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#21811 - 06/07/04 11:23 AM loss of appetite and playfullness
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I've noticed in the past week both my gliders have not been drinking any water, and they're just not playing much at night. I dont know if they are getting depressed or borde with the cage. They are 8mos old and they live together. I've had them since Jan. and things have been going pretty well. We have been bonding but now they dont want to come out as much and fuss alot. I just dont know if they're having any fun - what can I do?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

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#21812 - 06/07/04 11:52 AM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Do you have a wheel?? or lots of toys in the cage?? It could be, that they don't have enough to play with. Also, are they male and female gliders?? It could be coming around to mating time. 8 mos is not too early, so don't be surprised if the female is pregnant one day!! Either way, I would suggest taking them to the vet asap to make sure that they don't have a parasite or are sick.

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#21813 - 06/07/04 12:17 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Jellybean is right on! Usually when there is a change in appetite and behavior, there's good cause for a vet check. Gliders hide their illness really well and we have to be alert for the slightest change in behavior etc! A change in appetite and activity are definite signs that need checked out further! Please let us know what you find out!
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#21814 - 06/07/04 12:24 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Sheila Offline
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If this pair is a male female couple it could be that they either have a baby in pouch or are getting ready to breed. Sometimes a female will have a loss of appetite when beginning her estrous cycle. Watch the poop to see if it is the same. I agree a vet check might be in order, but if they are a different sexed pair, it could be the reason for the change. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#21815 - 06/07/04 12:40 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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well my male Watague has been nuitered, but Sachi has been acting dominate over him lately- like sitting on top of him and nipping at his sides. not hurting him tho.. When I get up to look at them - they look at me like WHAT??? and they dont want to come out or come to me now.
They are eating - just not as much. Its the not drinkin water that has me worried, Is that normal not to drink water if they have nectur and fruit to get fluids??

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#21816 - 06/07/04 12:47 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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If you're giving them nectar and juicy fruit, they may not be drinking water... or may be drinking very little. Some nights my guys drink a noticeable amount, some nights it doesn't appear that they drank any.

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#21817 - 06/07/04 01:32 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Critter Creations Offline
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I personally would get them to a vet for a check up as soon as I could. Anytime a glider changes behavior a vet check is in order. They don't show signs that they are ill until they are extremely ill so we have to pick up on the little signs. Please keep us updated on how they are doing and what the vet says.
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#21818 - 06/08/04 08:42 AM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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if they havent been drinking water in a while, they could be dehydrated and that could be the reason why they are not wanting to come out or play as much. I would definately get them to a vet as soon as you can. hope this helps

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#21819 - 06/08/04 11:03 AM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Lucy Offline
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Danielle's suggestion is one I would heed! If there are changes in behavior over several days, that's something to be checked out. Better a bill for a vet visit, resulting in peace of mind of a healthy glider, than not taking action and waiting until the glider is gravely ill.
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#21820 - 06/08/04 11:46 AM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Good Morning, I just wanted to update, I know its important to get them a vet check up, and I will as soon as I can, just not a good week for me fincially speaking. I have been watching them very closely and last night I woke them up about 8pm (they fussed as usual) but once I had them out and played with them for awhile they seemed to be okay with it. When I put them back in the cage and fed them they did stay up and played around more than the past few nights.
I really think it may be thier bored with the cage it 24x18x24 and not much from for toys, they have a wheel and a rope.. I have been looking into trying to get them a bigger cage with more toys to play with...
Could it be normal that suggies just are real sensitive to these types of things?? I love them and I want to be happy and have fun, I just havent had them very long and they are my first non-cat animal.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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#21821 - 06/08/04 01:47 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Please understand that you need to get them checked out asap. As I already posted, the smallest change in behavior or eating/drinking could be the signs of a serious illness. Gliders hide their illness in the wild, because signs of illness/weakness mean death in the wild. Since they are not domesticated, they still live/work very much on instinct and instinct tells them to hide wounds/illness for survival. Something that to another animal might not be a big deal is a big deal with these guys. Especially if they are new to your home. (within say a month or so) Stress can bring on a bacterial bloom, (overgrowth of bacteria) which needs antibiotics to treat it. As well as causing other problems. With gliders, when an illness is left untreated to the point of definite signs of illness, it's often times too late, as the glider is then deathly ill. We can't stress enough the importance of taking them to the vet to be checked out. That's why we stress having an emergency vet fund of your own, and being prepared to take them to the vet. Believe me I do understand lack of funds, very well. Hopefully your little ones are ok and you can get them to the vet asap!

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#21822 - 06/08/04 02:04 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Critter Creations Offline
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Let me tell you about my first glider death. My first glider (Bonnie) had a joey and the joey died. She started acting depressed. She wasn't playing and she wasn't eating as much as normal. Well I figured she was depressed from the baby dying and then about three days later she didn't come down to eat at all so I went in to get her and she was lethargic so I ran her to the vet, but it was too late. She had pneumonia and she died on the way home from the vets. I learned my lesson to never assume that their behavior change was from this or from that ever again. Now if there is a behavior change I take them to the vet and I would say that 80% of the time I am right and something is medically wrong. Please take your gliders to the vet. Like Lucy said peace of mind is better than not knowing or having your gliders die. I know how hard it can be financially, but some vets will allow you to pay in installments if you don't have the cash. Just call and talk to them and they will normally work something out with you.
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#21823 - 06/08/04 09:29 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
the gliders angel Offline
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if they were my gliders id run to a good exotic vet. a fecal float and urinalysis cant hurt plus a good ck up. these guys go down very fast if u dont jump on it. better safe than sorry. in the past if i sae the slightest change or strange behavior in my gliders i get immediate vet check up. and it releives my mind when i hear their ok. but its cheaper in the long run and sure saves alot of heart ache if u lose your glider. so my advise is get them checked and if its nothing thats great better than a dead glider.

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#21824 - 06/08/04 10:01 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"]i think they should see a vet asap. if they are not drinking, they could quickly dehydrate. until you can get to a vet, try adding apple juice to the water. that may encourage them to drink it. [/]

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#21825 - 06/08/04 11:57 PM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Lucy Offline
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Registered: 02/14/01
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Loc: Lexington, KY
luckysag, I hope it doesn't seem like people are ganging up on you here! That's sure not the intent. Many of us have had experiences like Danielle's, where we either didn't notice an illness quickly enough, or thought "if he's not better by the weekend, then I'll go to the vet." We may be over-reacting, but the signs you're suggesting are signs we often see when gliders are ill -- there aren't many hints they give that something's wrong, and sometimes a slight change in behavior is all you have.

I recently glidersat for a friend, and while in my care, her glider began to look dehydrated to me. He was eating okay, and I didn't know enough about his behavior to know if there were changes -- but I didn't like the way he looked. I had tests run on his stools (called fecals), and they came back normal. So I worried for "no reason" -- and I don't regret it in the slightest. Knowing the little guy was healthy was worth every penny.

So please don't feel ganged up on. It's just that many people responding to your post have been around the "glider community" long enough to have seen what happens when sick gliders don't go to the vet. And we want your glider to be alright, and know that sooner is better than later if he's sick.

I hope we're concerned for no reason. I've learned that part of owning gliders is always being just a little bit worried and a little bit obsessive about their health.
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#21826 - 06/10/04 09:50 AM Re: loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Anonymous
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well thank you all for your post.. I know there is reasons for concern and I have learned to trust my instincts- if I feel like something is wrong there is usually a reason for it.. I did some research yesterday and found a vet close to me that has expierence and reasonably priced for exam and fecal test.. I will take them in saturday. In the mean time I have been watching them, and there are no signs of them being ill. They still are not drinking water though and Ive switched to sparkletts from tap and still not. But they are eating all there fruit.... But I will be releaved to know something more definite after thier check up.

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#21827 - 06/14/04 09:58 AM Re:Final Update- loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Hello and Good-day everyone!! I had a great weekeknd.. I took my critters in for an exam and fecal test... They both got a clean bill of health <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> I could not be happier!!! After that, My sister and I worked very hard this weekend on building them a new cage.. see attachment.. I hope this will increase their playfullness and make them very happy critters.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />


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#21828 - 06/14/04 10:14 AM Re:Final Update- loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
cyndiekb Offline
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Wow. Can we come play to that is a nice size cage! Fill it with toys and give them lots a love they will be in glider heaven!
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#21829 - 06/14/04 12:18 PM Re:Final Update- loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
Lucy Offline
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Registered: 02/14/01
Posts: 7354
Loc: Lexington, KY
I'm thrilled to be wrong! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Very, very glad to know things are okay, and that your gliders were just having a lazy few days not eating a lot. All too often that's not the case. I'm SO glad to hear things are okay! And doesn't it feel good to have spent that money for the peace of mind?
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#21830 - 06/14/04 01:44 PM Re:Final Update- loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16733
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Very Nice and looks like they will have tons of fun, however....I see that you have a wooden frame and you stated you put it together in a day....

Did you not coat the wood?? The wooden frame of ones cage should be sanded down VERY good and than a coat of shellac should be applied, allowed to dry for 24 hours and than 1500 grit sandpaper should be used to LIGHTLY rub it down with and than another coat of shellac should be applied. This should be done several times. 3 being the minimum amount and 5 being the suggested amount. Which means it should take at least 3 days of preparation for the frame alone. This will not only make your frame safe for your babies but also will make it easy to clean and keep it from the smell absorbing into the wood and making one smelly situation that you cant seem to ever get rid of. If this was not done, I would suggest that you do so ASAP otherwise, you will find yourself having a smelly cage and having to redo it and having a very bad experience with wood when there is no need to ever have a bad experience at all. (You can also use Tung Oil, it is also safe to use however, it is much more expensive then shellac)
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#21831 - 06/14/04 02:11 PM Re:Final Update- loss of appetite and playfullness [Re: ]
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Yes, it was so worth spending the money to have them looked at, I thank GC very much for being here, I found a recommended vet in my area that was very good and affordable on the website, Dr.K at VCA Pet Doctor in Richardson TX. exams were only $35. ea and she did both fecals for the price of one for $21.... not bad!!

On the cage I did Shellac the wood first, I started working on it Sat morning.. I did rush the coating alittle, But here in Texas it was very sunny and hot this weekend and it dried pretty fast. On the inside boards I shellaced 4 times, the outside boards just a couple times.. We worked on this from early morning Sat until late night Sunday.. Im so sore and tired... I havent let the critters in it yet.. Im waiting for it to settle and dry (wood glue in hindges and legs) - then I need to wash it out real good before I give it to them... Tonite!! But I hope they love it!!

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