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#230962 - 03/08/07 07:37 PM Poms or No Poms???
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i was just reading someones posting about neutering and i had a question....
when it comes to neutering males do they always remove the poms or sometimes??
what makes the dr decide to remove them completly??
if the doctor gives me the choice to have them removed or not which would be the better choice? because if they remove them i know there would be some kind of glue or stitches and id be afraid he'd overgroom the incision site?!?
does removing them make a difference in scent? i know neutering will decrease the smell.


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#230967 - 03/08/07 07:39 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
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Most vets leave the poms, mine did. It seems to reduce SMing. There is a sticky on neutering under "Health and Hygiene" that explains what to expect and the best way to do it. It sure helped me!
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#230968 - 03/08/07 07:40 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Mel2mdl]
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#230970 - 03/08/07 07:42 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
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when Trynyti came to me, he was already neutered. he didn't have his poms. && i think nowadays they take 'em off. i don't really know why. if you take your baby to be neutered, ask the vet, && more than likely the vet will put him in an e-collar i'm sure, so he can't get to the stitches if there are any. no removing the poms doesn't make a difference in scent. neutering greatly reduces smell.
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#231025 - 03/08/07 08:30 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Holly1221]
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I just had one neutered this morning...pom left on. He was number 22 I've had neutered, all had their poms left on.
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#231031 - 03/08/07 08:37 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Dancing]
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thanx for that link about wellness exams and neutering everyone seems to be saying try to have the poms left on which i think makes more sence i was just wondering why some vets choose to remove them all together.. and besides if i had his removed he'd probably be upset, he seems to enjoy licking them lol...
thanx everyone for the responses

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#231043 - 03/08/07 08:48 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: BabyDiesel

he seems to enjoy licking them lol...


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#231089 - 03/08/07 09:29 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Mel2mdl]
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what can i say.. boys... i guess nomatter what species they are, they're all drawn to those things... hehehe..

but if anyone knows why they remove'em id just like to know?!?

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#231093 - 03/08/07 09:32 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
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Generally speaking, it's basically easier surgery for the vet to remove the entire scrotal sac. However, for the well-being of the glider (to avoid the higher risk factor of Self Mutilation) it's better to leave the sac intact and just remove the testicles from inside it.
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#231700 - 03/09/07 08:15 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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can i ask why there is a higher risk of SM ?
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#231716 - 03/09/07 08:46 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Holly1221]
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When they remove the scrotal sac, they have to use sutures and/or glue to close the incision... The glider goes after them because they are foreign objects on their body shakehead
When they leave the scrotal sac intact, they usually use such a tiny incision that they don't have to use either glue nor sutures to close it and the glider is more apt to leave it alone thumb
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#231724 - 03/09/07 08:53 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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oh ok. so it's more practical to leave the poms on. but will most vets leave/ or take. i'll have to talk to my vet.
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#231731 - 03/09/07 09:01 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Holly1221]
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Most vets, if not experienced with gliders, will take the poms unless you specifically ask them not to and explain the reason why... Even then, sometimes they insist on taking the poms. That's what happened with my Gizmo. I took him in, the vet agreed NOT to take the poms off, and then during surgery changed her mind tant Gizmo DID end up SMing and I had to have him in an e-collar for a few days post-op shakehead Needless to say, my vet got an earful! (And she also told me that she has now learned her lesson...)
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#231739 - 03/09/07 09:13 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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even after you told her not to take'em off she did.. wow... and ur glider ended up SMing... i wouldnt have paid or i would have demanded my money back and went to a new vet....

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#231740 - 03/09/07 09:16 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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I should explain that her reasoning for changing her mind during surgery was because his scrotal sac was hanging very low and far away from his body. Apparently she didn't know that they will do that if they are very warm. She was afraid that he would catch it on things in the cage and it would get ripped off if she left it on... All things considered, although I wasn't happy, I understood her logic and couldn't get too horribly upset with her. I did educate her about the warmth factor though...
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#231954 - 03/10/07 09:25 AM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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oh okay i thought you meant she just decided she wanted to remove it and maybe she planned on taking it off all along even tho she told you she wouldnt... poor gizmo... about how long did it take for everything to heal??

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#231966 - 03/10/07 10:06 AM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
morksmom Offline
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When I asked my vet if he removed the poms or not he asked why would he So when neuturing Mork he left them.

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#232009 - 03/10/07 11:49 AM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: morksmom]
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yeah with everything ive heard id like to try to get his kept on

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#232188 - 03/10/07 07:34 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: ]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Suz, CAN they get that sac caught on something though?
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#232197 - 03/10/07 07:52 PM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: SugarBlossoms]
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Once the insides are gone, they really don't drop down that far. My two boys have never got it caught on anything - wow, what a painful thought!
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#232401 - 03/11/07 05:32 AM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: Mel2mdl]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Thank you! I was afraid of the sac catching on something and tearing. OUCH!
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#232426 - 03/11/07 09:41 AM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: SugarBlossoms]
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I've never heard nor read of that happening, so I really don't think it's an issue. I believe that it was an unfounded concern on the vet's part...
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#238811 - 03/20/07 09:12 AM Re: Poms or No Poms??? [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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I am getting ready to have my boy neutered, & was wondering the same thing about the pom. I also would like to know if anyone has used any vets in or around Houston, Tx. for this?


Edited by MasterGlider (03/20/07 09:13 AM)

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