the first time.

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#16586 - 01/17/04 07:22 AM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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This is so sad. I am hoping good things come out of this soon. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

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#16587 - 01/17/04 10:46 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers. The vet left a message for me today while I was working. He said he wants me to bring Kuzco in on tues (which works great since I have tues off) he wants to take x-rays and see if its his teeth thats bothering him and whats going on in there. In the meantime Im going to keep up his meds. and I will make sure he does a c&s this time...

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#16588 - 01/18/04 06:00 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Weird that it is a hard lump... I hope they can figure out what's wrong with the x-ray. If it cleared up in a day last time and it's not going away this time, it's definitely good to have it looked at and have more tests run. I hope all goes well on Tuesday!

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#16589 - 01/18/04 10:26 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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C&S needs to be established in the very beginning. Befor meds are started. Tests may be altered while on antibiotics and there should be a waiting period of several days of no meds at all. Because you have opted to continue the meds...the C&S will have to wait till this round is completed.....and if glider is not well by that time....then a C&S to follow.

The vet is correct....often these cysts can take up to thirty days on one round of meds being befor the glider is rid of the infection. However...since the lump is hard...vet may opt to lance it so it will be able to drain.

Keep your appointment for Tuesday. If by chance the glider improves then you can cancel it.


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#16590 - 01/19/04 04:41 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Thank ya ladies I feel a ton better hearing from you guys. I think the lump went down the first time so well because the Dr. squeezed it and cleaned out the pus, this time the Dr didnt get a chance to see the new lump that formed and I didnt want to squeeze it myself, its not ROCK hard, just hard to the touch, but the first one was also. Thank you for clearing up the C&S issue and that we'd have to wait till after the meds are done. I dont want to jinx myself again, but I noticed this morning his lump is decreasing in size. I want to jump for joy but...I dont want to get my hopes up too high. (im also having problems with my rabbit and sneezing...this is the second dose of meds shes on also <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />) I left another message for the Dr for Kuzco, letting him know that Kuzcos lump is decreasing, but..he has to call me back still. I kinda dont want to drive Kuzco and Poe(to keep himcompany) all the way out there for a 3rd time unless I really have to...so we'll see what the doc says. thanks for all your help and suggestions, i really do appreciate it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> I just hope we can make it through this, this time....Hopefully the longer hes on the meds this time it should work...maybe I'll ask the doc if we should do it an extra 7 days (after the 10) just to be safe...or would that not work?

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#16591 - 01/19/04 05:25 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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ya gotta be carefull w/ antibiotics cuz prolonged exposure can kill off the "friendly" bacteria in their system too! at least i know thats the case w/ humans & goes to figure that it would apply to fuzzies too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> i might just be makin stuff up though; who knows..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

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#16592 - 01/19/04 08:50 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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mmm... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> dont scare me... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" />

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#16593 - 01/19/04 11:03 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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squeeze that sucker!!!!
j/k relax, i knew you wouldn't do it but it prolly would've relieved any pain that might heve been there due to pressure caused by the pus. I've asperated my share of abcesses.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shakehead.gif" alt="" />

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#16594 - 01/23/04 10:31 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Alright, so it will be 10 whole days tomorrow night of Kuzco being on the meds. Which is what the doc ordered. But he also ordered 7 days the first time (and that was too little) so i was wondering, just to MAKE SURE, should I keep Kuzco on the meds for a couple more days after the 10 whole days, or should I just stop at exactly 10? His lump is completely gone now and all seems to be fine...everyday I hear 'what happened to your hands?!' cuz theyre all scratched from holding him to give him the meds...which I dont mind, I have scars upon scars from them, but anyway, I was just wondering on peoples takes on if I should continue for maybe a couple more days after the final 10, Or should I just stop?

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#16595 - 01/23/04 11:21 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Call your vet and ask if you can go the few extra days of meds. I do know....sometimes it can take up to 30 days for treatment to be effective. Anyway...go with what your vet tells you after you call his clinic.

As to your hands...trim his nails with baby nippers. This way he can not claw you up. Wrap him in a towel and pull on foot out at a time and tip the nail where it is white but not too close to where it starts to get pink. Make sure you have some Quick Stop befor you start trimming. It is used to stop nicks on dog or cats nails and found in any pet store...just in case you tip one a little too short.


Edited by Judie (01/23/04 11:24 PM)
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#16596 - 01/24/04 05:09 PM Re: Its back! (lumpy jaw) [Re: ]
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Alright, I called the vet, he said to continue the meds for 5 more days just to make SURE. He said he should be fine since the swelling has been down for about 5 days now, but just to make sure 5 more days. He said if I notice anything after that to give him a call right away and I have to bring Kuzco in right away. He wants me to call in and let him know how hes doing after the 5 days. Thanks for the help.

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