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#19826 - 04/11/04 08:19 AM gliders and ecoli?
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Can gliders have ecoli? Does anyone have any info regarding this? Information woukd be greatly appreciated..
thanks
Kristi

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#19827 - 04/11/04 10:48 AM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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bump <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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#19828 - 04/11/04 11:13 AM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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I do not personally recall ever seeing a post on this subject, however I am sure someone with more knowledge on this topic will be along soon. Until than I will attempt to do some research on it and let you know what I find or dont find!
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#19829 - 04/11/04 11:13 AM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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Wow, not sure, have you tried calling an exotic vet. If you don't have one in your area I can call mine. Good question though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" />

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#19830 - 04/11/04 01:27 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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Never heard it mentioned, but if someones find out it would be appreciated. This is what this board is all about!

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#19831 - 04/11/04 01:30 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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I believe E.coli is present in the digestive system of all humans and animals, and it is when it is ingested that it becomes a problem, resulting in diarrhea, stomach cramps, and sometimes a fever.

Here is a very informative article on it.

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As long as you wash your hands well after handling your gliders I don't think you will have a problem with E. coli

Hopefully one of our medical professionals will stop by and give us more information.

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#19832 - 04/11/04 01:33 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Here is some info on ecoli
I hope someone will have more informaion.
Angie

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#19833 - 04/11/04 03:40 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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thanks for posting! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Cause the reason I asked is cause my gliders are seeming to be hissing while going poop (constipation ish.. but not really because I have tried everything) and they have been having trouble urinating. Which unfortunately, is the same thing I have been experiencing. I went to the doctor and they said I had ecoli. It wasn't fun.. so I am thinking that is what they have. I actually hope that is what they have.. because I am going to try to take them to the vet tomorrow, and I hope that is what it is. I have tried to find why they are always painfully hissing.. and this may be it.
Kristi

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#19834 - 04/11/04 09:27 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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Wow! Good luck with that for you too.
Try to get the gliders to drink more water, or I heard someone here say gatoraid willentice them to drink more.
Hence flushing out their system. It is dangerous if it gets too bad in humans.

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#19835 - 04/11/04 09:39 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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A bacterial infection can definitely be the reason behind the hissing. It may be a UTI or E. coli or some other bacterial infection or maybe something else altogether. It's certainly something to get remedied ASAP before anything really serious like SM occurs... especially around the cloaca area.

I hope you and your babies are getting back to feeling better soon! Please let us know what the vet says.

Also... if your gliders DO have some sort of bacterial infection that is causing this, it may not show up the first time around. It took my vet three or four times to diagnose one of my gliders with these same symptoms. She did have self-mutilation problems because of the pain associated with the infection. Luckily some antibiotics and a lot of love <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> cleared her up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Let us know what the vet says. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#19836 - 04/18/04 10:08 PM Re: gliders and ecoli? [Re: ]
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We all have E. coli in our gastrointestinal tracts, millions and billions of 'em. It is the predominant organism living there. They even do good things for us there for the most part. In the wrong place, they can also cause pneumonia in the lung, meningitis in the spinal canal, sinusitis, wound infections, you name it. The urinary tract, however, should be sterile, or bacteria free. When some of those little critters get up the urinary tract, they can cause a urinary tract infection (UTI) with its resultant pain and burning.

UTI's are rare in men because their anatomy with distant openings of the organ tracts protects them better from that happening than women. A glider's cloaca is an even more precarious design because of the openings of the organ tracts sharing a common outlet passage. They can get UTI's, and not just E. coli.

Most E. coli are OK germs, and are even helpful for their host animal. There are, however, meaner strains of E. coli that do nasty things. Some E. coli are enteropathogenic, meaning they cause distress in the gut. Some are entero-invasive, meaning they invade the gut wall and we often see bloody diarrhea with these. Some make toxins. The evil strains we read about causing kidney failure in kids eating hamburgers are a rare and special mess. The vast majority though are good guys and help us.

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