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#171791 - 11/14/06 10:15 PM Cat food
Anonymous
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the breeder that I got Jr. from feed there breeders cat food I have never heard of a diet like this is it okay to feed.

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#171795 - 11/14/06 10:19 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
pixiedust Offline
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Registered: 11/03/06
Posts: 222
Loc: Broken Arrow, OK
No! Someone more experienced will be along with a link to the diet page if you haven't already found it in looking here. Cat food is not good for gliders!

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#171800 - 11/14/06 10:29 PM Re: Cat food [Re: pixiedust]
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http://www.glidercentral.net/links/pages/Glider_Care___Information/Diet___Nutrition/index.html

this link has all the proven diets that are good for them. Just pick one that u think will work for u. I use BML and so do most people on here.

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#171806 - 11/14/06 10:45 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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Cat food is not good for gliders and can cause lumpy jaw... When i first got into gliders the breeder that i got mine from advised me to feed cat food as well. I guess these people are just too lazy to give their gliders the diet and nutrition that is necessary for them to live long healthy lifes. Look at the diet's page and start them on a proven diet that works best for you. I personally use the BML diet and my gliders love it and they are all in great health.


Edited by aasweeney22 (11/14/06 10:46 PM)

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#171822 - 11/14/06 11:26 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
Cat Food or any other dry feed does not cause Lumpy Jaw. Lumpy Jaw is just a term used for a swollen jaw from a nasty bacterial infection of the soft tissue of the face or mouth.

Draw back of a diet of only Dry Food is the possibility of a possible impaction in the gut which is a result from not enough fruit and veggies incorporated into the diet plan.

Example of a Cat Food diet is the Carolyn McPearson diet. It calls for a High Grade of Cat Food, Fruit and Veggies fed which are higher in Calcium than Phos. ratio and also a calcium supplement.


Edited by Judie (11/14/06 11:29 PM)
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#171826 - 11/14/06 11:37 PM Re: Cat food [Re: Judie]
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no no to cat food!

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#171847 - 11/15/06 12:26 AM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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Premium cat food as a part of a nutritionally balanced glider diet that includes fresh fruits and vegetables is not bad.

Premium cat food such as Natural Balance ultra premium has an excellent ca:p ratio, complete amino acid profile w/a good amt of lysine,balanced omega 3s and 6s and high digestibility. If fed with fresh veggies and fruit, it is a fine component of a glider diet.

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#171929 - 11/15/06 08:48 AM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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Cat food can cause a scratch in the mouth which can lead to an infection causing lumpy jaw. It's only fair that anyone should be aware of that possibility. Any way since they primarily injest the juice of thier food why give them dry stuff? You should choose a proven diet as they are supposed to be nutritionally balanced for suggies and then stick to it.

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#171960 - 11/15/06 09:43 AM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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Small amounts of dry cat kibble, fed as one part of a complete and balanced diet, are usually moistened when fed.


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#171967 - 11/15/06 09:52 AM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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The chicago zoo diet feeds Zupreem Feline Exotic diet as a part of the diet for sugar gliders (wet food). They have paid nutritionist to research this. They also feed fruits veggies, and insects to create a complete diet. Cat food had added minerals, calcium and is a fantastic source of protien. Not to mention most sugar gliders really like it.

Feeding cat food is a personal choice, you just have to make sure it is parot of a balanced diet, and not a diet in and of itself. Lots of people on this board have stong feelings against it, others are okay with it. It boils down to what works for you.

Lumpy jaw is a bacterial infection. Many things can cause this, not the least of which is an all SOFT food diet. Insects and other abrasive foods need to be eaten by gliders to help keep their teeth clean. Gliders naturally chew wood, and eat other crunchy things like beetles, so hard cat food should not be too much of an issue for them. If one was really worried they could soften it with a bit of water till it was soft and spongy.

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#172178 - 11/15/06 04:11 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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Now im really interested in the cat food diet. i had every intention of using the bml even while i made that first post but now I think im really interested in the diet. I want someone to bring fact evidence that the complete cat food diet is wrong. Which includes fruits and veggies. Right now all there is he say she say about it being a bad diet.

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#172182 - 11/15/06 04:29 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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You have had a variety of opinions. Regardless, you will just have to take the responsibility for choosing your glider's diet. Make the best decision you can, watch your glider's weight, activity level, health, and coat. Then you will know if what you are feeding is good for him/her or not. If not, make a change. The stickys here give you lots of choices.

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#172192 - 11/15/06 04:50 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 11157
Loc: Tampa, FL
Originally Posted By: jungleflockmom
You have had a variety of opinions. Regardless, you will just have to take the responsibility for choosing your glider's diet. Make the best decision you can, watch your glider's weight, activity level, health, and coat. Then you will know if what you are feeding is good for him/her or not. If not, make a change. The stickys here give you lots of choices.


Using a cat food diet, is not necessarily a bad thing and in some places, especially over seas the ingredients for many of the other diets are not available…personally I feed BML, the ingredients are easily obtained, and personally I feel it is the best option for me and my gliders… you need to make the decision for you and your gliders as noted above… good luck, and keep researching…
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#172223 - 11/15/06 05:47 PM Re: Cat food [Re: Xglider]
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Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 4212
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I want to add a quick thanks to those posters and moderators who stress, over and over, that diet is a personal choice - on too many boards and posts people are "flamed" for their choices. It really makes Glider Central a helpful and friendly environment!

That being said, stevenglider expressed an interest in BML, which is what I personally use. I feel that it is easy, healthy, well researched and best for my guys 'cause they love it. Not every glider likes the same thing. The issue I see with cat food diets is it calls for premimium cat food - not the stuff you get at the grocery store. Having worked for a vet, it is also $$pricey$$. I don't even feed it to my cats due to costs (and the fact he doesn't like it much!) Do the research and pick what is best for your guys!
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#172225 - 11/15/06 05:50 PM Re: Cat food [Re: Xglider]
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I just brought the rep-cal's from the petstore so I guess I am going to just feed it the bml. This is my first glider and I really don't need to be experimenting with yoda(used to be Jr.) diet. The rest of the stuff for the diet can be easily obtained I just couldn't find the rep-cal so I was going to use another diet until I could order or locate some.

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#172228 - 11/15/06 05:54 PM Re: Cat food [Re: ]
Mel2mdl Offline
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Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 4212
Loc: Garland, TX
Steven - I don't think you will regret it. Word of advice - use the "back to Basic" formula and mix it as written. My two boys were moved to this from another diet and they just inhale the stuff - I rarely see any left! It so nice to see people researching and asking questions, not just doing what the breeder/seller told them to (I think my guys would be dead if I did that since I was orginally told to feed apples and yogurt only!) Good luck and congratulations on your acquisition of Yoda - great name, btw!
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#172352 - 11/15/06 10:38 PM Re: Cat food [Re: Mel2mdl]
Anonymous
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BML is a good diet for many people. Don't think that if you use premium cat food as a diet ingredient that you will have an easier diet to prepare or a less expensive diet. There's no way to get around preparation and careful feeding of gliders and still have a healthy diet.

If you use cat food, you should only feed 2-3 pieces of kibble per glider per night along w/fresh veggies, fresh fruit, and other protein sources such as egg. You also need to carefully compute and balance your calcium:phosphorus ratio and make sure your protein is not too much.

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