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#24200 - 07/30/04 09:53 PM our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!!
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i have no idea what to do now. we took him to our vet, but they really don't have a clue about gliders, and i can't find a better vet..
gizmo, is in a cage with a female, but she want give it up, i don't know if this is the problem or not...

any help will be greatly appreciated... gizmo will also appreciate it, his life depends on it. im afraid he's gunna die.. he has chewed so much there is blood everywhere..

http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10136/DSC02784-1.JPG

http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10136/DSC02786-1.JPG


Edited by FURBYnGIZMO (07/05/07 09:41 PM)
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#24201 - 07/30/04 10:04 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
gliderdad79 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
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You need to get an ecoller on him asap. Do you have a vet, any vet right now will do
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#24202 - 07/30/04 10:04 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
Carrie T Offline
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Registered: 06/10/01
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Here is a website, I hope it helps. I have also pulled the notify mod button. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> web page

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#24203 - 07/30/04 10:07 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
gliderdad79 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
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Loc: Long Island, NY
Here is the link to the sm site Sm site. On this is a questionair and contact info. But for right now get your glider to a vet asap. Any vet will do. dont call find a 24 hr vet and just go


Edited by gliderdad79 (07/30/04 10:15 PM)
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#24204 - 07/30/04 10:11 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
Carrie T Offline
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Where are you located so that we can help you find a vet ?

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#24205 - 07/30/04 10:27 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
BMXgirl Offline
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 7078
Loc: USA
Oh my gosh! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Poor little guy!

I think the others gave you great advice.
Keeping you in my thoughts and saying a prayer for the little guy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />
Please keep us posted when you can.

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#24206 - 07/30/04 10:50 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
KarenE Online   /gc/lgc
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Registered: 03/25/00
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Loc: LittleRock, AR USA
Could you PM your phone number to me? We will try to get someone to help walk through this with you.
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#24207 - 07/31/04 12:17 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
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This poor little sweetie will be in my thoughts, as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> Please keep us posted.
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#24208 - 07/31/04 12:56 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
gliderdad79 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
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Loc: Long Island, NY
Any update on this little boy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> My thoughts and prayers that he's alright <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" />
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#24209 - 07/31/04 01:47 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> Oh my, poor little Gizmo! I hope that he got help and is doing better, as best as he can. Self mutilators are so hard to deal with. He's in my thoughts and prayers! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />
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#24210 - 07/31/04 03:43 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Charlie H Offline
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Registered: 11/13/03
Posts: 1659
Loc: Wallis Texas
First get an e collar on Gizmo. Office Max has some clear plastic report covers with material that is about the proper thickness for making e collars.
Second until you can get him to a vet keep the places treated with Neosporene/Pain med.
Third you should put him in a cage by himself. Another glider in the cage with him may irritate the places by grooming them.

Get him to a vet and have a fecal smear and float done. Also have the vet do a check for urinary tract infection. If the tail has been chewed down to the ligaments or bone it may have to be amputated. In case the vet decides amputation is necessary tell him to amputate at a joint and leave enough skin to pull over the end and stitch up. Some vets try to just pull the flesh back over the area and let it scar over but this is not acceptable.

Since the female is not co-operating with him it may be because the female is either too young or too old. Or she could have a problem also. Sexual frustration will at times cause a glider to mutilate. In Gizmo's case I would suggest you consider neutering him. Although frustrating for the glider, he will need to wear the e collar until he is totally healed. This may require you hand feeding him and helping him drink.
Charlie H
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#24211 - 07/31/04 09:54 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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thank you all for your support. we have been looking everywhere for a suteible vet, but we have had no luck. we live in streetsboro ohio, close to cleavland, akron, and youngston..i have also been trying to get in contact with the breeder to see if self mutilization was in his parents at all.. im going to the store now to get Moleskin so i can finish the e coller, it will be on him tonight..

thanks again for any info you guys can give us..

stacey + jason

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#24212 - 07/31/04 10:23 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
gliderdad79 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 15514
Loc: Long Island, NY
There is no real set reason why a glider will mutilate themselves. Its not a hereditary thing, it can happen to any glider. Charlie has given you great advice on what to have your vet do. Here is a link to Ohio vetsthat deal with glider for you to look at and see if you are close to one. Please keep us posted on your little glider.
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#24213 - 07/31/04 10:26 AM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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I know there are other members in your area. TMarie is in Akron. You may want to email or pm her for vet information.

CharlieH and MaryH are 2 of the most knowledgeable people about self mutilation in the glider community. Stay in contact with them - they are gliders' angels and will be a great help! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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#24214 - 07/31/04 01:39 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


i'm here i'm here... is there a phone number i can call you at or stop by.. my vet is amazing.. and we can get in touch with her

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#24215 - 07/31/04 01:42 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


i just pm'ed you with my phone numbers and email address.. please get in touch with me...

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#24216 - 07/31/04 02:32 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


OMG! I just saw this and just wanted to tell you that I'm praying for this little guy. I hope you can get him to vet soon and that he will be alright despite his injuries! Please, please keep us updated!

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#24217 - 07/31/04 02:37 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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i am still waiting to see if i hear from them.. i am working like 5 mi. from streetsboro right now until 7 and can easily stop over as i know that area well....

i wish i had an email or phone to contact them and check on this lil one...

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#24218 - 07/31/04 03:09 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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they just called me and are working on getting him into an ecollar....

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#24219 - 07/31/04 03:10 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Charlie H Offline
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Registered: 11/13/03
Posts: 1659
Loc: Wallis Texas
Have you heard from them Tonia? There is no contact info in their profile, but you probably knew that. Hopefully they will contact you soon.
Charlie H
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#24220 - 07/31/04 03:15 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


lol we must've posted at the same time... they are having issues with the ecollar now... i am unable to get there til 7 tonight (3 hours) so i told them they can call me whenever. i let them know it will probably take two people to get it on him...

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#24221 - 07/31/04 04:09 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Everyone is right, my little Pixie did the same thing and I didn't know enough about gliders at that time to knowt that they will continue to chew until they die <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" />.........please get Gizmo to a vet ASAP (like now) if there is nerve damage they may have to amputate the tail in order to save his life. But, you will need an e-collar to keep him from pulling out the stictches!! Please don't wait gain-green can set in very quickly!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" />
Please continue to let us know how he's doing.
Blessings to you and Gizmo,
Sam <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#24222 - 07/31/04 04:37 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


alright guys, i finally have a update.. we got the e-coller on.. man he is ticked off.. i still don't think that's it's on right though.. here are some pictures, let me know if it looks right..
http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10136/DSC02789-1.JPG

http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10136/DSC02790-1.JPG

http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10136/DSC02787-1.JPG

the biggest problem that we are having now is that he keeps pulling it off..


Edited by FURBYnGIZMO (07/05/07 09:42 PM)
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#24223 - 07/31/04 04:47 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
BMXgirl Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 7078
Loc: USA
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />
Poor little guy... I can imagine wearing an e-collar is no fun and isnt easy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Im glad you got one on him... now hopefully he cant do anymore damage to himself and start to heal. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />
Im sorry I dont know much about how to get one on them and keep it on. Hopefully someone with experience will come in shortly and be able to tell you how to keep it on him. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Best wishes for the little guy...keeping him in my thoughts and prayers.

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#24224 - 07/31/04 04:52 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


well he keeps taking it off... and when she puts it back on she can just slip it on so i told her it may be a little too loose.... so they are gonna try again...

we will do this tho....

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#24225 - 07/31/04 04:56 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


any vet who deals with small animals will do in this situation.
If this is the base of the tail being chewed i strongly urge u to get the vet to run evry test he can for parasitic and bacterial infections.
If the glider is chewing the tail itself from the tip and working down have the vet check the gliders spine for any possible injuries,the tail if there has ever been injury or calcium deficiencies enough to have depleted bones and caused small hair line fractures,there may be a sensation of pins and needles due to the nerves which is causing the glider to do this. ANother less common but still valuable possibility is allergies. When furred animals have allergies summer time is the worse,they can get 'hot spots' which will be irritated stingy and itchy as heck,they animal will chew and dig at it to no avail. If it were this u would need some prednisone prescribed to get that swelling and inflamation down and an anitbiotic cream and/or pills to get things healing and soothed. This sort of thing will appear more radom and be very very red,its more chewing off the fur then nibbling at the skin. Fur on any hot spots would be/should be shaved by the vet so the soothing creams prescribed can take effect better.
The vet will need to actually amputate any portions of the tail with exposure of raw flesh or bone. An inward stitch can be used on the end and some surgical glue to help reduce the risk of a repeat of chewing which is the biggest risk once the tail is fixed.
The animal should also be put on antibiotics if there is any chance or already occurring infection of the area being chewed. The animal will need to be watched closely in hopes of not needing a little collar to prevent any extra chewing and to be sure the animal is stille eating and drinking. The collar is only used if absolutely necassary due to the stress factors they cause the animals.
i can only hope u are able to track down a vet who has delt with small animals.U will be in my prayers tonight,hang in there.
Cynthia

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#24226 - 07/31/04 05:26 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


It looks too big to me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

Call Charlie 979-478-7546 - he can walk you through it. If busy or no answer, keep trying.

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#24227 - 07/31/04 05:27 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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i am praying... i hope that they can get it on... i have emergency vet clinic numbers too so we can get him some help!

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#24228 - 07/31/04 05:30 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Critter Creations Offline
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Registered: 11/02/00
Posts: 3398
Loc: Rock Falls, IL, USA
It is very difficult and frustrating to get the e-collar on to the point that they can not get it back off. The thing is trying and trying again until it is on good. Just when you think you have it on tight enough go a little tighter and that is about where it needs to be. Make sure to watch their nose once it is on to make sure it stays nice and pink and doesn't turn blue. If it turns blue get the e-collar off as it is on too tight. If you need anything you have my phone number as well as I sent it in PM. Don't get too frustrated as everyone goes through this the first few times of getting an e-collar on a glider. Your not alone.
Thank goodness TMarie is close and can physically help and get him to a good vet.
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owned by 4 dogs and 2 gliders really soon
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#24229 - 07/31/04 05:43 PM Re: our gliders chewing his tail off, please help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered


i am heading over there in 15 minutes when I get off of work. i have charlie's number and my vet emergency numbers and am ready to go!

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